The Clinton Presidency and the WTC

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ADT...American Discovery Trail
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BMT...Benton McCaye Trail
BRT...Buffalo River Trail
BT....Bartram Trail, or
BT....Buckeye Trail
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Politicks?

whazzat?”

“Helllllll-oooooooo, Osama, how are YOU today?
I just love your fashion sense, ya fudge-packer!

I have not heard any liberals or Democrats WISHING that Gore won the election......................................................................................................................because he DID win the election!

I can't think of a more worthy opponent for O-Slamma Big Llama than "Curious" George Bush.

I think its a valid point that the loyal opposition has pretty much left Bush to his own devices.

It is equally valid to assume that, had Gore gotten into the White House(he did after all WIN), the minions of the Right would be on his A$$ like stank on sh!t and blaming HIM for this sorry incident.”

“We are blaming him.:)”

“Why can't we blame Harry Truman?”

“It's dem devil-worshipin' Republicrats!

Support campaign finance reform!

(if it EVER comes up for a vote again in our lifetimes)”

“Amen, Big Daddy!”

“Ain't you yokels read what the NRA says about campaign finance reform? Sheesh.”

“Financial Support Reform Campaign for politicians, you mean. And republicans don't devil worship.”

“The devil, you say!”

“da Debel!

Where have you gone Flip Wilson?
A nation turns it's lonely eyes to you

Woo Woo Woo”

“"he sold his soul to the devil!"

"TO THE DEVIL?!?!?!?"

"TO THE DEVIL!!!!!!!"”

“Please Allah, help me to plug my ears from this talk of bealzibub!”

“Lighten up arclite, it was humor.

Need a tissue?”

“No thanks GS, I got too much tissue as it is.

Humor? You call that humor, GS? How can you call that dimwitted diatribe humor? You been hangin' out with Tom T. at the funny farm haven't you?”

“my previous point is self-evident, in this time of tragedy, it's counterproductive to blame clinton or anyone else; we should concentrate on recovery and healing. i'm hardly a clinton apologist, he's a moral quagmire, but he did have successes in his presidency. i feel he is not to blame for WTC; he authorized, secretly, the assassination of bin ladin, he authorized the training of pakistanis to track him down, pres. gen. musharraf dissallowed cooperation or airspace. clinton was left with no choice but to lob some cruise missles. The world, or the US, did not get mad enough when our embassies and the Cole were bombed to create an international coalition to combat terrorism a few years ago. clinton would've done more if he could.
ultimately, the only people to blame are the terrorists- to put blame on presidents, cia or fbi is incredulous and delusive. now, let's talk about hiking.”

“IIRC, what happened was the operation was set to go and then suddenly the president of Pakistan gets overthrown in a coup. (Bonus points to Clinton-haters who can make the coup part of the vast Clintonian conspiracy.)”

“jmitch, If you are going to defend Clinton at least get the facts straight.”

“tehipite, I can agree with yuo. there are ALWAYS conditions and circumstances that us common Joes don't know about.”

“I thought it was the Clinton lovers who dreamed up this Clinton Conspiracy stuff. The Clinton haters call it the truth.”

“my facts are right, as reported by newsweek and the nyt (sorry for omitting the previous pakistani prime minister was overthrown, regardless, clinton couldn't get approval for any operation) none of us know all of the facts or circumstances, so why pass blame? let's be objective and fair. bacpac, your dislike for clinton may be understandable, but to insinuate that clinton is to blame for the attacks is unreasonable. ps- does anyone know any good trails in the catskills?”

“No”

“And jmitch, I didn't mean to say you were wrong--just to add some context to what you were saying.

But boy, you sure started a fight with that last comment...everybody knows the only good trails are west of the 100th meridian. ;-)”

“no problem; sadly, my life has been constrained to east of chicago. someday i'll see yosemite, crater lake, glacier, et al, places i only read about. i really want to see a snowcapped mountain.”

“Keep dreaming, jmitch. I am sure you will see all those things. Was it Hillary that would not give Bill Clinton permission to go after Bin Laden?”

“bacpac, you are a gem when it comes to debating skills. I mean, after all, you have "walked the walk".”

“What? bacpac's been President?”

“i'd vote for him”

“Bacpac, you better get a move on! First you have to become governor, or a high level cabinet member. Then you have to go to about 8000 fundraising dinners. You have a lot of fun ahead. Play nice with the other kiddies!”

“.....and you have to shag a mess o' interns and campaign workers.

Yes and it was Hillary who gave Wild Willy permission TO go after all those women.”

“Dunadan, I don't consider this to be a debate. This is just Clinton appologists who make up the facts just like they make up excuses.”

“Tom T., I not sure but I think that bacpac would be a REPUBLICAN president.”

“If I were President I would terrorize liberals.

Osama bin bacpac”

“tisk, tisk, no playing nice for bacpac.”

“What's being a Republican got to do with shaggin' strange women?

Rudy Guliani may be a lot ot things to a lot of people, but he proved beyond a doubt that Republicans can and will commit adultery too!”

“Yeah, adultery is bad no matter which party they belong to. And Rudy had a beautiful, successful wife. Women have a hard time understanding stuff like that.”

“Male interns aren't safe with Republicans in office.”

“The only innovative thing Clinton did in office was that cigar trick w/Monica.”

“Are you a cigar smoker?
Do you prefer White Owls?”

“And the congressional leaks continue! It has not been leaked to the press the secret location where Chaney is being secreted away where no one will find him?






















...at a Toronto Blue Jays game!”

“THAT'S Clinton's fault!”

“bacpac, Minister of Silly Walks, said: "This is just Clinton appologists who make up the facts just like they make up excuses."

Please identify those facts in the previous posts that you consider allege someone made up. Unless, that is, you're too busy walking whatever walk it is you claim to walk.”

“Cheney had a coronary when everything blew up. He was positioned heavily into airline stocks to take advantage of cheap oil, *G*.”

“tehipite, Clinton did not authorize the assasination of Bin Laden. Clinton was not waiting for permission to get Bin Laden.”

“Wow, I get home and Mr. Factoid hasn't posted a rebuttal? I would like to take a walk with Tehipite. A short walk.”

“From Newsweek:

In 1998, President Clinton signed a ?lethal finding,? in effect holding the CIA harmless if bin Laden was killed in a covert operation. The agency tried for at least two years to hunt down bin Laden, working with Afghan rebels opposed to the Taliban regime.

And, even though you asked, here's an excerpt from a 10/3/01 AP article referring to the effect of the coup in Pakistan:

As part of U.S. efforts to hunt down bin Laden in the interim, the CIA (news - web sites) is said to have secretly trained about 60 Pakistani intelligence officers to capture him in 1999.

The operation is understood to have been arranged by Pakistan's then-prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, and the Clinton administration.

In turn, the United States promised to lift sanctions on Pakistan and provide an economic aid package.

The plan was set in motion less than 12 months after U.S. cruise missile strikes against bin Laden's training camps in Afghanistan. Clinton administration officials believe the attacks narrowly missed hitting bin Laden.

The Pakistani commando team reportedly was up and running and ready to strike by October 1999 but was shut down by Gen. Pervez Musharraf after he deposed Sharif in a coup that month.

The former U.S. government official said Musharraf was cooperative with the United States in other ways, however, turning over to American custody several key bin Laden operatives.

So what are the sources for your contention that these reports are incorrect?”

“Meant to say 'even though you didn't ask'.”

“bacpac is firing blanks, again. Loud blanks, but blanks just the same.”

“That damn Clinton, making bacpac fire blanks!!!”

“A lethal finding? Am I supposed to conclude a 'lethal finding' translates to assasination authorization? Sorry, I don't.

I guess you could not find a note from Hillary to support the 'he wasn't authorized' claim. I guess she authorized sending cruise missles.

I posted my source on this web site a full week before the newsweek story broke. The newsweek story confirmed what my source said about Clinton knowing where Bin Laden was.

Clinton defenders know no boundries.”

“Hey dun, take a walk.”