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Really, le subtil? Did we not have the population problem we have today? Or was there another reason?
tarabull
12:36:56 PM
1/17/02

My dad worked for the State Fish and Wildlife Department. He told me years ago, one winter they had two dogs kill 12 elk in two days. Dogs take deer and elk down not so much to eat them, but because it's their instinct. In most states citizens can legally shoot a dog that either has killed or is even chasing deer, even if the dog is on private land. Winter and fawning season are times when deer are most vulnerable. I think everybody agrees it's not the dogs that are the problem, it's the owners of the dogs that are the problem...
kleetn
12:42:54 PM
1/17/02

WILLK
The south can be a hard place to make friends,there are pretentious people everywhere.I too have lived all over the country and the one thing that I have found is that there are far fewer people here that stand on who they are and what they have.Traditions and heritage remain important-but remember most of my generation-I was born in 1962, have come embrace the philosophy of judging a man by the content of his character and not the color of his skin.

I also believe that most of "the people" worldwide are the same-we all just live life as it comes.

The core issue - and this will by my final word-I don't think the dogs deserved to be killed.
JOSH MAN
1:20:30 PM
1/17/02

Dogs don't kill people
People with dogs kill people.
People with dogs also kill people with dogs only if the people with dogs have smaller dogs.
People without dogs kill people with dogs if the people with dogs are, like, surprised or something.
Dogs kill dogs.
People kill dogs.
People kill dogs and eat them.
Dogs kill elk who's rancid meat kill people because of E coli contamination.
Elk kill rabbits.
Rabbits kill people.
People kill jackalopes.
My uncle (God rest his soul) could kill a pint of Kessler.
This thread kills me.
I'm considering buying a hiking kilt. That way, I won't kill so much time during my urinary breaks.
Dogs drink urine.
My brother-in-law can urinate nonstop for 11 minutes.
My girlfriend can urinate for 11 feet.
I camped in 11 degree temperatures in the Dacks last/this month.
South Georgia lies within a temperate zone.
Zone spelled backward is not a real word in the English language.
Enoz means "ill tempered dingo" in Aboriginy.
Dingo boots ROCK!
Small rocks are called "gravel", "scree", and "pebbles".
I wish The Flinstones were still on the air - I bet Pebbles is a HOTTIE now!
Larry Flint was shot while exiting a restaurant in Lawrenceville, GA. I ate lunch at that restaurant daily for the duration of a construction project (1-1/2 years) that I worked on in that area.
I suspect their country fried steak was dog meat.
Never take a dog to a Vietnamese veterinarian.
"Doghnu" is Vietnamese for "belly button lint", or, in certain context, "Your ox is slow to get out of my rice patty, and I'm getting impatient".

I love you!
Joe
gojo
1:24:48 PM
1/17/02

you love me?

kinky!!
radagast
1:30:35 PM
1/17/02

Willk
Your kinda coming across as pretty arrogant yourself, whether that is your intention or not I dont know. It's great you've had the time, money, an oppurtunities to travel extensively in other countries. But dont assume that the other people on here are less outdoors men/women. or are not equal to you cuz they havent had the same oppurtunities. It's all relative. I routinely work with 1000lb animals that are agressive, an just as dangerous, as most wild animals your going to meet, except maybe a grizzly, an they certainly can do as much damage an kill you just as quick without as much warning as a grizzly. But I dont think anyone else is less a person because they might not have the same skills to. Your probably a very nice person in your own way. Although it's hard to get passed the sh$t/car thing it's cool to share the places you've been. I'm positive given the chance not many here would turn down the offer of trips like those either. Maybe one day we'll all be able to afford it
centavo
2:00:28 PM
1/17/02

With all my hard!
I mean "heart".
gojo
2:05:36 PM
1/17/02

Trolling For Suckers...And Doing A Good Job
If people with dogs know that there are people like me out there...
willk
11:25:03 AM
01/17/02


So now we know how you feel about dogs in general. It isn't the fact that few dogs are out of control, it's just the fact that you don't like em...and it's apparent (to me) that you enjoy stirring up the emotions of people who do.

You're a very good troll wrt this subject. I'm sure you're deriving tons of enjoyment from this, Mr.willk, but even you must realize it's getting a little old. Now are you gonna get off yer beaten to death path and contribute to this board elsewhere, or are you just going to continue poking sticks on this single thread?
Buddur
2:10:07 PM
1/17/02

budd...
It's called defending yourself. It's good practice. Want it to end? It's simple- stop replying. Stop acting like Dr Laura.
On another note, wouldn't it be great if the thread had a link to a multi-player online game where the theme would be related to the topic. If you disagreed with a poster you could press a link labeled "challenge". For this thread it could be "Kanine Killer", "Dog Doom" or something like that. When you enter the game you can be the dog w/ owner or a dog-hater. You could pick all kinds of cool weapons. If you were the dog-hater you could have a pair of .357s, shotgun, flamethrowers, etc. If you were the owner w/ dogs you could have a pack of flesh-tearing rotts or pits or whatever breed you wanted and you yourself could have a baseball bat, electric whip, etc, etc. The audio could be growling, snarling dogs attacking, gun fire, yelps of burning dogs, screams of ripped apart dog-hater. Wouldn't that be fun? We'd all feel alot better.
willk
2:49:14 PM
1/17/02

There is no doubt that it is forbidden to keep a dog except for those cases that the Shariah has specifically permitted. Whoever has a dog - unless it be a hunting, livestock or farm dog - will lose a qirat’s (a very large portion) worth of his reward every day. If he loses a qirat’s worth of reward, it means that he is committing a sin because one does not lose reward except by committing sin. Hence, both of these aspects show that it is forbidden, due to the result of that.

In this case, I advise all of those who are deceived into following what the disbelievers do concerning having dogs as pets, that such dogs are evil and a great impurity. The impurity of a dog is not cleansed except by washing a container (in which it licked) seven times, one of them being with soil. Even the pig, that Allah has declared in the Quran to be unlawful and impure, has not reached that extent. Therefore, dogs are impure and dirty.

However, with deep apologies, we find some people deceived by the ways of the disbelievers who like impure things and, therefore, they also keep dogs as pets without any need or necessity. They keep the dogs, bring them and clean them, although they can never become cleansed even if one uses an entire sea. This is because their impurity is a physical impurity.

Furthermore, they waste a lot of money on such dogs and this is wasted money. The Prophet has forbidden the wasting of money. I advise those who have been deceived to repent to Allah and to get the dogs out of their houses. As for those who need the dogs for hunting, farming or livestock, there is no harm in that because the Prophet has permitted that.
Zuwarah Kwennoir
2:50:32 PM
1/17/02

willk where did you get that I was a teacher. I am an electrician, never stated or eluded anything else. Also panama isnt a developed country you may have missed that little bit of international news.
Birch
2:59:52 PM
1/17/02

Zuwarah Kwennoir....
Nice try. You've been to fadetoblack.com too. Used that African Name Generator. It's only a gag. Unfortunately, I can't input "Zuwarah Kwennoir" and find out your real name. You're just another poser who thought they were clever but not clever enough. The other unfortunate thing is you make the Muslim people look bad. Racist!
willk
3:17:45 PM
1/17/02

Hey Zoo Kween...
Get rid of Belle?!
No way, ya FREAK!
(Not until it warms up a bit).

No...
wait!

Hey! She "hunts" rats!
And she wears a backpack - that makes her livestock.

Whew!
close one.
gojo
3:18:20 PM
1/17/02

Dogs, horses, mountain bikes, GPS units, trekking poles, Scouts, large groups, titanium gear, permits, commercial guide services, cell phones, guns, external frame packs, gas stoves, liquid stoves, wood fires, etc.

Anything else to add to the list?
I wouldn't want the politically correct egocentric elitists to run out of topics to whine and snivel about.
gordon
3:38:05 PM
1/17/02

Is willk your real name?

Just how is explaining the Muslim position on dogs as pets making a people look bad?

I only ask because you are an expert on making one look bad.
Zuwarah Kwennoir
3:38:21 PM
1/17/02

gordon....
Find your own style instead stealing Rush Limbaugh's. You sound like a TT dittohead.

Zuwarah Kwennoir....
please direct me to the verse in whatever "book" you are quoting from.
willk
3:49:26 PM
1/17/02

I Rest My Case, Your Honor
Wow, that's scary...this whole time I've been thinking that you've been acting like Dr.Laura, Mr.willk, what with your long and drawn out posts that few agree with. I'm just not into name calling.
Buddur
4:45:03 PM
1/17/02

Is anyone dead yet?
Let me try to squeeze in here without threatening bodily harm or bodily functions.

Most dog encounters I have on the trail involve hikers approaching from the opposite direction. The dog, who spends 99 % of it's life in a secure area, is unprepared for a stranger who appears suddenly at close range and advancing with a stick. (Hiking Stick) The dogs owners are less prepared.

The dog reacts like a dog will and the owners start yelling commands to the dog with varying degrees of success. The confrontation is over in a few seconds as I pass by or assert myself with my stick. The dog owner has two typical reactions. They admonish the dog and then praise it for being such a dutiful sentry (most dog owners rely on their dog for a sense of security) or they just praise the beast for protecting them from the evil hiker.

This situation is not unique with me (obviously), but dog owners have myopic vision when it comes to their pet and they see the situation in a different light.
bacpac
4:47:36 PM
1/17/02

boring....
yes buddur, I think you're right. I'm listening to mostly whining and very few imaginative, sharp-witted retorts. The biggest sign of the downward spiral, and a very revealing one at that, was Kwennoir. You gotta admit I nailed his butt good. Most religious writings are metaphoric, "dogs" has durogatory meaning even in the Bible. Most of the time they don't mean "dogs" literally. Zuwarah lacked wit and brought more negativity on a people who don't need anymore these days. That's the hypocrisy of the whole thing you'll never see. What's worse, what I did or posting scripture from the Koran to spawn more hate? We're only talking dogs here. And you call yourselves backpackers? i think I'm vested in a much bigger world than most on this thread.
willk
5:38:15 PM
1/17/02

Think what you want willk, but in my opinion, what you've shown on this thread is that you seem to be vested in a very narrow realm, thinking primarily about yourself, about how things revolve around YOU and you only. You chose to rattle your saber on a topic which obviously, a lot of people here are opinionated about. BFD. Any jackass can do that. I've yet to see you come out from behind this thread and contribute anything meaningful to any other topic on this board. It seems, as you have bragged, are well traveled and experienced in backpacking. Maybe you should consider relaying some of that information and insight gained to other people on the board rather than waving about over your head for all others to bow down to.
roseymonster
6:00:07 PM
1/17/02

You still haven't answered centavo's question about how you were able to crap in the car. I've been intrigued too. I can't imagine sitting in the car to do it. Did you roll down the window and perch on the ledge?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Weren’t you afraid that someone would come along while your pants were down and notice that you have no balls?
Violin
9:53:44 AM
1/18/02

D@mn, I spent so much time discussing the meaning of liberal and conservative with arclite, that I totally missed this thread. This is real entertainment.
chili36
10:00:09 AM
1/18/02

Let's jump start this thread again. I wanna see 1,000 posts.

I'll start: If a hiker sh!ts in your car cause you got a dog, is it ok to sh!t in his camp cause he ain't got one? And what about the p!ss on your seat?
steve hiker
8:51:21 PM
1/29/02

Let's jump start this thread again. I wanna see 1,000 posts.

I'll start: If a hiker sh!ts in your car cause you got a dog, is it ok to sh!t in his camp cause he ain't got one? And what about the p!ss on your seat?
steve hiker
9:47:52 PM
1/29/02

No, let me start
If dog owners exaggerate the discipline of their dogs, and anti-dog-on-trails hikers exaggerate their negative experiences with dogs, will there ever be an end to this thread?
Dunadan
9:55:04 PM
1/29/02

Has it reached 1000?
HellOOOOooooo?!
heh!
gojo
10:57:06 AM
1/30/02

Let's really liven this one up.

I have the right to take my dog with me and my dog has the right to chase wildlife.

I have the right to shoot (with my Uzi I carry while hiking) anyone who doesn't like it!
gordon
12:54:27 PM
1/30/02

It is a dogs life.
Who needs to exaggerate?
bacpac
12:59:12 PM
1/30/02

I make my dog carry some of my load -- specifically my stove fuel. I see no point in making my dog carry the extra weight on the last day, so I dump my extra stove fuel into the nearest creek where nature carries it away.
gordon
2:12:34 PM
1/30/02

Hmmmmmm.......
How can we get you carried away, gordy?
gojo
2:17:56 PM
1/30/02

LOL @ gordon. Do you also let the creek carry away your other liquid wastes? You know, the ones Marvin Gardins would rather you recycle?
skullcap
3:32:39 PM
1/30/02

I like dogs. I hate a**holes.
smiley girl
3:42:26 PM
1/30/02

What about DOGS W/A**SHOLES?
steve hiker
4:20:30 PM
1/30/02

I hate my dogs @sshole, rather I hate what comes out. How can 2 dogs (total weight around 120lbs) create so much crap?
birch
9:16:37 PM
1/30/02

LOL!!!
steve hiker
9:28:08 PM
1/30/02

Ain't that the truth Birch!!! I have one 40lbs crappin maacheen. I do dukey recons in the yard about every week. I have amast a nice surplus. Almost all of it gets turn into the beds or composted. On occassions when in the front yard, I like to lob them into the street ala Sampras style. Freakin dog!
Briar Rabbit
9:43:02 PM
1/30/02

WeDumpJustAsMuchIfNotMoreThanDogsDo(GetIt,DoggyDo)
I dunno... between my side and Buddur's side of the yard, I'd have to say I put out just about as much as he does.
Buddur
10:15:13 PM
1/30/02

I swear my dogs put out more than they take in.

I especially hate Spring thaw. When the snow melts I find about 4 months worth of surprises in the yard.
gordon
10:51:59 PM
1/30/02

Budder, all I can imagine is you squattin' in the yard with the morning paper! LOL!
nigal
11:53:06 PM
1/30/02

LMAO @ birch, Briar Rabbit, and Buddur. Scooby didn't like crapping in the yard and would usually hold it for our twice daily walks. We live near a University and her deposition points of preference were next to the football field and on the front lawn of the honors dorm. I always thought that was quite fair-minded of her, LOL!
skullcap
6:02:48 AM
1/31/02

This is a pretty sh@tty subject guy's LOL!
centavo
6:07:36 AM
1/31/02

In the spirit of this thread I'll tell a little story.

The next door neighbors in the house I was born in had a dog that they used to walk in our yard to 'do it's business' behind a hedge row that was planted as a place for our dog to go. It frustrated my father because he had to clean up behind two dogs.

When I was 5 years old my friend from down the street and I decided it was time to teach them a lesson and we both squatted in their front yard and 'pinched a loaf' in broad daylight. I still remember the look on the girls faces who road by on their bicycles.
Violin
9:25:22 AM
1/31/02

road rode
Violin
9:26:21 AM
1/31/02

My dog goes out into the field to crap, never in the yard. The cat does it in the flower gardens or the sandbox or wherever is close and not frozen hard.
le Subtil
11:32:53 AM
1/31/02

such a good thread, once, now it's down to this....
Dunadan
8:15:12 AM
2/01/02

It always degenerates to poo-poo jokes, doesn't it?
Violin
8:30:57 AM
2/01/02

Hey you Whimps!!!
Am I gonna have to get SGT HARTMAN in here to demoralize all of you??? This thread hasn't even hit 400, yet!
Dunadan
4:32:09 PM
2/01/02

Yeah, where's willk? He's probably out on the trail, or the trailhead. And he ain't gonna like Hartman's dog AT ALL.
steve hiker
5:03:59 PM
2/01/02

SGT HARTMAN comes back to his car after a messy run-in with willk on the trail, opens the door, and
steve hiker
5:05:22 PM
2/01/02

Boom Boom, out go the lights!!!
Dunadan
5:15:36 PM
2/01/02

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