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Define: racist
Come on all you politically correct people out there, define it for me. What is your definaition of a racist (and don't say "Buddha Bear, or David Duke, that would be a cop out)
Buddha Bear
12:34:27 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
one who beleves that some races are, by nature, superior to others and/or discrimination based on such belief.
radagast
12:37:39 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
how about james earl ray?
Les Français Backpaker
12:37:48 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
1) one who believes that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

2) one who advocates for discrimination, or harsh measures to be taken against others on the basis of their race.
PedXing
1:02:28 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
According to the PC Police (whose definitions are virtually unquestioned today), a "racist" is anyone who acknowledges differences among races.

Or among the more radical fringes of the PC movement, one who even acknowledges the existence of race.
steve hiker
1:05:58 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
"one who even acknowledges the existence of race"

???

By that definition, I must be a racist then.
TownDawg
1:12:22 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Idealists assume that there is no difference between races. Realists can easily recognize that there are differences.

I consider a racist to be someone who oppresses people based on race.
bacpac
1:16:03 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Exactly. Well said bacpac.
TownDawg
1:20:53 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi-
Function: noun
Date: 1936
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

-Webster
Buddha Bear
1:35:47 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
According to the PC Police:

Racist: All white males

Non Racist: Everybody else
BaSO4
1:43:45 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Bite ME!

Who are these PC Police?

We have this PC sh!t on the part of liberals AND conservatives.
Anyone who toes ANY particular political line are PC sheep.

Geeeezzzz!
Think for your self, people!

Tom Terrific
2:04:42 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Chill, tom.. we are having fun with this..
TownDawg
2:06:58 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
You're right to a degree, Tom. Today's PC Police are primarily liberals, whereas in the past they were conservatives.

Just like the McCarthy PC Police of the 1950s, today's liberal PC Police seek to destroy anyone who expresses a contrary viewpoint.
steve hiker
2:09:49 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
So ignore the silly bastards!

It tickles me to see conservatives bemoaning this "evil" they call PC.
They sound like Chicken Little.
Yet some of them will follow puss-buckets like LImbaugh and those other radio propagandists.
Uh, don't they call themselves ditto-heads?
Yeah, let some radio big mouth do your thinking for you.

Tom Terrific
2:39:18 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Tom: Modifying your words slightly with your permission >> "let the media's big mouth do your thinking for you"

It's such a shame how many forwards, and conversations, and chat rooms I find myself in the middle of, and the only information these folks had was this ONE comment by someone else. Let the Nostradamus hoax that EVERYONE was forwarding?.. My gosh.. how about someone actually check that one out first?

But anywayz.. back to my point.. Somewhere the vast majority of people have become green jelly heads who depend on unreliable sources for their information, and ultimately -- their opinions.
TownDawg
2:44:15 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Racist

1. One who drives a high performance vehicle in a competition.

2. One who attends a competiton where high performance vehicles are raced.
BaSO4
3:12:45 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
LMAO!! I didn't get it at first..
TownDawg
3:16:37 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Of course Tom, you can't quantify anything for yourself, you only know how to rip others. You can't even come up with a simple definition, how sad. What, are you afriad to expose your liberal "grey" area that you are so accustomed to?
Buddha Bear
3:16:52 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
I think we're pretty much all racist... whether or not we're willing to admit it is another story!
Can anyone on here honestly say they've never made deprecating comments about someone based on their skin colour/religion/country of origin/ethnic background or physical/mental disAbilities? How many times have we told or laughed at stupid jokes that quantify stereotypes of people who are different than ourselves? I know I'm not perfect... I've done it before & yeah, I feel ashamed of it & watch what I say now.
I think that most people(aside from the newly born) have made racist comments or thought deprecating thoughts about others at certain points in their lives...
medic_girl
3:32:26 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Dawg-
I don't let media bigmouths of any stripe do my thinking for me.
And its not just one way or the other.
Information, like science, is constantly evolving.
While the politically motivated right-wing media bigmouths are always singing the same tune.
LIfe is change, how it differs from the rock.
Politically bent media heads don't give out information, they twist facts or simply make it up.
".....honest people, I'm not making up this stuff..."
Yeah, right!

Buddha Bear-
I'm a liberal, sure, so what.
I make up my own mind and I might even agree with you on something now and then.
That, my boy, is called flexibility!


My grey area is all over my head,
look at my picture!
LIfe IS a grey area.

I don't toe any political line but I'll never vote Republican......the party of the business class.
Vote how ever you like.


What the hell is wrong with a little friendly ripping???
Have I hurt your feelings?
How's about a kiss?

I won't bother calling you a racist.
Too many others have and I don't know you well enough to say that.
The definition is plain enough.
You probably are not racist, maybe just a bit of a blowhard with an overdose of macho......did someone say bacpac.

I like you guys, really, but its fun to get it on!

Tom Terrific
3:49:52 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Tom Terrific - Who are these PC Police?

I'll tell you who they are:

The PC police, they live inside of my head.
The PC police, they come to me in my bed.
The PC police, they're coming to arrest me, oh no.

You know that talk is cheap, and those rumors ain't nice.
And when I fall asleep I don't think I'll survive the night, the nigh

'Cause they're waiting for me.
They're looking for me.
Ev'ry single night they're driving me insane.
Those men inside my brain.

The PC police, they live inside of my head.
(Live inside of my head.)
The PC police, they come to me in my bed.
(Come to me in my bed.)
The PC police, they're coming to arrest me, oh no.

Well, I can't tell lies, 'cause they're listening to me.
And when I fall asleep, bet they're spying on me tonight, tonight.

'Cause they're waiting for me.
They're looking for me.
Ev'ry single night they're driving me insane.
Those men inside my brain.

I try to sleep, they're wide awake, they won't leave me alone.
They don't get paid to take vacations, or let me alone.
They spy on me, I try to hide, they won't let me alone.
They persecute me, they're the judge and jury all in one.

'Cause they're waiting for me.
They're looking for me.
Ev'ry single night they're driving me insane.
Those men inside my brain.

The PC police, they live inside of my head.
The PC police, they come to me in my bed.
The PC police, they're coming to arrest me.
BaSO4
4:17:02 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
It is very difficult to define racism because there are no such things as races in the human species. Race is an artificial human construction, and has no basis in genetics or morphology.

According to old fashioned racial classification, almost all "arabic" people are white/caucasian.

IMO, Buddha, you have made several irresponsible and bigoted statements this week. Frankly, I do not understand what your motivation is.
wsexson
4:49:58 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
I have been called a racist before. Big deal. It is just a label and it is not illegal.
bacpac
4:55:19 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
"Race is an artificial human construction, and has no basis in genetics or morphology."

Oh? Babies aren't born white or black because of genetics? I guess the black babies' parents spent too much time at the beach without sunblock!

The above quote is the exact type of lying bullsh!t I'm talking about. Denial of the very fact of race. What is stunning is that the PC-whipped media repeats it.
steve hiker
5:36:18 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Whoa, Stevie. We are all part of the human race. Simple point to understand. No need for anger.
Dunadan
5:51:14 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
We are part of the human species. There are several races within our species.
steve hiker
5:52:48 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
I think there have been some excellent definitions posted here which have fit the comments made by the person who created this thread.
Gear Slut
5:56:08 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
I think there have been some excellent definitions posted here which have fit the comments made by the person who created this thread.
Gear Slut
5:56:18 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
uh..this is too heavy..someone pass me a key to that tanker behind the barn with the beer in it..BB are you the one with the key?
txwoodswoman
5:57:18 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Steve, which race do the "middle eastern" people belong to?
Dunadan
6:06:58 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Don't know. I'm not very familiar with Middle Eastern people.
steve hiker
6:11:10 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Good. This will give you a subject to research. Let me know what you find out.
Dunadan
6:26:52 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
What about the phrase ...the human race? and homo sapiens as a species?
the first place i could search right now was Encarta for the taxonomic nomenclature ( i am too lazy to walk over to the library right now...i am still at work and wanna go home)this is what encarta had to say:

" Human, common name given to any
individual of the species Homo sapiens and,
by extension, to the entire species. The term
is also applied to certain species that were
the evolutionary forerunners of Homo sapiens
(see Human Evolution).SCIENTISTS CONSIDER ALL LIVING PEOPLE MEMBERS OF A SINGLE SPECIES.
II. Classification
Homo sapiens is identified, for purposes of
classification, as an animal (kingdom
Animalia) with a backbone (phylum Chordata)
and segmented spinal cord (subphylum
Vertebrata) that suckles its young (class
Mammalia); that gestates its young with the
aid of a placenta (subclass Eutheria); that is
equipped with five-digited extremities, a
collarbone, and a single pair of mammary
glands on the chest (order Primates); and
that has eyes at the front of the head,
stereoscopic vision, and a proportionately
large brain (suborder Anthropoidea). The
species belongs to the family Hominidae, the
general characteristics of which are
discussed below."

I am a scientist...is that a race? I would really like to do more research to see if and where "race" is part of the terminology. Anybody out there know if race is a scientific category in taxonomy?

just my nickels worth...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I-am-OM
6:48:35 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
I live in Louisiana, and I can point out members of the negro race with absolute certainty.
steve hiker
7:05:34 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
I also find it odd that the same idiots who deny a genetic basis for race have no problem suing for civil rights violations based on race.
steve hiker
7:13:25 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Tom Terriffic.. this is potentially very amusing, please address these disparities in one of your posts if you can:

to BB: "I'm a liberal, sure, so what.
I make up my own mind"... later in same post "I don't toe any political line but I'll never vote Republican"

Sounds to me like you've already made up your mind...or, it's been made up for you and you're following the dictates of your leaders.
Of course, you'd never acknowledge that... sounds like you think you make your own decisions.

TT, you're an intellectual neophyte. That's not meant derogatorily, just a statement of fact. If you can't see the factual basis for my asessment, well, that's something else to debate...
wanderer
8:28:18 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Where do you get intellectual? If we spend all day on this website, how intellectual can we be? Tom may be a lot of things, but intellectual is not one of them.
bacpac
8:34:55 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
I agree. Posting here is akin to watching WWF wrestling. I actually lose brain cells while reading stuff here.
Gear Slut
8:38:56 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Buncha damn Hominids...

Why does Om get a nickel's worth all of a sudden!?! I've been getting along fine on my 2 cents; must be inflation.

I don't think 'race' figures into the Biology of it all (except perhaps superficially) -- 'the human race' isn't a scientific concept. I think it's more a philosophical one.
Tilt
8:44:30 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
When people of the human race moved into my block, there went the neighborhood!
Gear Slut
8:52:29 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
bacpac, it seams most like a soap opera to me. Same stuff, different people,over and over and over...with some welcome exceptions.
sklukaz
8:58:31 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
Steven Wright would be proud.
Tilt
9:00:00 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
I don't understand the rancor directed at wsexon's explication. The differentiation between a social construct based on limited data (I can SEE that they are a different color than me!) and the biologic is no attempt at being PC. It's being rational. It is not a denial of social behavior.

An examination of genetic differentiation in humans does not find enough to reach the threshold biologists need to classify races within the human species as they might within other species. Color variations alone are not enough.

And I truly doubt that Steve Hiker can "with absolute certainty" separate on sight all Negros from those of other "races" considering the wide variation in skin tone, facial features, hair texture, etc., that cross alleged racial lines. Why, because Steve Hiker cannot define what a Negro is. How much "bloodline" or genetic code of a certain lineage must be present to make someone Negro or Caucasian? Any argument that a little bit of one makes you that one as a classification is inherently false because it doesn't go both ways.

If you are 1 percent "black" and 99 percent "white" some folks might say you are "black." But they wouldn't say the reverse ratio would make you white, would they? An illogical interpretation of data, which is the basis of the social construct called "racism," that one element is inferior.

Nor have I ever seen any correlation (and I can't imagine how Steve Hiker ever could have) between those who calmly present the biological view and those who file civil rights suits.

I spent four months working with students on exploring the issue of hate and its ancillary issues, such as racism, in order to build critical thinking skills. This differentiation between biological and social concepts was one of the most difficult divides to cross, so I don't expect it to be easy on TT either.
pekka
9:00:44 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
I'm back!
Did you all miss me?
mapfreak
9:01:14 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
I want to change my definition of racist.

racist = mapfreak
bacpac
9:04:29 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
A young woman who works in our lab and who is from a country in Africa remarked today that she is glad that she can "pass" as African American as long as she doesn't speak. This is due to the hostility right now towards all non-caucasian foreigners. I thought that was saying a lot and I'd say this goes deeper than racism.
sklukaz
9:08:04 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
I-am-OM I am a scientist too, I think we are our own race

we're weird
Biz
9:11:12 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
That was pretty quick Bacpac. Were you waiting for me?
mapfreak
9:15:51 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
PC Police, huh, BaSO4?? LOL!! Thanks for the trip down Cheap Trick memory lane. ;-)
lizs
9:20:55 PM
9/14/01

RE: Define: racist
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lizs
9:21:25 PM
9/14/01

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