Sky High Gasoline

“Justin whatever you power a vehicle with that can do all that will require quite a bit of energy. I think it can be done but it will still require more robust engines and drivetrains than a car. If I buy a hybrid it's gonna be for transporting me mainly. I have a Ford pick-up with a big thirsty V-8 (17 MPG)to haul my boats and such and a Chevy Atro Van(19 MPG) for hauling 7 people and gear. At least 90% of my driving is just me and less than 50 pounds of other stuff. I'd spend $12,000 to buy the Honda(60 MPG) just to have it as a commuter car and toy.”

“they need to develop some hybrids that having towing power, decent ground clearance, 4wd, and enough room for 4 adults plus gear.

Four horses could meet these requirements.”

“Between terrorists trying to attack oil facilities now and the potential crisis coming with Iran, that car is likely to be in high demand if oil prices go to $100 per barrel like some people in the news are projecting. That's probably close to a worst case scenerio, but with the Middle East we all know how tense it is over there and anything can happen.”

“has gas in your area shot up in the last 3-4 weeks. It went from 2.10 to 2.49 a gallon here in 3 weeks.”

“Yup, same here in the Seattle area. $3 again this summer on the news.”

“Same here. It went up from $2.43 to $2.61 in about a week and a half.”

“Yeah...and last year after the hurricane we were told to expect $5.00 per gallon by Janua...ooops what happened..the media was WRONG????
It is called SUPPLY AND DEMAND. Right now we have spring break on the east coast. Gonna shoot up the price as the demand goes up.”

“This thread is so pathetic.

Let's rename it to the Whiners Gasoline thread.”

“XL, The Spring Break thing is a joke. The oil companies always raise gas right before holidays, vacation time, etc. Yet the price of oil per barrel has dropped, the US has extra oil in storage, winter is almost over and OPEC has cut production.”

“Would an additional one dollar per gallon federal tax on oil products be enough to balance this years budget?

Lets see, 1.2 billion gallons of oil products used per day in the US times 365 days = $438 billion, close to enough. The deficit is large.”

“Spring break? Holy sh_t!! Thanks for the laugh! If you were talking about the rising price of condoms, that might make sense!!!!”

“" There's nothing as much fun as 340 horses"”

“Where, XL did "the media" predict 5 dollar/gallon gas?”

“XL - it's not supply and demand though. The fuel business operates a cartel. The only competition exists at the franchise level, certainly not at the corporate level or the customer level. Big Oil has successfully insulated itself from competition at the pumps, insulates itself and indeed profits from increases in the cost of crude, and simply competes on lowering it's own bottom lines. Savings are not passed through to consumers.”

“"Savings are not passed through to consumers."

Yes, its more like we get run through when they decide its time we get our periodic buggering.
last edited: 3/21/06 1:04:38 PM”

“I mean, how many other businesses can you think of where the producers benefit to the tune of billions when the cost of raw materials increases?”

“They've got us over a barrel”

“I heard it went up because the wife of Amoco's CEO is celebrating a birthday next week.”

“I'm saving about $10-15 a tankful now that I got rid of the Jeep. The PT Cruiser needs atune up BAD ($300 though so it's gonna wait a while). I'm getting about 20MPG out of it. :(”

“Do tissues come with this thread?”

“The cavalry of gas prices is coming in the form of Iraqi oil--It'll take a couple of decades.”

“I a normally the last one who discusses politics in public, i am not even sure if this is an actual fact but I thought it was worth posting and discussing....

Cindy Sheehan & Chavez
Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

Venezuela government is sole owner of Citgo gasoline company

Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to bring down the U.S. government.
Chavez, president of Venezuela, told a TV audience: "Enough of imperialist aggression;
we must tell the world: down with the U.S. empire. We have to bury imperialism this century."

The guest on his television program, beamed across Venezuela, was Cindy Sheehan,
the antiwar activist. Chavez recently had as his guest Harry Belafonte, who called
President Bush "the greatest terrorist in the world."

Chavez is pushing a socialist revolution and has a close alliance with Cuban
dictator Fidel Castro.

Regardless of your feelings about the war in Iraq, the issue here is that we have
a socialist dictator vowing to bring down the government of the U.S. And he is
using our money to achieve his goal!

The Venezuela government, run by dictator Chavez, sole owner of Citgo gas co.
Sales of products at Citgo stations send money back to Chavez to help him in his vow
to bring down our government.

Take Action

Please decide that you will not be shopping at a Citgo station. Why should U.S.
citizens who love freedom be financing a dictator who has vowed to take
down our government?”

“Where'd you find this story?”

“Home Depot has started selling gas in my area. Last week when everyone else including Wal Mart was at 2.55 a gallon Home depot was at 2.39 a gallon. Needless to say they were backed up with cars”

“Gas is cheep in your area Ewker. I felt lucky that I found a gas station yesterday with gas for $2.80.”

“2.62 this morning”

“I got in an email from my trainer. I did however search for it, and US today has an article on it too.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/2006-01-11-citgo-cover-usat_x.htm”

“I always wondered...if we doubled the refining capacity and threatened to open ANWR...what would happen to the price of fuel. The truth is we have reduced refining capacity (limited supply)and we are relying on fuel for things that could be solved with other power sources.”

“lumberzac, that was a week ago. I haven't driven by Home Depot since then but at the reg gas stations it is 2.70 now. Still cheaper than what you are paying”

“Opening up of ANWR would have little-to-no impact on the price of oil.

What's causing the recent several dollar price rise is fear.

Problems in Nigeria, Nuclear standoff with Iran, problems with Cheavez. This is building up prices already held at a high level by the high demand around the world.

Basically traders think that there's not much more capacity in the system. You take out one of the players, say Nigeria or Venezuella, or especially Iran, then you've got oil perhaps hitting $100 a barrel and what, $4 or $5 gas.”

“So, boycott Chavez and Citgo and support humanitarians like.........

Saudi Arabia?????”

“I say we go back to using whale oil. jk
8D”

“LOL!”

“Don't forget Iran, Nigeria and Russia TB!”

“Advocating a boycott of gasoline marketed by Citgo Petroleum Corporation (which has been owned by Petróleos de Venezuela, the national oil company of Venezuela, since 1990) over political issues is problematic for a number of reasons (not least of which is the notion that threatening not to buy gasoline from someone who is threatening not to sell it to you doesn't sound like an effective ploy for either side). For one thing, although Citgo may be owned by Petróleos de Venezuela, it is a formerly American company which is still headquartered in the U.S. (in Houston, Texas), employs 4,000 people, and supplies 14,000 independent retailers with gasoline and other petroleum products — Americans with no substantive connnection to Venezuela who would be economically harmed by such an action. And, of course, as long as the global demand for oil exceeds supply, Citgo's products will continue to find buyers whether or not they're purchased by Americans.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/citgo.asp”

“"If you want to reduce our dependence on foreign oil and therefore improve our national security situation, you can't do it if you're a republican because you are too wedded to the oil companies.

We have two oilmen in the white house. the logical follow-up from that is $3 a gallon gasoline. there is no accident. It is a cause and effect. A cause and effect.

How dare the president of the united states make a speech today in april many, many, many months after the american people have had to undergo the cost of home heating oil? A woman told me she almost fainted when she received her home heating bill over this winter. And when so many people making the minimum wage, which hasn't been raised in eight years, which has a very low purchasing power, have to go out and buy gasoline at these prices?

Where have you been, mr. president? The middle class squeeze is on, competition in our country is effected by the price of energy and of oil and all of a sudden you take a trip outside of washington, see the fact that the public is outraged about this, come home and make a speech. Let's see that matched in your budget, let's see that matched in your policy.

You're separating yourself from your patron, big oil, cut yourself off from that anvil holding your party down and this country down. Instead of coming to washington and throwing your republican colleagues under the wheels of the train, which they mightily deserve for being a rubber stamp for your obscene, corrupt policy of ripping off the american people."

- House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi
last edited: 4/26/06 9:28:01 AM”

“She's not one of my favorites, but I think I'll send her a dozen roses for that one.”

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“Just keep telling yourself that high gas prices are a good thing. The better to see renewables with, my dear.”

“i hate it when gas prices drop so much. it just means more pollution

bush wants the prices to drop because he likes global warming

we need to insist on higher prices to save our mother

she is crying because of lower gas prices

I am the earth. You are the earth. The Earth is dying. You and I are murderers. ~Ymber Delecto”

“i heard the next town over (greentown) is down to 2.41. the town where i work (frankfort) was 2.46 last time i saw. town i live in (kokomo) is 2.56 or thereabouts”

“The KOSkids and DUmmies are claiming dropping gas prices is a Repub plot to fool voters into voting Repub.
LOL”

“Moon..according to the Ruskies...we are getting ready to hit a global Cooling period...I SAY DRIVE MORE< OPEN UP THOSE CANISTERS OF R-11 .”

“He is so stupid. btw- was gas projected to hit $4 in all 57 states or just some?”

“Half of all Americans have a below-average income. Liberals throw hissy fit.”

“Half have below median income.
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“The not so funny thing is that gas is at $4 because of your democrat congress V. Thanks a lot for that btw.”

“Do a search on 'oil' and 'Michael Greenberger'.”

“Like things have been going GREAT with your guys in charge --- ROF

How many lives have been wasted looking for those Dubya-MDs?   How many trillions of those hard-earned tax dollars you're always complaining about?  good grief.”