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Self-Inflating vs. Closed-Cell Pads
For backpacking do you prefer using a self-inflating sleeping pad or a closed-cell foam one? What kind do you use and why?
wingding0
6:21:09 PM
9/03/01

RE: Self-Inflating vs. Closed-Cell Pads
newcanuckkid
6:46:28 PM
9/03/01

RE: Self-Inflating vs. Closed-Cell Pads
I carry one of each. The closed cell foam is light, but my old bones need the self inflating pad.
bacpac
6:47:09 PM
9/03/01

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newcanuckkid
6:49:36 PM
9/03/01

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I used to carry both the standard Thermarest Long and a closed cell foam pad. Then I got the Thermarest LE (same weight as the standard) and love it. Two inches thick and very comfortable. 2 lbs., 5 ounces. If I had to sleep on a closed cell foam pad or the hard ground, I wouldn't go backpacking.
Phil
6:58:55 PM
9/03/01

RE: Self-Inflating vs. Closed-Cell Pads
Got me a "Big Agnes" Air Core. All air, no foam.
didjfan
7:01:54 PM
9/03/01

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I started carrying a 3/4 Z-rest when my thermarest had a blow out. Oh sure I fixed it, but that was one cold night.
bacpac
7:12:49 PM
9/03/01

RE: Self-Inflating vs. Closed-Cell Pads
The thermarest is the great. Don't leave home without it. Instead of rolling it up to pack on the outside, a couple of years ago I started folding it flat and sticking in my pack next to my back. It doesn't take up much room and is out of the way.
trlhikr
8:59:05 PM
9/03/01

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The last camping trip I went on the friend I went with must of thought I was a real pain in the as$ cause I didn't bring anything--he lent me his blue closed cell foam pad OW! BRRR!

I went to Popular the next day and bought a 3/4 ultralight thermarest, now I use it WITH the soft egg carton foam stuff (throw out after 5-6 trips)

one bad experience is all it takes
Biz
9:00:17 PM
9/03/01

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I like the RidgeRest closed cell because my bag stays on it better than the ThermaRest ultralight long. It's lighter by 10 oz. I cooler weather, I'll stick with the Thermarest.
skiracer
9:03:55 PM
9/03/01

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skiracer, I am slippery whether I use the thermarest or not :P
Biz
9:09:09 PM
9/03/01

RE: Self-Inflating vs. Closed-Cell Pads
The Thermarest LE has a top side that is no-slip. It really works great for keeping the bag on the pad.

Now that I have the Thermarester chair cover, I hope I won't start slipping off again. I'll find out this weekend.
Phil
10:43:35 PM
9/03/01

RE: Self-Inflating vs. Closed-Cell Pads
A 3/4 ultra-lite Thermarest does fine most of the time but when camping on frozen ground or snow I also bring a full RidgeRest to put under it for extra insulation.
pctpacker
11:08:16 PM
9/03/01

RE: Self-Inflating vs. Closed-Cell Pads
Wished I had gotten a closed-cell pad instead of a self-inflating one...now I worry about getting a hole everytime I lie down on it.
stanlee
3:30:42 AM
9/04/01

RE: Self-Inflating vs. Closed-Cell Pads
Two advantages of closed-cell, weight and versatility. I can curl it up to make a seat with a backrest out of two logs. I can place it on a gravel bar to lounge on. Try doing that with self-inflating. Also, it weighs under a lb. (prefer Ridge Rest, it's a little sturdier than the generic blue pad).
RogerKaputnik
6:04:32 AM
9/04/01

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I have the 3/4 length Thermarest Classic. I can't seem to stay on it. The daman thing crawls out from under me.

I have now gone back to my green military pad. Now I will have to find a way to use the green pad with my thermarest chair.
Leatherneck
6:52:44 AM
9/04/01

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check this --
http://www.consumersearch.com/www/sports_and_leisure/sleeping_pads/fullstory.html
The Thermarest seems to be the item of choice, but myself I use a 3/4 pad from Canadian Shield. It is bulky but has taken me through two years with no problems, no noticeable moisture, no cold, and never a sleepless night.
isoursus
6:58:03 AM
9/04/01

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Leatherneck, I used on of those green military pads for years. I think they are better than the blue pads, they 'give' a little more...still uncomfortable though

stanlee, lifes too short to worry (about anything)
Biz
8:56:52 AM
9/04/01

RE: Self-Inflating vs. Closed-Cell Pads
A 3/4 ultra-lite Thermarest pad in the Spring, Summer, and Fall. Both the Thermarest and a full length blue pad in the winter.
Gear Slut
11:28:06 AM
9/04/01

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I must say Gear slut, I am somewhat frieghtened yet, at the same time, strangly attracted to you .
Nigal
11:39:53 AM
9/04/01

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Violin
11:44:12 AM
9/04/01

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I've been using both a full-length ultralight TR and a 3/4 standard with staytek for about three years. Neither has sprung a leak yet and I'm pretty abusive with them. I lay on granite, fold in half to create a backrest against a stumb, etc. But whenever possible, I put a tarp under the sucker to prevent puntures. Also carry a patch kit just in case.
roseymonster
12:34:09 PM
9/04/01

RE: Self-Inflating vs. Closed-Cell Pads
Therma-rest. Comfy, warm pretty light. Lighter than a Posturepedic queen with a pillow top anyway.
tahoe
3:09:48 PM
9/04/01

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Just get your self a nice woman, sleep on top of her.

I don?t use a pad unless the weather is bellow freezing. I like a firm mattress, so the solid ground does not bother me. Before I put up a tent, I remove all rocks and sticks from under the tent. While doing this I make sure that there are no gullies or any other ground formation that may trap water. In cold weather, you can just stuff leaves under your tent. I think I got that idea from Nigal. I think of it like this, if it isn?t a necessity don?t bring it. You can also think like this, Phil?s Thermorest LE weighs 2.5 lbs, my Eureka Gossamer weighs 2.8 lbs, You tell me what is a necessity.
Ice Tea
3:44:38 PM
9/04/01

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Tea -

You are 16 and weigh 106 pounds.

Please check back with us in 10 years and tell us if a pad is a luxury or not.
Violin
3:54:29 PM
9/04/01

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Tea, at 16 you can probably sleep in a tree and it wouldn't bother you.
trlhikr
9:30:46 PM
9/04/01

RE: Self-Inflating vs. Closed-Cell Pads
I use a self-inflating and love it. I heard that the closed-cell pads were good for camping on snow to keep away the cold.
lipstick hiker
9:50:32 PM
9/04/01

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Biz, if my self-inflating gets a leak and I'm forced to sleep on a cold, wet and hard ground, or even worst...snow, I'll be a real SOB the next whole day.
stanlee
9:56:19 PM
9/04/01

RE: Self-Inflating vs. Closed-Cell Pads
i had used a ridgerest pad for years and was relatively satisfied with the comfort factor, but hated rolling it up and lashing it to the outside of my pack....i recently switched to a full length thermarest ultralight and i will never look back....very comfortable, lightweight, and most importantly (to me) it rolls up compactly enough to stick inside my pack....
gonzo
10:13:19 PM
9/04/01

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