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parable?
A wise holyman was on "pilgrimage" begging for food and shelter on his vast journey. He is approached by a massive warrior who says "Kneel before me and pay me homage!"
Well the holyman is wise and bends to his knee and bows before the warrior. The warrior says "You know, I could lop your head off with one blow."
To which the holyman replies "You know, I could let you."
limpy
12:47:33 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
When I saw the title of this thread, I thought maybe it had to do with something I've been wondering about.

Wasn't there something in the Bible (or some other prophesy) that said the end of the world would come with some great holy war in the Middle East involving the great powers of the world?

I haven't heard anything about this lately. Has anyone?
lizs
2:44:51 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Lizs.. in the book of Revelation, John refers to what he sees as the end of time where the content describes Gog and Magog.. and uses references to the EAGLE and the BEAR.. talks about 4 major countries fighting.. talks about deaths so numerous that the rivers run as red as blood.. talks about fire form the sky and utter devastation.
TownDawg
3:26:41 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Maybe we could just add another drop of paranoia to the the schizophrenic pond . . .
newgirl
4:03:27 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Ever since that prophecy was written people have speculated that a war that was going on was that great war. And so far it has not happened. Now I am not saying that this is not it, but dont jump to conclusions. Just trust in God every thing will work out accorcing to his will
adventuregirl
4:22:29 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
For the record, I am not stating that the recent events are the end of time doomsday war.. I was just repsonding to Lizs who asked, "Wasn't there something ... that said the end of the world would come ... involving the great powers of the world?"
TownDawg
4:26:58 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
TownDawg, I wasn't trying to imply that you are spreading fear and paranoia. Just making a comment on everyone's general mood and doomsdayers that are sure to pop up.
newgirl
4:30:13 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Thanks newgirl.. :)

I just figured since I actauly /do/ go to church, I might stand up and act like it?..

*giggle*
TownDawg
4:35:08 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
I am neither paranoid nor passive. I do believe we should discuss, though

newgirl, if you are really in college be prepared to debate a lot of meaningless stuff
Temprat
4:37:45 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Yeah, ditto Temprat. It's out there. Discuss it. I didn't say the world would end tomorrow or the near future. And thank you TownDawg. As a non-practicing Lutheran, I just couldn't put my fingertips on what the prophesy was, but I sure thought there was something in the Bible about it.
lizs
4:40:35 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Education: takes empty minds and makes them open
Temprat
4:41:48 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Doesn't anyone realize this is all a fake?

The U.S. government covered up the Kennedy assassination by the FBI, covered up Roswell, and faked the moon landing. Can you PROVE the attack really took place?
gordon
5:07:25 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Temprat, I really am in college and I am open to discussion of lots of stupid things (why do you think I visit TT?). We sure can discuss this end of the world prophecy, it has some interesting details, I was just commenting (as I mentioned to TownDawg) on the general paranoid mood of America and the world at the moment and the doomsdayers who take advantage of that. That is all. I am not trying to start a nit-pick fight w/ Lizs for asking or TownDawg for answering.
newgirl
5:08:09 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Gordon: sorry still not a thing to joke about for me yet.

Lizs: No problem.. hope that helped. It you are really interested wuld be glad to give you more info.

Temprat: wow, so cynical today.. someone piss in your cheerios?

Newgirl: so good to see you around again. :)
TownDawg
5:16:13 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
There's another angle nobody has touched on. Humans may be about to destroy themselves and give way to a more advanced, human-alien hybrid race that the alien beings have been creating for the past half century.

One abductee, Peter, was on a UFO when the aliens showed him images of "nuclear explosions, sections of Europe and the United States destroyed, a lot of people burned, a lot of people upset ... the human race changing its form and texture." Peter and the (alien) woman and the thousands of babies they had produced together were "part of that change, of the repopulation of the earth."

When asked why this repopulation was necessary, Peter replied "because of the destruction of the earth, because of what's happening, what's going to happen."

That time could be now or in the very near future.
steve hiker
5:42:37 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Temprat is a troll.
steve hiker
5:43:16 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
It does seem as though we are taking the path we allowed someone to dictate to us.
Are they letting us?
flyguy6x
5:53:41 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
hallucinate
desegregate
mediate
alleviate
try not to hate
love your mate
don't suffocate
on your own hate
designate
you love as fate
a one world state
as human freight
the number eight
a white black state
a gentle trait
the broken crate
a heavy weight
or just too late
like pretty kate
has sex ornate
now devastate
appreciate
depreciate
fabricate
emulate
the truth dilate
special date
the animal we ate
guilt debate
the edge serrate
a better rate
the youth irate
deliberate
fascinate
devastate
reinstate
liberate
too moderate
recreate
or detonate
annihilate
atomic fate
mediate
clear the slate
activate
now radiate
a perfect state
food on plate
gravitate
the earth's own weight
designate
your love as fate
at ninety-eight we all rotate
hallucinate
desegregate
mediate
alleviate
try not to hate
love your mate
don't suffocate
on your own hate
designate
your love as fate
a one world state
as human freight
the number eight
a white black state
a gentle trait
the broken crate
a heavy weight
or just too late
like pretty kate
has sex ornate
now devastate
appreciate
depreciate
fabricate
emulate
the truth dilate
special date
the animals we ate
guilt debate
the edge serrate
a better rate
the youth irate
deliberate
fascinate
deviate
reinstate
liberate
kleetn
6:22:44 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Towndawg and lizs I too was not acusing you of being paranoid, I only stated what I stated for the value of the trailtalk comunity
adventuregirl
7:07:53 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Thanks Kleety! I miss INXS.
lizs
8:28:52 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
steve hiker - now you have really gone off the deep end...
OmaHiker
10:14:30 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Just trust in God every thing will work out accorcing to his will
adventuregirl
9/17/01

Which God? The one that the terrorists trust?
Spock
10:21:41 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Yeah, OmaHiker we wondered about him before!!! Now...... I THINK HE'S AN ALIEN!!! He keeps going after new gals on TT so he can REPRODUCE!! (shhhhhhh! don't tell the Enquirer!!)
lizs
10:30:54 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
adventuregirl - FWIW, here's a point of reference:

"I am the Lord, and there is no other;
Besides Me there is no God.
I will gird you, though you have not known Me;
That men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun
That there is no one besides Me.
I am the Lord, and there is no other"

That would be Jehovah God speaking to king Cyrus in Isaiah 45:5-6.
tekapo
11:23:47 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Liz, God told him to go forth and multiply...
stanlee
11:45:46 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
null
Chey
11:49:59 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Didn't God say "go forth and be fruitful"?" Maybe he's too *fruit*ful.
Spock
11:53:09 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
The ALIEN god!
lizs
11:57:22 PM
9/17/01

RE: parable?
Check out Ezekiel 38-39 for another view of the big war to come - sounds quite nuclear. But in Rev. the woman (Isreal) is carried on eagles wings (your guess). Some think the U.S. is on the side of the good guys.
toejam
8:21:16 AM
9/18/01

RE: parable?
Smoke on the water......
.....and fire in the sky
Livin' in the day of the eagle
Eagle.....not the dove!
Tom Terrific
8:27:15 AM
9/18/01

RE: parable?
I apoligize for confusion. I was refering to the God that is refrenced to in the Bible. now for more confusion. I was just discussing this with some people. Is this the same God that mulims believe in? There are many refrences in the Koran that do not sound like my God. Yet Muslims believe in the God Abraham Isaac and Jacob, which is the same God of the Christian and the Jew. Its all really weird. I hold to the Christian veiwpoint, in that Jesus Christ, Gods one and only son died for my sins. He then three days later rose from the grave. Anyway I hope that this clarifys things. Religion is confusing, and Im sorry if I confused anyone.
adventuregirl
11:11:25 AM
9/18/01

RE: parable?
"I put on a Hendrix album and my son said, 'Daddy, who's that?' and I said, 'Well son, that's God'"

--Robert Plant, also trying to clarify the true identity of God.
kleetn
11:36:06 AM
9/18/01

RE: parable?
Adventuregirl, the god of Islam and the G-d of the Jews and Christians is the same G-d but uses one of the many different names. Same G-d, just different doctrin. When Abraham?s wife Sarah couldn?t have children, Abraham had a child with Sarah?s bondswoman Hagar. Then later Sarah did have a baby Isaac. Sarah had Abraham send Hagar and her son away so Isaac would be the firstborn heir of Abraham. In Gen 21:12-13 G-d told Abraham that Isaac was to be his seed and G-d then told him that, ?And also of the son of the bondswoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.? And in verse 18 He goes on to tell her, ?Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thin hand; for I will make him a great nation.?

There are many parallels between Islam and Judaism. True Muslims are as peaceable as the Jews and Christians.
Nigal
11:37:12 AM
9/18/01

RE: parable?
There is but one God and his name is Caffeine.

Whew...is it getting warm in here?
kleetn
11:42:19 AM
9/18/01

RE: parable?
The "God" of the Bible was "gods" in the original language, but was changed to the singular by religious leaders to promote monotheism. I think the "gods" originally referred to were the aliens who came from "the heavens" (in crafts) and created us "in their image" by mixing their DNA with early earth hominids or apes.
steve hiker
1:32:48 PM
9/18/01

RE: parable?
Steve, I love ya' man, but this is getting weird. Real, real weird.
newgirl
3:51:28 PM
9/18/01

RE: parable?
You think that's weird? Steve is an alien and has 3 weenies!
kleetn
3:54:38 PM
9/18/01

RE: parable?
Steve - Interesting point of view. Creative.

In the book of Job (the oldest book in the Bible), the Aramaic word "Eloah" is used to identify the singular personal pronoun of God himself and "elohim" (the plural 'gods') is often found elsewhere thoughout the Old Testament to describe the false gods worshipped by others. I believe Aramaic is the oldest known language. Someone may refute or verify that.

Incidentally, the cognant form of 'elah'(an apparent derivative of Eloah) is 'allah,' the Arab designate name of God.

Also, in Genesis the first apparent mention of the identity of God appears where He declares to Abraham, I AM "el sadday," or translated "God Almighty."

It's lunch time. Gotta get back to work..
tekapo
4:13:53 PM
9/18/01

RE: parable?
Kleetn, I always welcome your very mature and clearly stated posts. I really like the way you carefully consider each post and then reply in a precise and meaningful way.


I'm just being silly and sarcastic here. You are makin' me laugh pretty hard.
newgirl
4:19:18 PM
9/18/01

RE: parable?
Parables (often) have underlying meanings. This thread never had a chance. It was "degenerated" from the "git-go."
limpy
4:21:26 PM
9/18/01

RE: parable?
I amwaiting for someone to provide absolute proof that there is a GOD. And until then, steve hiker's theory is just as plausible.
Spock
11:15:25 PM
9/18/01

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