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What a CROCK!
Television evangelists Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, two of the most prominent voices of the religious right, said liberal civil liberties groups, feminists, homosexuals and abortion rights supporters bear responsibility for Tuesday's terrorist attacks because their actions have turned God's anger against America.

Read all about it!
kleetn
10:14:05 AM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
Jerry: why is this elevater getting so warm?

Pat: hmm.... and it feels like we're going down!
radagast
10:16:31 AM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
Oh brother, not THOSE guys again!
Buddha Bear
10:19:28 AM
9/14/01

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Don't forget the killer bees, there all in it together.
humanpackmule
10:22:39 AM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
Says Falwell-
"God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve"

"I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.'"


It is now more clear than ever that these people are lunatics!

I'm skeert! =:0
AmyG
10:24:50 AM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
"When a nation deserts God and expels God from the culture . . . the result is not good."

Just what we need...MORE f#cked up "god" lunatics. Excuse me, but isn't this whole thing fundamentally based on RELIGION?!?
AmyG
10:27:26 AM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!


weeeeee
AmyG
10:29:25 AM
9/14/01

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Religion is a pretty dangerous thing, and, it seems, a catylst for violence in all parts of the world.
Buddha Bear
10:30:14 AM
9/14/01

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Religion is not bad.
Pathalogical fanaticsim is bad.
humanpackmule
10:30:18 AM
9/14/01

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How incredibly insecure these men (Fawell & Robertson) must be to vomit forth these hateful and inconsiderate remarks. Such vile men, they are no better than the cowards who excuted this horrible tragedy.
Machimoodus
10:33:16 AM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
They are just offline Trolls.
humanpackmule
10:40:19 AM
9/14/01

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A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. These guys are fanatics.
kleetn
10:50:55 AM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: IT'S THEM! THEY are the cause of all the world's problems!
The-Naviguesser
10:52:11 AM
9/14/01

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OK.
Correction:
They are just Pathological Fanatic offline Trolls.
humanpackmule
10:53:23 AM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
Those two are nothin' but snake oil salesmen.

Hucksters

Carnies in expensive suits

White Trash Rabble Rousers....with their own TV empires!
And PLENTY of sheep following them!

Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dumb

Falwell Blows Goats......
I have proof!

Tom Terrific
11:01:18 AM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
TT, please don't post the visual evidence. I believe you.
humanpackmule
11:04:50 AM
9/14/01

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Extreme conservative Christians like Jerry give Christians in general a bad name. God is not against us. And terroist attacks have nothing to do with America's society. I wish that thos extreme people would keep thier extreme opinions to themselves.

God loves everybody, no matter what they do. He does not punish innocent people by terroist attacks, because a nation does not follow him. God loves us all he hates sin, but he will not punish us for our sins until we stand before him in Heaven.

HMMM I wonder if im going to get yelled at for this one????
adventuregirl
11:13:29 AM
9/14/01

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I won't yell at you.
I agree with you.
humanpackmule
11:17:00 AM
9/14/01

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Pur-eeech it, sister!!!
Amen!!!
Tom Terrific
11:18:58 AM
9/14/01

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Great picture Amy!!! LOL!

It is awful to see these creeps use this tragedy to direct anger and blame at their political enemies. Still, Machimodus goes way too far in saying that they are as vile as the terrorists. To say something like that is to miss a huge point.
PedXing
11:37:12 AM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
Nice to see Jerry and Pat spout the Taliban line. The truth will out. So, using Dubya's plan to attack not just terrorists, but to visit retribution on the heads of those who shelter and facilitate them -- and recognizing that right-wing "Christian" extremists have engaged in domestic terrorism and recieved verbal if not financial support from folks such as Jerry and Pat -- then I predict, if we can be fair and level-headed, that a Delta Force unit will be paying a call on the 700 Club for a bit of laser-sighted reality TV.
pekka
11:41:18 AM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
I see their remarks as more cynical pandering for dollars from the lost and misguided.

Perhaps it's more than that and they really beleive some of their own bullsh!t, but their fundamentalist "star" has fallen a lot since the rabid 1980s and they're desperate to stir the pot and squeeze more mites from the ignorant.
steve hiker
11:41:49 AM
9/14/01

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Won't someone PLEASE help Jerry's Kids!!!
Tom Terrific
11:45:11 AM
9/14/01

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And if anyone will be "going to hell," it will be people like these two.
steve hiker
11:45:19 AM
9/14/01

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If they spout it, and DON'T believe it, hoping to get others to act on it, doesn't that make them, in some way, worse than those who at least are truly (if blindly) committed to a vile idea? The word "venal" comes to mind ... truly "corrupt" men who spur on the fanatics.
pekka
11:49:08 AM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
I makes me sad, that's all.
newgirl
11:50:32 AM
9/14/01

RE: Sticking up for Jerry & Pat!
Did God die and leave you guys to make up the rules? Their views and mine are based on an ancient, historically and archeologically reliable document, the Holy Bible.

Jerry & Pat may be goofy old dorks, but they didn't pull their views out of their butts. What credibility does your view have? Did you get it from Peter Jennings, Oprah, Jerry Springer, MTV?

Who's really open minded?
toejam
12:00:19 PM
9/14/01

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What would be truly sad is to believe that God died and left Falwell and Robertson in charge.
kleetn
12:08:43 PM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
Everyone is a different person and entitled to their own opinion and this is why opinions always have and always will differ. This is why we should always try to respect the opinions of others even if they differ from our own.
Let me say up front that I am not slamming any of you guys nor will I. You are posting your opinions and I do respect the fact that they are your views and you feel strongly about them.
MY opinion is, that their all of their comments don?t really sound like crock to me. I don?t know that much about Mr. Robertson or Mr. Falwell because I don?t watch their show and don?t know what all was said (the article didn?t appear to be an entire transcript of the show). If I did it would be my responsibility to verify that what they were saying was scriptural, by reading and studying the Bible and praying for an understanding of God?s Word. I am far from being an expert on the Bible and never claim to be an expert. But I firmly believe that the Bible teaches that He will not bless a nation that turns it?s back on him or refuses to follow his commandments either.
I don?t know why God allows things to happen (this may have happened for an entirely different reason than they stated) but I know He knows and that is good enough for me. If the ones listed are the reason it was allowed to happen, it is probably a lot shorter than it should be. Maybe some should even be taken off? ( I don?t know much about some of the ones listed) I feel that Christians can be probably added to it also, WE fall very short of the commands given to us to minister to the world by: sharing our faith, living moral lives, setting examples for others, etc. (We sure are not doing a very good job)
I do know we should be praying for God?s blessing for our country and leaders right now because we are going through a terrible tragedy and it doesn?t look like it?s going to be a quick fix either.

Just giving my opinion, I certainly don?t expect everyone to agree with me and I definitely am not trying to force my belief on anyone either. I?m not trying to get into a ?religion? argument and I do apologize if I have offended anyone.
rabbitman
12:34:56 PM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
Please don't judge all fundamentalist Christians by these two. Listen to Rev. Billy Graham's sermon this noon instead and judge us by that.
Joy
12:46:09 PM
9/14/01

The answer found!
we don't need 4,000 FBI agents to know who is responsible. Falwell just told us.

The Purple Tele-Tubby is the mastermind!

I can sleep better at night now that the Right Reverend Jerry Falwell revealed the truth.

BTW -- I do not consider falwell and his ilk to be Christians. He does not preach nor practice the basic principles of Christianity.
gordon
1:49:38 PM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
Gordon and Joy, I agree with you both.

Graham is incredible, especially in person. Very personable, very sincere, and very much on target.
TownDawg
1:52:41 PM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
Are those two bozos preaching the word of god?
Sez who?
They are both smiling jackals and steal money from misguided and lonely old ladies and others.

Recently Falwell said that, "....the anti-christ walks among us and he is a jew...."

This is more of the same rabble-rousing horsesh!t intended to divide and conquer America.

Do I get my "opinions" from Oprah or Jerry Springer???
NO!!!
I do my own reasoning based on sensory perception.
I do not pay attention to ANY of those hucksters be they wacked-out fundies or television "personalities".

AmyG-
I think ya hooked a couple of suckers.
Happy trolling!

Tom Terrific
1:54:35 PM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
sick
tarabull
2:26:52 PM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
America IS secular and has been all along.
It is thus that we enjoy our freedom OF and freedom FROM religion.
Its freaks like Falwell and Robertson who are trying to theocratize it.
Tom Terrific
2:33:07 PM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
Tom: I got no argument with you on Falwell and Robertson.. Graham is not in that gene pool though. Don't think you are implying it, but just making that clear.
TownDawg
2:39:54 PM
9/14/01

RE: What a CROCK!
What nerve these two idiots have to speak for God!
lipstick hiker
2:42:56 PM
9/14/01

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What I continue to see is folks riding the fence between honest concern and dishonest hope of gain/attention.
TownDawg
2:45:44 PM
9/14/01

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Yeah, Graham seems like a nice old dude.
He doesn't seem to be inbred or greedy like THOSE two twinkies.
Tom Terrific
2:47:36 PM
9/14/01

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A parable...

"Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a religious leader and the other a tax-gatherer.

The proud religious leader stood by himself and prayed this prayer: 'I thank you, God, that I am not a sinner like everyone else, especially like that tax-collector over there! For I never cheat, I don't sin, I don't commit adultery, I fast twice a week, and I give a tenth of my income.'

But the tax collector stood at a distance and dared not even lift his eyes to heaven as he prayed. Instead, he beat his chest in sorrow, saying, 'O God, be merciful to me, for I am a sinner.'

Jesus said, "I tell you, this sinner, not the religious leader, returned home justified before God. "
tekapo
2:11:54 AM
9/15/01

RE: What a CROCK!
With my own problems, my heart weighs on the words of Paul the Apostle:

"O wretched man that I am, who will set me free from this body of death?"
tekapo
2:16:53 AM
9/15/01

RE: What a CROCK!
I agree that these guys say some stupid things, but to compare them to the people that did the acts is worse than what you are accusing them of.
wjgiles
9:29:09 AM
9/15/01

RE: What a CROCK!
They seek nothing less, wigiles: an intolerent, rigid theocracy which would embody their own distorted social order, with them at the top, of course.
pekka
9:38:38 AM
9/15/01

RE: What a CROCK!
I have to agree with pekka that there are Christians who are extremist, but Christian campaigns against the infidels have changed. We used to send crusades to take back the Holy Land. Now we market the Gospel.

The vast majority of Christians, like the vast majority of Muslims, are not extremists. I thank God for that. I would like to see the extremist Muslims move beyond the ancient tribalism of the region, before they blow us all up.
Pathman
9:48:33 AM
9/15/01

RE: What a CROCK!
I read somewhere;
We just have enough religion to hate one another, but we don't have enough religion to love one another.
How true. Forgot who wrote it.
stanlee
10:33:54 PM
9/15/01

RE: What a CROCK!
"And terroist attacks have nothing to do with America's society -adventuregirl

So are you saying it's just unfortunate coincidence that the US was picked out for attacks by terrorists?
Spock
11:12:02 PM
9/16/01

RE: What a CROCK!
Anyone ever watch Dr.Jack Van Impe and his interpratations of current events and how he relates them to prophecies of the Bible. He preaches that armageddon is occurring as we speak, and he cites numerous bible verses within each sentence to support his views.

I've dug watching tele-evangelists ever since I came home sloshed one night, turned on the TV and there was Rev Tilton asking his viewers for $1000.oo donations. That's right...$1000 bucks, not just what they could spare.

There's nothing more intreguing than him spouting off his interpretative prohpecies and then when done hearing his wife Roxella say, in a "dumb-blond" voice Praaaiiissse The Lord, Jack!

Here's a good Middle East invasion map of what the Bible says will happen soon...as interpreted by Rev. Impe himself.
Buddur
1:29:13 PM
9/17/01

RE: What a CROCK!
What a hoot that map and it's "interpretations" are! A few examples from the legend:

Karakoram Highway: Described as a "Superhighway" by Tilton, the road surfaces vary immensely over very short distances, from newly laid to worn smooth and potholes or patched, gravel, washboard, or compacted mud and rocks.

Sheba and Dedan: Described as "Non-aligned Arab nations" by Tilton. Mebbe Sheba is actually Madonna and Dedan is rilly Ricky Martin!

Tarshish and the young lions: Described as "Great Britain, the U.S., Canada and Australia." Eeeeyeah. Or Chile, Botswana and Greenland?
kleetn
1:54:55 PM
9/17/01

RE: What a CROCK!
What will be the assignment for Sam The Sham and The Pharoahs???

Tarshish and the Young LIons?
Hey, I played with those dudes!
The drummer wasn't very good though!

Tom Terrific
2:34:05 PM
9/17/01

RE: What a CROCK!
Wooly Bully, Tom!

May Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson be discovered in a sleazy motel room with a cheap hooker!

May they have carnal knowledge with a diseased yaak.
Aero
4:43:24 PM
9/17/01

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