A**HOLES W/DOGS

“He even carries his own back with his blanket, food, water, and tie up wire lead. He has never jumped, mauled, barked, anyone that has come to us. He loves kids and will let kids play and do pratically anything. I do appreciate when people ask if they can pet him. I usually tell them that he doesn't bite, but sometimes I do.

Spock, you really need to learn your breeds. Huskies are considered one of the more docile breeds. They would rather lick ya to death than bite ya. But I pity the person who would attack my mother or me. I'd chew the legs off the attacker and then I'd urinate on them.

I for one wish I could take my dog more places, but unfortuately that is not always possible. I always keep to trail etiquete, make him poop off the trail, as I do. Last time I pooped in the woods, it wasn't on the trail...same for him, but peeing is a different subject, for both of us...you gota go, you go. And the fool that would shoot my dog, better shoot me too, cause I'll gut and quarter ya and hang the skin up to dry...morons with guns on the trail drinking beer...thats a great combination.”

“OH! THE HUMANITYYYYYYY!










hehehee!”

“I gotta agree w/ colonialmiss. Keep dogs on a leash when on the trail; better yet, don't allow dogs on any trail. There's sort of a regression that takes place w/ dog and owner when in the wild. My last encounter was hiking to a hotspring when a couple allowed their dog to intimidate me at a trail junction just to prove a point. These jerks were also camping "next" to the hotspring. I got my revenge by hiking out the next day, opening their car, taking a dump on the drivers seat and pissing on the passenger seat. I wanted to make their experience as nice as mine. I actually have a friend who shot and killed two charging dobermans at a state park. The owners were pissed but had no recourse; he only got a $50 fine for shooting a gun at the park.”

“willk, I will assume that you are kidding about defecating in the peoples car...

If not that was just plain cruel. Justifying your actions because their dog crapped in a trail is pathetic. The dog owners were inconsiderate, you maliciously destroyed private property.

Unless you pack out ALL of your excrement you are by far the biggest hypocrite on TT.

If that were my car and I saw you doin that you would still be pickin the crap outta your teeth. That is an act of extreme cowardice. Shame on you.Be a man an confront folks like that, explain your case resonably and be done with it. I am sure they didnt learn the lesson you desired.”

“Don't take it so seriously. I don't want to waste time trading barbs and getting in a pissing contest with someone who wasn't there. It had nothing to do w/ dog crap. We had words. These people used their dog as a weapon so they'd have the canyon to themselves. It's public land, NF and Wilderness to boot. The car was unlocked, BTW. It sounds crazy but I felt it was the right thing to do at the time. I enjoyed it; only wish I had a good magazine.”

“And they lived happily ever after.
Next thread!”

“Valiant try at what I guess was supposed to be a retort. You sound a bit disapproving and prudish.”

“willk sounds like he's lacking in his manhood...NO BALLS..biatch! This is one case where i wish the dog did maul a person”

“Willk, how can you be sure that, that was their car?”

“Member that time you doodood in my daddys truk? BOL!
Them was gooooooood times!

It was soooo stinky in the truk!
It was a good roma therrapy!

TBW -
Wher did you get that crazy trale name?
/o:3”

“"There's sort of a regression that takes place w/ dog and owner when in the wild."

FOR YOU (obviously)!”

“What grade are you in?
(your obviously old enuff for yer mommy to let you hike alone).”

“Crapping in other people's cars. Now I'll bet THAT really drives the women wild!”

“....or men as the case may be...”

“ROTFLMFAO!!!

I'm nominating this thread for TT Classic designation.”

“Hey willk. You sound like a TOTAL LOSER!!!”

“Lets say you're solo-ing and some group of putzs makes your trip unbearable and are real pigs. Why not crap in their car? I think its hysterical! (but only in the case of people truly deserving.)”

“I with wild child (nice to see you posting (if it is you).

Someone who is, per the title of the thread, an A**hole with a dog, and uses that dog as described, deserves what they get.

Perhaps, Birch, that the couple with the dog would (apparently didn't) listen to reason, or appreciate a view differing from theirs. What if they used phyical intimidation to drive off Willk either directly, or threatening with their dog (which it sounds like they did). What then? Does WillK stand his ground and potentially get mauled by the dog and/or its owners?? His weekend was ruined by them.

I gotta say, crapping and peeing in their car was mild. If I had assurance it was THEIR car, I would have knifed all four tires, clipped as many wires under the hood as I could, smashed all the windows and pissed and crapped in it.

BY the way. This has NOTHING TO DO WITH DOGS. You could as easily have a run in with a couple of drunk meatheads with or without dogs. If you can win the fight, then fight. If you can't, destroy them in some other meaningful way.”

“Imagine that car after a few days in the sun with the windows rolled up!

Help me understand:

I am amazed and puzzled by the vigor with which you responsible dog owners defend the irresposible dog owners. In my experience, not necessarily typical, they are in the majority, and make life hard on those of you who are responsible.

I'm not defending crapping in someone's car, or threatening to shoot, so please don't flame me on that.

The dogs I've met on the trail were unleashed 99% of the time. I can't remember ever seeing one leashed. I've been jumped on by countless dogs on the trail. I happen to like dogs and do not fear them so I don't get mad (at the dog) but it seems really presumptious of the owners the assume no one minds that sort of thing. Some folks are really afraid of dogs. Isn't this inconsiderate in a big way?”

“One time a friend and I were camped not too far from a farm. A farm dog came up and tried to make friends about the time our dinner was ready. We didn’t want to share so we drove him off. The next morning, we found that the little bugger had snuck back overnight and crapped in my friends boot that was in the vestibule!

We got even though! We waited in the bushes and watched the farmer go out in his truck. While he was gone, we @#%&*$ all his sheep and made the dog watch!”

“LMAO!”

“What, what?”

“You, you! That was funny ya sheep shagger.”

“Actually the first part of the story was true. He'd make a good pet for willk.”

“Violin, you should've done the dog too. Gross!!”

“Yep, would've been a match made in heaven, alright.”

“is that really YOU, violin?”

“My two are way to dumb-sweet-but dumb to go out on the trail.

I love dogs on the trail-as long as they are with the group.”

“Yes, it's me rad. Here I was doing view/source to make sure that was you.”

“Lee, even if the dogs owners didnt agree with a differing point of view doesnt permit what willk did.Part of being a civil person (which the dog owners evidently werent) is to WALK AWAY. Be mature about it, h@ck we learned that in third grade.

This type of logic would seem to approve of following a bad driver to a mall then "keying" their car...

What about a jerk at work? Its okay to piss in his thermos. This sh!t is juvenile and stupid. Be a man and let it go, walk away and be the better person.

This kinda assinine behaviour is what causes situations to escalate to dangerous levels.

I havent read any post that defends the dog owners irresponsiblity, I have read posts that decry was poop-boy did.”

“Birch--- For the most part I agree with you. "keying" cars at the mall is a sort of brand of road rage. Anonymous person pisses me off, so I follow them and "get revenge". I think it demonstrates a problem with the person who "keys".

The problem in the woods wasn't as "anonymous". A couple of folks with dog weighed a situation, decided they had the upper hand, and took advantage. Walking away it certainly an option. But not a very satisying one. Why should the "little guy" (guy without the dog, guy without the gun, whatever) always walk away?? Why not make the SOBs suffer? I hope their car stinks for the rest of its usable life.

Important to note. I was not there, I have no idea what actually transpired. I have obviously projected/made a lot of assumptions about the "bad" actions of the dog owners and the "reasonable" actions of WillK that were met with intimidation. I could have the whole scenario completely wrong.”

“That is classic!!!!! you crapped in someones car over a dog encounter!!!! I could see myself doing that when I was 13! LMAO!!! Classic!!!!! BTW, next time piss in the vents!!!

Savor that crappy moment because it will comeback to haunt ya!!! Tenfold.... Make amends and challenge your fears. Think about the big picture! Ya know that kharma crap!!”

“My last encounter was hiking to a hotspring when a couple allowed their dog to intimidate me at a trail junction just to prove a point.
willk
05:01:48 PM
01/14/02

So what was their point? And how was the dog intimidating you...barking, growling, snarling with teeth showing, or just being there??? A dog jumping up and down with joy is enough to intimidate some folks in this forum.

And I don't believe the doberman story...shoots TWO dogs, is a State Park, and gets a $50 dollar fine!!! C'mon man, I think someone's shucking some jive.”

“really need to get out a little more often. Trouble is most people, like yourselves (Minister/Buddur) live their lives in a quiet desparation and unfortunatly get used to it. Putting yourself in a box is comfortable; sort of like being back in the womb, I guess. Try being wide-eyed and open instead of myopic and closed minded; memorable life long experiences and visions will fill your mind. When my friend, who beat overwhelming odds with cancer by taking experimental chemo, told the doberman story I had no reason to think he was lying. I live in one of the 5 largest states. I'm not going to mention locations because I don't want people like yourselves coming out here. Anyway, imagine a long sandbar, no trees, on a man-made lake. A fashionable couple and their two thoroughbred dobbies out at the end. They're unleashed. They see my friend and his buddy strolling around the cove. They break into that pursuit run; you know, the one that pumps adrenaline into you, fight or run. No trees but you have a .357. The owners are calling frantically but the dogs are in kill-mode. The first one he drops at 50 feet. My friend and his buddy scramble into the junipers but they're too small to climb. He tries a leg shot on the second but the center-mass is just too big. The second dog dies a little while later. Out where I live , my friend, it is legal to shoot a dog if you are a rancher or own rural land. It's law, the state-troopers run down and shoot strays just for sport. I guess you guys live back east. I'd move from there if I were you but don't come here. I don't think you could handle it.”

“A galloping Doberman at 50 feet, with a .357!!!! you say.... WOW not that is a shot to brag about at the club right Charlie!!! Anyhoot... cancer is tough but shooting those dogs ...man that is a hard one to beat.....did he have to empty his gun? dogs and frighten people don't mix. Correct that problem of yours and your life will be richer.

It is to bad we'll never know what those dogs were going to do!!! I can see them talking to St. Pete at the gate.

Dogs: ha pete we just don't get it, we were thinking..... maybe, you know, of gettin a couple of sniffs and some barks in on these people on down the way. My bubby here.... He takes off first and I followed, ya know....... I'm a dog. Next thing I know there is this loud barrage of bangs and frantic screams. He takes a dinger into the dirt, I began to slow down to investigate what happen to my buddy when BAM!!!! I gett hit too. Thats it in a nut shell. Pete were dogs..... how about a break!!!!!!

St. Pete: Ya I've heard that one before... next time serpentine on your approach. Move along now and stay out of my yard.”

“Sorry, dood. I live my life in quiet desparation and, unfortunatly, I'm used to it. My box is comfortable, like being back in the womb. I'm rather myopic and closed minded, and need memorable life long experiences and visions to fill your mind. So will ya please tell me where you live? I wanna visit there, I mean, I DO need to get out more.”

“One of the 5 largest states. Out west. Methinks Montana. Just a hunch.”

“Camping at a man made lake.


Ha hahahahahahahahahahahaahahaahaahahhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahhahahahahahahaahaha.
















Loser.”

“One time a doberman rushed towards me while I was biking on a bike trail. I would say he/she was about 50 yards in front of me. Hotdamn, those things could run. There was no cover for me except my bike. Everything was happening so fast, I didn't even get a chance to get off my bicycle (although I stopped completely when I saw the dog coming at me). Luckily he stopped and ran back to his master when he called. The dog was about 25 ft from me. I only registered fear after the owner put the leash back on the dog (that's how fast things were happening). Those things you see on TV, where a person can outrun a dog (when he has seen you)...forget about it.”

“Well I've been lurking for day's an can't stand it any more. Do some of these people go back an read what they wrote? Are they not embarrased? No one can RUIN your back country experience except YOU. If you stop what your doing an participate in any situation it is You, not anyone else that determines your reaction. I have been hiking for over 20 years mostly solo, an mostly with a dog. I must be hiking in a different world. I've not had these wild dog/owner encounters. but again when I meet someone/dog on the trail I dont stop to RUIN my day. On the very few occasions another dog has made a fuss about me or my dog. I dont stop or waste my time. I go around an keep on going it's amazing how that works. My experience has never been ruined how can it be? only I can do that. Your not going to change anyone you meet on the trail, an you cant change the dog so why waste your time? go on about your business.

Willk
I find it interesting that you comment on opening your mind, an talk about memorable life experiences. I try to make my memorable life experiences about beauty, an kindness an pleasant, things even in the face of adversity there's always something positive to be learned. Not dirt, an filth an ugliness,that you create yourself.what a memorable experience. no wonder you think like that. your mind must be so crowded with ugly images. It is truly scary, to think there are people like that out there in the woods. I'm much more afraid of the human element, an their unpredicability then any dog. But I guess no matter how bizarre a persons actions, whatever they have done make perfect sense to them at the time.”

“After reading, responding, and thinking about willk's comments...i've finally come to the conclusion he's F&CKING LYING!...How many pple leave their vehicles unlocked at the trailhead? I'm betting willk didn't even think about crapping in the car until later that night lying in bed in his basement room of his mom's house (willk's prob 35 too) Also bragging about 357's and dropping animals at range at a full run...especially both of them..sounds like a tall tale to me, or compensating for a lack in some other dept.”

“I had a doberman run at me full tilt without any warning. It came charging at me with it's mouth open and tongue and teeth hanging out. The owner was shouting like mad for it to stop but it ignored him. When it finally got to me I braced myself and it's a good thing because that damb thing had the slimiest tongue I have ever felt on my face in my life. Yuk! It was disgusting! And it's breath! And the way it kept wagging that tail!


Why are people afraid of dogs? Do their parents use them as torture devices?”

“it's always been my experience that if a dog is 'ornery or just plain bad..it won't come for a random human. Neighboors dogs, and friends dogs that i come up to that are snarling, barking, and going nuts as you come near them will stop if you A. don't invade their space, or B. slow down and show that your not a harm. Like skull said...unless you run (and if you run they either think your playing..or done something)or start hitting them your just gonna get a lick”

“It seems that some of you are struggling with this. The fact that you are replying indicates doubt because if I were lying you'd walk away and kill this thread. I think you should enjoy the fact that in both cases things resolved rather quickly. It's over but I still chuckle inside when I think of the dog owner's faces. I hope that some of you who read a few replies in, at least, tenuous support will realize there are more than a few of us who don't hold much regard for dogs or their owners. No matter how clever you think your reply was most were as I expected -accusatory, prudish and unimaginative with a bit of defensiveness thrown in.
Here's a challenge - do us both a favor and kill the thread.”

“Yo willlk, this thread was here long before you got here and it will be here long after you're gone. Nice ego, though.”

“Charging dobey at 50' with a hand gun?

"Riiiiight"
~ Dr. Evil

Hey Wacky Willy,
If yer not gonna admit to living in MT, at least tell us what grade you're in...

"...get out more."?
Who do you think you're talking to?
Do you not read the threads?
Collectively, we TT'ers are some of the most traveled people on the internet.

We see you for the weenie that you are (worryth not, my sonny - you're not alone here at TT). We understand that some peeps are gonna have a miserable experience inspite of whatever magnificent surroundings they may be within. You're adolescent behavior is indefensable - someone mentioned being an adult about it... you may or may not reach that plateau someday.

If you are not prepared to react appropriately to the myriad scenarios in which you may encounter in the backcountry, you should prolly stay on the porch with the pups.

What EVER would you do if you encountered the Skeery Woof Bare?!
o8=


...puss”

“Thanks”

“gojo..you coming on the sipsey ECT? you bringin ya pup?”

“Hey willk I have a few questions for you:

1. When did you decide to poop in that couple's car? While you were hiking out or when you got to the parking lot?

2. Please describe your thoughts that led you to decide on that course of action. Was it a process of elimination (e.g., poop and pee is better than slashing tires), or did the idea just poop, I mean pop into your head?

3. How did you know it was their car and not the car of some innocent hiker who's still wondering why he found poop inside his car?

4. Did you leave a note explaining your revenge or did ya figure it would be obvious to them?”

“Dudes a full grown doby at 50 yards is not a difficult shot. Were talking 70 -80 pounds of dog. If you can consistently hit a 3 inch circle at 50 feet a dog at 50 yards would be cake.

centavo

No wonder you've never had a back country experience ruined... You're the @$$ hole with the dog busy ruining everyone else's day.

I don't like the fact that Willk's friend killed the dogs, but I wasn't there... but then again I use pepper spray on dogs frequently, which I suppose could be viewed as just as bad.

so centavo Where do you go camping? Me and Wilk wanna check out your dog... hehehehe”