Sky High Gasoline

“Some times I miss my old truck. It had a 30gal tank on it and when I was in college I only had to fill it up once a month.”

“"Coucou!
Alors pourquoi le nom "LaBastille" name?? Es-tu alle en France pour etre un "fan" de ce monument?!?!
Sinon, d'ou es-tu, qu'est que tu fais et est-ce que au moins tu parles Francais??? Es-tu deja alle en France???"
shep0987
07:26:23 PM
04/15/04

Je ne suis pas folle. I am a fan of an environmentalist (LaBastille). I have never been to France, but the building they call the LaBastille is a place where they put crazy people and political prisoners. They let them out on July 14 for the revolution. The French people still celebrate this day as their (revolution) independance day. (i have several friends who speak French, as well as several other languages here at work) who were kind enough to translate your message :) i only know the swear words! encule trau de cous (i'm not sure of the spelling though.)”

“I miss my Festive (Wrecked it last month). It got 52 miles to the gallon. My Toyota gets aboput 30.

Got another Festiva lined up, now if I can get the $500.00!!”

“My roommate in college had a Festiva. During hurricane Bertha it went rolling end over end down our street, and it wasn't even damaged all that bad! the insurance company had it repaired instead of just giving him money for a new car.”

“Between that car and that dog Dub I bet you get all the guys dontcha? LOL! This coming from a scooter rider so don't get pissed.

I paid $1.89 this week but I don't get pissed. It was only $2 more total than last week. I don't know why people bltch so much when it jumps a dime or two. We still have some of the cheepest gas in the world.

The thing that pisses me off is when something conveniently happens that makes proces spike JUST in time for the three day weekend holidays when they know everyone will be traveling. Phuckers...”

“I think it happens everywhere...prices go up around Thurs. nite and come down Monday or Tuesday.”

“The fix is already in according to Bob Woodward (60 Minutes). Bush and the Saudis have a plan to reduce oil prices right before the election to ensure Bush gets re-elected.”

“Better break out the tin foil hat USA.”

“WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The White House and a top Saudi official denied Monday a report of a deal to lower gasoline prices before the November presidential election.

The Bush administration did say it has received assurances from Saudi Arabia that oil prices will stay in the range of $22 to $28 per barrel, but said the recent discussions have nothing to do with presidential politics.

"There was no secret deal," White House spokesman Dan Bartlett told CNN.

And a top Saudi official denied his country is taking any action to affect oil prices for political purposes.

"The allegation that the kingdom is manipulating the price of oil for political purposes or to affect elections is erroneous and has no basis in fact," Saudi Foreign Policy Adviser Adel al-Jubeir said in a statement.

Record-high gasoline prices have become a hot issue in the presidential race.

Journalist Bob Woodward described a pact on oil prices between Bush and Saudi ambassador Prince Bandar bin Sultan. Woodward discussed the alleged deal during an interview Sunday on CBS' "60 Minutes" where he talked about his new book on Bush.

The White House initially did not respond directly to the charges of an election deal, saying only that the administration had talked with Saudi officials about oil prices

In a morning briefing with reporters, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Saudi Arabia recently "committed to making sure prices remained in a range of, I believe, $22 to $28" per barrel.

"They don't want to do anything that would harm our consumers or harm our economy," McClellan said.

Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. John Kerry, at a campaign stop in Florida, said the deal reported by Woodward -- if true -- is "outrageous and unacceptable to the American people."

Woodward, in the interview about his new book, said Bandar, a long-time Bush family friend, pledged that "over the summer, or as we get closer to the election, they could increase production several million barrels a day and the price would drop significantly."

McClellan, grilled on the topic during the briefing with reporters Monday, said, "Prices should be determined by market forces, and we are always in close contact with producers around the world on these issues."

Al-Jubeir initially released a statement saying that for 30 years, his country's policy has been "to maintain balance in the oil markets to avoid disruptions or shortages."

He added, "The promise we make to consumers ... is that supply will be adequate, and prices will remain at moderate levels acceptable to both producers and consumers. And that promise is consistent, and independent of who is in power within consuming countries, including the U.S."

Later, al-Jubeir sent out a new version of the statement, adding the sentence directly denying the allegation.

Kerry, who has long attacked Bush for what he calls close ties to big oil and failure to reduce U.S. dependence on Middle East oil, pounced on Woodward's comments during a campaign stop in Florida.

"If, as Bob Woodward reports, it is true that gas supplies and prices in America are tied to the American election, then tied to a secret White House deal, that is outrageous and unacceptable to the American people," he told voters in Lake Worth, Florida.

"It is fundamentally wrong," he added. "It's my prayer that Americans are not being held hostage to a secret deal."

Kerry said his plan to lower gasoline prices begins with pressuring Saudi Arabia to increase production, thereby lowering prices to Americans -- and not tying such a move to an election.

He touted his energy policy, saying, "Unlike George Bush and his friends at the big oil companies, I'm going to work for a real energy policy for this country that decreases America's dependence on foreign oil and helps lower the cost to American families."

Current gasoline prices, he said, "aren't Exxon gas prices. ... Those are Halliburton prices. And we deserve a break in this country."

Halliburton is the oil-services company that Vice President Dick Cheney headed before returning to public office, and the Texas-based company has received lucrative contracts for reconstruction work in Iraq.

Earlier this month, Bandar said publicly that his country wants to stabilize world oil prices because of the effect a price spike might have on economies around the world, including Saudi Arabia. He did not link the effort to the U.S. election.”

“As 'October Surprises' go, that would be pretty tame. Still.... wouldn't it be interesting if Saudi production just happened to rise then?”

“QUESTION: Can you describe conversations between the White House and Prince Bandar about his essential promise to lower oil prices before the election?
MR. McCLELLAN: I think you heard from Prince Bandar a few weeks ago about --

QUESTION: He didn’t talk specifically about the election.

MR. McCLELLAN: -- the most recent conversation that we had with him regarding oil prices. And he expressed his views out at the stakeout to you all that Saudi Arabia is committed to making sure prices remained in a range, I believe it’s $22 to $28 price per barrel of oil, and that they don’t want to do anything that would harm our consumers or harm our economy. So he made those comments at the stakeout and we’ve made our views very clear that prices should be determined by market forces, and that we are always in close contact with producers around the world on these issues to make sure that actions aren’t taken that harm our consumers or harm our economy.

QUESTION: There were no conversations specifically about the President’s reelection?

MR. McCLELLAN: You can ask Prince Bandar to --

QUESTION: But from the point -- I mean, conversations are obviously two ways.

MR. McCLELLAN: -- what his comments were. But the conversations we have are related to our long-held views that we have stated repeatedly publicly, that market forces should determine prices.

QUESTION: To follow up on that then, I would gather that the White House view is one of expectation that the Saudis would increase oil production between now and November.

MR. McCLELLAN: Our views are very well-known to Saudi Arabia. Prince Bandar made a commitment at the stakeout that I will let speak for itself. You all should look back to those remarks.

QUESTION: We’re missing the allegation here, which is that Prince Bandar and the Saudis have made a commitment to lower oil prices to help the President politically. Is that your --

MR. McCLELLAN: I’m not going to speak for Prince Bandar. You can direct those comments to him. I can tell you that what our views are and what he said at the stakeout is what we know his views are, as well.

QUESTION: Does the White House have any knowledge of such a commitment?

MR. McCLELLAN: I’m sorry?

QUESTION: Does the White House have any knowledge of such a commitment?

MR. McCLELLAN: Again, I’m not going to speak for Prince Bandar. You can direct those questions --

QUESTION: Is there a deal?

MR. McCLELLAN: -- I wouldn’t speculate one way or the other. You can direct those questions to him, but I’m telling you --

QUESTION: I’m not asking you to speculate either. Do you have knowledge of such a commitment?

MR. McCLELLAN: I’m telling you what our views are and what we've stated, and I'm telling you what I do know, which is that our position is very clear when it comes to oil prices and what our views are. And Prince Bandar spoke to you all just a few weeks ago out at the stakeout after meeting with some White House officials and expressed --

QUESTION: So you have no knowledge of such a commitment?

MR. McCLELLAN: -- and expressed their view. I'm not going to try to speak for Prince Bandar. You can direct those questions to him.

QUESTION: The President is confident that the American elections are not being manipulated by the world's largest oil producer?

MR. McCLELLAN: Our view is that the markets should determine --

QUESTION: The market doesn't. It's a cartel.

MR. McCLELLAN: But our view is that that's what -- that the markets should determine prices. And that's the view we make very clear to producers around the world, including our friends in OPEC.”

“so if gas prices will come down in october and voting machines don't have a paper trail, and Bush plants WMD, and another terrorist attack happens in the US,and the minimum wage goes up, and the draft is avoided until after election day, Shrub will win the election by a landslide.”

“Gas prices will come down in late Sept. early Oct. regardless of what the Saudis do, they could pump all the oil they want right now, it would make a very slight difference (a few cents a gallon). The problem isn't supply of crude oil, there's tons of supply, the problem is there's not much gasoline.”

“Don't gas prices pretty much come down in late Sept. early Oct. every year? It’s past the summer tourist season so the demand goes down, as people aren’t traveling as much or as far.”

“(AP) The price of oil is likely to remain high in coming months and could rise further, analysts say, due to ravenous global demand and petroleum producers' reluctance to boost supplies.

Recent security problems in Saudi Arabia and Iraq have also inflamed markets. On Tuesday, prices for oil futures surged on London's International Petroleum Exchange, following Monday's run-up on the New York Mercantile Exchange, where oil futures hit a 13-year high.

The average price of regular unleaded gasoline in the United States is $1.84 per gallon, according to the Energy Department, and analysts say the cost could rise as high as $3 per gallon in some regional markets.

On Tuesday, contracts of North Sea Brent crude for June delivery soared by $1.30 to $35.78 per barrel in late trading in London. Markets rose after the U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia, the world's No. 1 oil exporter, advised Americans to leave the country following the killings of five foreign workers at a petrochemical plant there.

In the United States, June contracts of light, sweet crude jumped 69 cents to $38.90 in afternoon trading.


A week ago $1.99, over the weekend it jumped to $2.13

What is Bush doing?”

“Today was the first time I saw it over $2 per gallon locally.”

“Just before Memorial weekend hits it's really go go up.

I realize that supplies are low, this happens every year. For a token salary (20 k should to be about right), I would gladly work for the oil companies and help them predict when usage will go up...LIKE EVERY SUMMER.”

“Duh. Bush is doing it for the "environment". High gas prices means less oil consumed which means less air pollution and less extraction. Also, higher gas prices means people will start considering more gas-efficient vehicles and speed up the process of getting cleaner and cheaper alternative fuels to the market.”

“There is something kinda twisted though....

we pay more for water then gas.

Thats just wrong.”

“"There is something kinda twisted though....

we pay more for water then gas.

Thats just wrong."

I'm personally tired of hearing that phrase. We also don't buy 20 gallons of water at a time.”

“How about this one...gas is $5.85 a gallon in England.”

“I would just have to stay home or walk! Lol! I really couldn't afford that! $1.72 here is killing my pocket!”

“i dont think it bothers me all that much to pay $1.78 here in atlanta....i mean i spend alot more on alot of other things every week so....”

“Well, actually it's only about $5.35 in England. It's $5.85 in one of the Scandinavian country's.

It's about $2.25 in Redding.”

“As if high gas prices wernt enuff,here in MD they are trying to pass a law to create toll lanes. So if you want to drive in the less congested fast lane youll have to pay.”

“Why doesn't someone just invent human teleporting? It's fast and free. And we could go to the North Pole on our lunch hour.”

“How do you feel about having to buy bottled air?

Vote Republican!”

“THE price of gas doesn't just effect your cost of travelling, ..... the price of moving FOOD, and other commodities will also rise..... God gave you a brain.... Use it. Vote Democrat!”

“The gas prices I saw predicted by Mutt on this board played a huge roll in me getting rid on my gas hog van, and buying a 4 banger, 38 MPG car.

Thanks be to Mutt. I now pay 25% of what I used to, for the same amount of travel.


This summer, we'll se those SUV's going at bargin rates”

“Why would you base an economic decision on anything that mutt posted?

He may be a warm and likable guy, but he sucks as a prognosticator.”

“$2 a gallon in upstate now.”

“I bought a dual sport motor cycle to buzz around town and back and forth to work. 50+ MPG.”

“"Why would you base an economic decision on anything that mutt posted?........"

because his prediction is coming true.”

“Mutt's a warm and likable guy?

Violin, get off the sauce, man. It's a work day.”

“I'm looking at hybrids for my next car. I'm not really exited about them though. They don't seem to be performers but I won't know until I drive one.

If it isn't fun to drive then I'm back to plan A- Subaru Forester turbo.”

“HPM - last month, I got to see a Honda Hybred up close. No difference in body style, to space - save the trunk is a little smaller. I was very impressed, but it was outta my price range.”

“Gas is $2.12 (regular) in my neighborhood today.

HPM recently bought a Subaru Legacy, cheaper than the Forrester and more room for gear. No turbo but decent ride. Always find I'm driving faster than I think. That's why I have to use the cruise on the highway. Gas mileage is so-so. 21/30”

“A barrel of oil just jumped to $40.00...we are going to see at least $2.50 or higher in the next couple months.”

“and Vi was wondering why I followed Mutt's advice.



Silly boy. ;)”

“Treebaits Aunt had one of the early two seater Honda electics. No way would I get one of those. She then got a Toyota Prius. Nice but still not my cup o tea.
I'm eyeing the Toyota Highlander hybrid but I like smaller more nimble vehicles.”

“Out here in WA, in South King County gas has jumped about 10 cents a gallon in the last week alone. Even cheap AM/PM gas is $2.07, everywhere else it is $2.14-2.26 for regular.

And we drive 2 SUV's. Ouch.

Thank god my main hiking partner has a 4 cyl Honda.......We only take mine now if it is many miles on FS roads or we have 3 or more people.”

“ahh well atlanta just got its record high prices...i saw last night it was 1.75 for regular 1.86 for premium and 1.96 for super...this morning all had risen ten cents...thats a first for the state of georgia i do believe...”

“West Coast gas is now the most expensive in the nation.
Tim Hamilton is a petroleum industry consultant who works for consumer groups.

"If you think this year's bad, wait until next year," Hamilton said.



http://www.kirotv.com/consumer/3281433/detail.html”

“Gas in Charlotte is 1.74 for regular test...and ten cents up for each step in grade. I think I will be hiking closer to home and buying less gear..”

“"West Coast gas is now the most expensive in the nation.
Tim Hamilton is a petroleum industry consultant who works for consumer groups.

"If you think this year's bad, wait until next year," Hamilton said.



http://www.kirotv.com/consumer/3281433/detail.html"
USA
10:07:01 PM















WOW WHAT A PSYCHIC!!!! how could you possibly predict that gas prices will continue to rise?? does he have an inside track....man if so let me in on that one...i would have nevera guessed that one....i better bottle all that i can now while its cheap...”

“Vote, for crying out loud! These guys are oil men, duh!”

“I was just in my local Fleet Farm today...and I noticed that the price I've been paying for a case of motor oil has not gone up in over 2 years. Same thing when I checked a case of Castrol at Wally world. Yet gas goes up. Oh well.... I drive a car, I pay the price”

“When I return to Florida, all travel will be on my bicycle, unless I have to go somewhere out of town on the highway. I'm even considering selling the car and using rentals, whenever I need a vehicle.”

“screw that nowslimmer...you could never do thta tin ATL”

“Burn that gas and haul some ass!”