NRA terrorists

“You gotta be kidding. No one remembers anything you say. Forfeit? You lost this argument a long time ago. We are just enjoying the melt down.”

“45 states agree that the second amendment grants the right to the individual to own firearms.

States With Right To Bear Arms Provisions In Alphabetical Order:


Alabama Constitution Article I, Section 26

That the great, general and essential principles of liberty and free government may be recognized and established, we declare... That every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state.


Alaska Constitution Article I, Section 19

A well- regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The individual right to keep and bear arms shall not be denied or infringed by the State or a political subdivision of the State.


Arizona Constitution, Article 2, Section 26

The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself or the State shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain, or employ an armed body of men.


Arkansas Constitution Article II, Section 5

The citizens of this State shall have the right to keep and bear arms for their common defense.


Colorado Constitution Article II, Section 13

The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question; but nothing herein contained shall be construed to justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons.


Connecticut Constitution Article I, Section 15

Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state.


Delaware Constitution Article I, Section 20

A person has the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of self, family, home and State, and for hunting and recreational use.


Florida Constitution Article I, Section 8(a)

The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed, except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law.

Georgia Constitution Article I, Section 1, Paragraph VIII.

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, but the General Assembly shall have power to prescribe the manner in which arms may be borne.

Hawaii Constitution Article I, Section 17

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


Idaho Constitution Article I, Section 11

The people have the right to keep and bear arms, which right shall not be abridged; but this provision shall not prevent the passage of laws to govern the carrying of weapons concealed on the person nor prevent passage of legislation providing minimum sentences for crimes committed while in possession of a firearm, nor prevent the passage of legislation providing penalties for the possession of firearms by a convicted felon, nor prevent the passage of any legislation punishing the use of a firearm. No law shall impose licensure, registration or special taxation on the ownership or possession of firearms or ammunition. Nor shall any law permit the confiscation of firearms, except those actually used in the commission of a felony.


Illinois Constitution Article I, Section 22

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


Indiana Constitution Article I, Section 32

The people shall have a right to bear arms, for the defense of themselves and the State.


Kansas Constitution Bill of Rights 4

The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security; but standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and shall not be tolerated, and the military shall be in strict subordination to the civil power.


Kentucky Constitution Section 1

All men are, by nature, free and equal, and have certain inherent and inalienable rights, among which may be reckoned: ... Seventh: The right to bear arms in defense of themselves and of the State, subject to the power of the General Assembly to enact laws to prevent persons from carrying concealed weapons.


Louisiana Constitution Article I, Section 11

The right of each citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged, but this provision shall not prevent the passage of laws to prohibit the carrying of weapons concealed on the person.


Maine Constitution Article 1, Section 16

Every citizen has a right to keep and bear arms and this right shall never be questioned.


Massachusetts Constitution Part The First, Article XVII

The people have a right to keep and to bear arms for the common defence. And as, in time of peace, armies are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be maintained without the consent of the legislature; and the military power shall always be held in an exact subordination to the civil authority, and be governed by it.


Michigan Constitution Article I, Section 6

Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state.


Mississippi Constitution Article III, Section 12

The right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but the legislature may regulate or forbid carrying concealed weapons.


Missouri Constitution Article I, Section 23

That the right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or when lawfully summoned in aid of the civil power, shall not be questioned; but this shall not justify the wearing of concealed weapons.


Montana Constitution Article II, Section 12

The right of any person to keep or bear arms in defense of his own home, person, and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but nothing herein contained shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons.

Montana Constitution Article VI, Section 13(2)

The militia forces shall consist of all able-bodied citizens of the state except those exempted by law.


Nebraska Constitution Article I, Section 1

All persons are by nature free and independent, and have certain inherent and inalienable rights; among these are life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the right to keep and bear arms for security or defense of self, family, home, and others, and for lawful common defense, hunting, recreational use, and all other lawful purposes, and such rights shall not be denied or infringed by the state or any subdivision thereof. To secure these rights, and the protection of property, governments are instituted among people, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.


Nevada Constitution Article 1, Section 11, [1.]

Every citizen has the right to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes.


New Hampshire Constitution Part First, Article 2-a

All persons have the right to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves, their families, their property and the state.

New Hampshire Constitution Part First, Article 13

No person, who is conscientiously scrupulous about the lawfulness of bearing arms, shall be compelled thereto.


New Mexico Constitution Article II, Section 6

No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms.


North Carolina Constitution Article I, Section 30

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; and, as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty. they shall not be maintained, and the military shall be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power. Nothing herein shall justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons, or prevent the General Assembly from enacting penal statutes against that practice.


North Dakota Constitution Article I, Section 1

All individuals are by nature equally free and independent and have certain inalienable rights, among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty; acquiring, possessing and protecting property and reputation; pursuing and obtaining safety and happiness; and to keep and bear arms for the defense of their person, family, property, and the state, and for lawful hunting, recreational and other lawful purposes, which shall not be infringed.


Ohio Constitution Article I, Section 4

The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security; but standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and shall not be kept up; and the military shall be in strict subordination to the civil power.

Ohio Constitution Article I, Section 1

All men are, by nature, free and independent, and have certain inalienable rights, among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and seeking and obtaining happiness and safety.


Oklahoma Constitution Article II, Section 26

The right of a citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power, when thereunto legally summoned, shall never be prohibited; but nothing herein contained shall prevent the Legislature from regulating the carrying of weapons.


Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power[.]


Pennsylvania Constitution Article I, Section 21

The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.


Rhode Island Constitution Article I, Section 22

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


South Carolina Constitution Article I, Section 20

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. As, in times of peace, armies are dangerous to liberty, they shall not be maintained without the consent of the General Assembly. The military power of the State shall always be held in subordination to the civil authority and be governed by it. No soldier shall in time of peace be quartered in any house without the consent of the owner nor in time of war but in the manner prescribed by law.


South Dakota Constitution Article VI, Section 24

The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the state shall not be denied.


Tennessee Constitution Article I, Section 26

That the citizens of this State have a right to keep and to bear arms for their common defense; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms with a view to prevent crime.


Texas Constitution Article I, Section 23

Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.


Utah Constitution Article I, Section 6

The individual right of the people to keep and bear arms for security and defense of self, family, others, property, or the state, as well as for other lawful purposes shall not be infringed; but nothing herein shall prevent the Legislature from defining the lawful use of arms.


Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State - and as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power.


Virginia Constitution Article I, Section 13

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.


Washington Constitution Article I, Section 24

The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.


West Virginia Constitution Article III, Section 22

A person has the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of self, family, home and state, and for lawful hunting and recreational use.


Wisconsin Constitution Article I, Section 25

The people have the right to keep and bear arms for security, defense, hunting, recreation or any other lawful purpose.


Wyoming Constitution Article I, Section 24

The right of citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and of the state shall not be denied.”

“That works”

“I thin we have a winner, thanks humanpackmule.

Final Score:
Us 1,
Spock 0”

“Apparently Spock has never gone to buy a gun in America. If all the purchase forms and other hoops the citizen (aka the Militia to our Founding Fathers) must accede to don't constitute "well-regulated," in addition to all the court decisions and legal interpretations he refuses to read or acknowledge, well we already know "facts" aren't something he finds any affinity with.

He may think he's yanking our chain, but so does a barking dog tied up too long in the hot sun.

Yank away Spock. Just don't be surprised that you're choking on your own yanking.”

“isn't there some kind of S&M that involves that?”

“WOW!
Another gun thread......barf!

I'm not gonna bother reading all this nausea, nauseum, nauseatus.....

But the chokin' stuff sounds interesting.”

“Take that, ya long-eared varmit!
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“Time check!”

“Where is Spock. I get to missing him after a while. He does make things very interesting, ey?”

“Just returned home to Seattle today on a nearly empty 777. SOOOO tired and weary...will catch up in the coming days.”

“What?...Is the Enterprise grounded again?”

“Nah, the transporter wasn't working properly.”

“Welcome home Beave. 8)”

“Take your time”

“So...was yer 5-year mission successful?”

“Did you boldly go where no man has gone before?”

“All of you gun freaks buy guns. Buy lots of guns. Buy lots and lots of guns. But! Please stay in the USA!!!”

“I think he is returning from his fictitious trip to Korea to his real life at Mom's house.”

“where does bunyip live?”

“What is the meaning of IS? What is the meaning of the words WELL REGULATED?

Gimme a break Clinton/Spock.”

“Rad, Bunyip probably lives in the turd, oops I mean third, world.”

“Fact of the matter IS: the NRA IS a terrorist organization by its actions. The NRA threatens lawmakers with blackmail, and it holds the country hostage to its agenda. And insults from childish minds such as BaSO4 only prove the irresponsibility of gunowners. There's no reason you can't defend yourself with a stun gun instead of a fatal bullet... unless of course you are obsessed with killing others.”

“Neanderthals Re-taahhdds & Apes”

“Rather ironic how Mr. "Politically Correct" Tom T finds "retard" to be an acceptable insult for someone he doesn't like. That is a very derogatory term for a person with a developmental disability, such as my son or Phil's daughter.”

“I'm the NRA and I'm proud of the way they represent me.
So am I a neanderthal or a retard or ape?”

“Le Subtil, you belong to a terrorist network. You can be sure that many Arabs are also just as proud of the way bin Laden represent them.”

“Hmmm, not sure dude.
I send you and aptitude test.

Oh hell, don't go gettin' your a$$ all up in the air.

I like the way the NRA represents you to, oh subtle one.

Me politically correct???
No way!
I have my own opinions.
Those who toe the NRA line may themselves be politically correct in a right-wing kind of way.

When Charlatan Hisssss-ton puts out his nasty edicts some of you guys snap to attention......achtung baby!!!”

“Whoa, Spock!!!
They're gonna send you back to Star Fleet Academy if you don't knock off that sh!t.

But you Vulcans can take any of those gun-totin' sissies without breakin' a sweat........
.......I don't suppose there'd be a whole lotta "mind-melding" with those NRA zombies though.”

“Superior logic wins every time. I don't need some big gun to feel protected. I feel sorry (NOT!) for these rabid paranoid gun-toters who must feel terrified every time they must go somewhere without their gun.”

“Some of these "gunners" are a bit 'round the bend.

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“The NRA is a terrorist network my hairy a$$. Ask the people in N.Y. what a real terrorist is you offspring of a anal retentive camel. Start living in the real world.”

“BTW I find the use of ?retard? offensive and I apologize for even repeating it. I have 2 neighbours with Downs and they?re sweetheart kids I love almost as my own. A slang term for their unfortunate condition isn?t proper insult.

Neanderthal, I kinda like. In high school I was one of the ?cavemen?, the name our clique (I hate that word too) earned somehow. It had something to do with a poorly lit hallway...”

“Oh get over it!

When some one uses the word "bastard" are you going to "bleed" for all the unwanted or fatherless children?”

“Yes, there are gun nuts.

Yes, they would logically gravitate toward the NRA.

Yes, there are people out there who would strip me of my rights and have me making tennis shoes at gunpoint. We live with historically unprecedented freedom and you know this is true.

I fear the latter far more.”

“Ok, I'll just be sure never to use my gun to protect Spook or Tom.”

“I like knowing that the cops in my county are out-gunned 1000 to one. I also like knowing that our military, too, is far out-gunned by our citizens.

That way, we don't have to worry about some Tal Aban (?) type of situation occuring here in the good 'ol U S of A. From my perspective, that's what our Constitutional right to own firearms is all about - always has been, always will be...

The framers of our Constitution were smarter than we may sometimes think.”

“"The NRA threatens lawmakers with blackmail, and it holds the country hostage to its agenda"...well...I guess by that definition the AMA,AFL-CIO,Teamsters,NAACP,AARP and GLAD and any lobbyist would be a terrorist. I mean EVERY SINGLE lobbyist threatens the elected by withholding $$$ for lack of support and by forcing their agenda. Ralph Nader...nader pin and seatbelts. MADD lowered blood alcohol standards for DUI's. Hand Gun Control Inc...Brady Bills I & II. So my clingon friend you are full of pooh-pooh! That dog won't hunt !!!!!”

“The framers of our Constitution were smarter than we may sometimes think.
gojo
10/4/01

Hate to tell you this gojo, but the framers of our Constitution were people like Ben Franklin who owned slaves, and Thomas Jefferson who screwed his female slave. These were the people who brought trouble in the name of Africans to our land. NOT SO SMART. Also, we aren't that far from a Taliban type situation...it's called right wing Republicans/Jerry Falwell.”

“Go ahead & make excuses Tom T for using an offensive slur. It just points out the hypocrisy of your attacks on lipstick hiker for being a "racist." I have never seen her use the n-word. Being the parent of a young man with a developmental disability, I am particularly sensitive to the word "retard" used as a general insult. As a group, the mentally retarded have been victimized and denied civil rights to a much greater extent than any racial or ethnic minority, and they have much less capacity to defend themselves, which makes those who disrespect and victimize them the worst sort of bigots.”

“Spock you are right. Ole Tom and Ben were morons.Have you ever read the drivel they wrote...BORING. I mean who are they fooling with such worn out ideas like, self-determination,self-governance,a constitutionally limited government. Those guys are really overrated. Obviously they just stole ideas from DeToqueville(sp?) ,got drunk and scribbled out some ramblings on some buckskin and SHAZAMM America was born.

And you are correct on the point that they owned slaves. Hell,America invented slavery. NO ONE on earth had slaves before us or since.Those big @ss pyramids in Egypt...built by union masons,Taj Mahal same union as the pyramid guys,Great wall of China...selfless patriots,Rome...school kids on a community service project,Incan pyramids and cities...built by a group of Rotarians and Lions clubs members.”

“I used to manage a group home for the mentally disabled and I couldn't agree with you more Omahiker. I have a lot of respect for parents that continue to assure a good quality of life for their children. Many just dump them in a home and see them on Christmas and Thanksgiving.”

“Ben Franklin owned slaves??? What a hypocrite to live in PA (a free state) and be the head of the Abolitionist Society of PA and still own slaves. What next? Dolly Madison is a terrorist because she started a company that makes Ding Dongs and those can kill you.

I just love revisionist history!”

“Spock is just a small minded twit who can't even fake a trip to Korea. He sees the NRA as some sort of Demigod instead of the millions of patriotic Americans who are the NRA. The NRA speaks for me and millions of other Americans. Spock speaks only for himself.

Spock fears the NRA, but the NRA is not a sham like he is.”

“History books have long recognized that Benjamin Franklin represented many things throughout his lifetime. Not only was he an inventor, printer and publisher, but he was also one of the instrumental parties present at the signing of the Declaration of Independence, where he announced that "we must all hang together, or most assuredly we will all hang separately." It was Franklin's intent to promote colonial unity and utilize his writing talents as a means by which to reach the masses. His strong belief in education and opportunity for all was matched only by his diplomatic attributes in helping various entities come to agreement without having to resort to hostilities. Inasmuch as he harbored a love for literature and the written word that ultimately spurred him on to opening the first privately supported lending library in the United States, as well as helped to establish the University of Pennsylvania. His research was instrumental in bringing about such discoveries as electrical current and bifocal eyeglasses. He is loved by historians, remembered by academics, and studied by college students everywhere.

Don't know the source but it sounded good Cal”

“In spite of the fact that he owned slaves himself, as was common with plantation owners of his time, Jefferson spoke out tirelessly throughout his life against the institution of slavery and for the right of black people to be free. Apparently there were many factors, financial, social and political, that prevented him from freeing his own slaves. In a letter to Edward Coles (Aug 25, 1814), he wrote, "The laws do not permit us to turn them loose, if that were for their good." To Edward Bancroft he wrote (in 1788), "As far as I can judge from the experiments which have been made, to give liberty to, or rather to abandon persons whose habits have been formed in slavery is like abandoning children." (ME 19:41) Thus, he seems to have sincerely believed that merely freeing the slaves was not the best solution, and that the most important step to take was the elimination of the real source of this injustice, which was the institution of slavery itself. Thus he wrote to Edward Rutledge (in 1787), "I congratulate you, my dear friend, on the law of your State, for suspending the importation of slaves, and for the glory you have justly acquired by endeavoring to prevent it forever. This abomination must have an end. And there is a superior bench reserved in heaven for those who hasten it." (ME 6:173) His overall solution to the slavery problem was to return the blacks to their own African homeland or to some land where they could live as "a free and independent people," and to provide them with implements and skills to establish their own nation.”

“Um spock, I have an observation. BTW, I do not own a gun and have no plans to own one, but I nothing against law abiding gun owners. If one felt the need to protect them selves, a gun allows them to do it at a considerable distance. A stun gun pretty much requires close proximity. I did not grow up in downtown large USA city, and pretty much am unaquainted with the perils of crime. That leaves in poor posotion to judge those who feel a need to protect themselves. Had I lived there, I suspect I'd probably want to carry a "Dirty Harry 45" to scare the bad guy off. And if scaring him off didn't work, the trigger would.”

“Spock -
So what are you doing about today's slavery situation by which so many Africans are affected?”

“Fractured Fairy Tales and Fractured Logic

sigh.. Ben Franklin was a slave owner??? The NRA is the equivalent of Ben Laden???

With facts and logic like that, I wish Spock was arguing for the NRA.”

“As I get older, and hopefully wiser, I come to care as much about reasoned arguments with thoughtful use of facts, as I do about the opinions being supported.”