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Don't kill the messenger
Violin
12:50:24 PM
10/08/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Make a list...........
Tom Terrific
12:59:51 PM
10/08/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Sadly, the list is too long....
stanlee
12:13:15 AM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Because we have all the fine women
Ravenseer
10:27:47 AM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
We also live in houses instead of caves.
tahoe
10:53:29 AM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Our foreign business practices are those of cavemen.
Tom Terrific
11:49:23 AM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Why should I care?

There will ALWAYS be those that hate us. As soon as we change our policies to placate one group, another group will come along that will see us as the reason their lives suck. It's lonely at the top, and the US is most definitely on top of the heap. The next largest economy (Japan) isn't even half the size of ours.

As the leader of some destitute nation, it's often a matter of personal survival to find a scapegoat on which to hang the problems your own leadership has brought upon your people. There are MANY such leaders in the world, and no matter what the US does, as long as we're Number One, we will be the target of hate and envy from the have-nots of the world.
Forrest
11:53:41 AM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
THAT is such a small part of the reality !

But it is a nice easy answer!

How about, "They hate us because we are god's country!"

I like the "fine women" answer myself.

If we teach their women and children the Macarena their heads will EXPLODE as in "Mars Attacks".

Or we could try a little Slim Whitman on them.

Tom Terrific
12:10:15 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
What a selfish attitude! That's why we are hated so much... It's the look after Number 1 and be damned with who's lives we wreck to keep it that way which makes us such a nation to be despised. How many petty dictators, with bad human rights records, do we need to support so that we can have access to cheap resources, all in support of our "Number 1 economy"? We're a nation of hypocrates.
Gear Slut
12:10:34 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
No GS, we are a nation of self-centered, egotistical money grubbing hypocrites. Or a nation of doctors, take your pick.
sklukaz
12:12:08 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
That's right Gear slut. How many of the goods you buy are made in China? I bet you take a look at the price tag and take care of your number one economy don't ya?
Joy
12:14:01 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
No sklukaz, we are a nation of folks that dig our SUV's and don't give a rat's butt what it takes to keep gas prices under $2 per gallon.

But they hate us becuase we are beautiful...
BobK
12:18:18 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
;)
sklukaz
12:20:18 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
"They backed up a dumptruck of money to my house.......how could I say NO?"
Crusty The Clown

Do you remember when the cheap and low-end products were Made in USA?
I do!!!

This stuff has been going on for the last thirty years or more.

We don't have a lot of choice and the temptaition to buy cheap is too great.

Its the corporations that have done this to US and THEM!

THEY buy OUR government and make the rules and the money..........WE are their subjects.

Tom Terrific
12:24:22 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Ever try to find products made in the usa specifically? Virtually impossibe especially if it's electronics you're shopping for.
Joy
12:28:31 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
For electronics why bother, but the last three packs I bought were all made in the USA. Wait, make that the last five packs I have bought, counting the two dog packs I just got from Wolf Packs.

I wouldn't buy junk just 'cuz it was made in the US, but there are a lot of good products made here. Shoot, I even use an american made camera some of the time (although the lens is German).
BobK
12:39:36 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
I use a pack made in New Zealand.

Tom Terrific
12:42:13 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Did you buy the NZ pack for political reasons or did you just like the pack? IOW, would you have rather had a different pack, but disliked the corporation too much to buy the product?
BobK
12:50:23 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
No

Yes

No

No

Its a Macpac Ravine and the user review looked good and it was cheap($129 NO shipping charge) and the size is good(4,400) and its rugged as a bastard and its simple and it carries nicely.

talk about thread deterioration~~~~~~~~~~

Tom Terrific
12:56:57 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
OMG! A political thread deteriorated into a bp'er. Somebody say something offensive quick before it doesn't get ugly!
sklukaz
1:00:22 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Its the women's fault. You guys let us vote, show off our bodies, use our brains, and work.

Thanks
m&m
1:49:30 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
How much of our #1 economy went out the door to the third world with no possibility for being repaid? We cut that pie pretty liberaly.
Nigal
1:56:57 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
About 25% of my portfolio. Just saw our advisor last night.

It sucks!
m&m
2:07:53 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Nigal-
You talkin' about foreign aid?
Its a pittance compaired to the amount some Euro-trash countries give.
Too much is going to dictators and not enough to the people in need.
Its part of the system of international bribery as pay-off for resource extraction.
The poor of these countries get buggered and maybe that's ONE reason so many hate or resent us.
Tom Terrific
2:17:06 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Tom, they hate and resent us because they are ignorant. they don't understand capitalism, or freedom, and I hope that they don't listen to your rants, because they will never understand.

Essentailly, they hate us because they are told to hate us, and they don't know any better to think otherwise.
Buddha Bear
2:24:28 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Gear Slut, Tom Terrific - I think it's naive to believe we can please everyone at once - I won't even go through the process of quoting the famous saying, it's so well known.

But since you (and Tom T.) are apparently life-time members of the Neville Chamberlain Club, I won't waste any more time trying to convince you to my way of thinking.

By the way, most of the world's high-end electronics and optics are still made in the USA. I'm a research physicist, and the majority of the equipment (lasers, high-speed amplifiers, and electro-optics primarily) in my lab says "Made in the USA" on it.

Finally, I must say that, while Gear Slut (and others on his side of this debate) and I disagree politically, I have often found myself agreeing with many of the opinions voiced by "Slutty." It's amazing to me how universal the bond can be that Mother Nature makes.
Forrest
2:24:59 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Tom, seriously, come on. Can you honestly tell me your view isn't scewed somewhat? Seriously dude, who ya foolin' here? Wasn't Tom Terrific the name of the cab driver Mel Gibson played in 'Conspiracy Theory'?
Nigal
2:42:27 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
They hate us because we are a threat to them. Our culture is threatening to those cultures that insist on keeping women illiterate and subservient. We are an open and free society and theirs is not. We are prosperous and progressive and they are not. Freedom is a scary thing to those who have never known it.
kleetn
2:55:19 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
IMO Kleetn hits the nail on the head.
Le Subtil
2:57:13 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Forrest-
You're a research physicist and you think its all about trying to please everyone all the time?
Who's naive?
Your view of the world is too narrow much like that of too many Americans who go for the simple answers like the "they are ignorant and jealous and they ALL want to come here" mob.
Why don't you tell the people how I feel, you seem to have decided for me.
I'm a member of a club?
Wow,

People all over the world are a lot like us.
Try and put yourself in the position of others and imagine how you might feel.

Buddha Bear-
Essentially, you are told to hate THEM, by the radio or aliens I guess, and YOU don't know any better to think otherwise.

Nigal-
Might makes right in your mind......I suppose.

Tom Terrific
2:57:22 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
The rest of the world hates America because America is a terrorist, a world bully, and a hypocrite.

America complains of terrorism, yet it's America that is supporting terrorism itself by cozying up to Israel.


Americans complains about "innocent" people being killed in the WTC. Why weren't Americans complaining about thousands of innocent children being killed by American sanctions on Iraq the past 10 years. Why weren't Americans complaining about 100,000 innocent Japanese women and children killed by weapons of mass destruction?

Americans deserve what they get. And don't complain when you are wearing a turban on your head in a few years when the Arabs control the world following the collapse of America.
Spock
3:07:17 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Ouch!
Tom Terrific
3:29:59 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Spook = Troll
Forrest
3:44:35 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Spock=fanatic
stix4legs
3:51:11 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Hey Spock, thanks to the NRA and the 2nd amendment, we're all armed. It's highly doubtful that a bunch of rag heads could take us over.
BaSO4
3:54:36 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Hey, they got the oil, America has the addiction. You will be sucking camel d!cks when they shut off the oil.
Spock
3:57:10 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
The NRA is doing a gun giveaway? I better bring the kids!
kleetn
3:58:16 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Thanks to the NRA, you are protected from US jetliners crashing into skyscrapers. The NRA is doing us a lot of good.
Spock
4:02:14 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
What's to keep us from just taking the oil?
BaSO4
4:02:51 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
It's Chelsea's fault.
kleetn
4:04:54 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Go get 'em !

What's to keep "us" from just taking the oil?

Duh, the oil COMPANIES!!!
Guess what?
They are not on OUR side!

Tom Terrific
4:10:52 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
I like Hillary
Tom Terrific
4:14:25 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
I could care less why they hate us. WHAT concerns me more is what are we going to do about that problem and them.

Especially here in the U.S.. Terrorist can either act alone or in groups. I would imagine that there are alot of closet Taliban supporters presently in the US that we have NO knowledge of. Those little "cells" are the ones to worry about. Those crazied individuals "loners" that have remained hidding thru these times will start popping out of the wood work thru the next couple of years, I fear.

The acts of terror might not be as grand as 9/11 but none the less effective in inducing panic and fear in this free state. A letter or package here, a Uhaul there....and lets not forget the copycatters.

We need to round those 'turds up quickly.....a that means that we as Americans must do our best to remain optimistic in these new times and to keep a WATCHFUL EYE on everyone/thing that is suspicious in nature.
Briar Rabbit
4:32:38 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Turds. I love it. A very unappreciated word. Well done, Briar Rabbit!
TownDawg
4:37:52 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Why do they hate us?

Religion . . .the root of MOST evil in the world.
lee
4:40:42 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Is it the NRA's job to protect us from planes flying into buildings?
stix4legs
4:43:42 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
Lee: heh.. trying to stir up a firestorm there?
TownDawg
4:49:24 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
not me towndawg . . . no sir!!

I jess calls em as ah see em.
lee
4:52:58 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
It certainly is a little us and a little them. But the only thing we can control is our own actions, so we better start to look at what we are doing wrong. We can't do anything about what "they're" doing wrong or how they think about us.

Sam Kinneson had an hysterically funny routine about feeding poor nations. It went something like, "You can't feed yourselves? YOU LIVE IN A FAULKING DESERT, OF COURSE YOU CAN'T FEED YOURSELVES. WE'LL MOVE YOU TO WHERE THE FOOD IS."

Pumping money into other nations is often not a good solution. Give a drunk money and he'll buy booze. Give the guy on the corner money, that he doesn't have to earn, and he'll often think you're an easy mark not a virtuous person. Maybe we should first try to understand each other better instead of telling each other how to act and think.

Research physicist! Wow, Forrest, I knew there was something I liked about your posts. Very cool.
arclite
4:53:59 PM
10/09/01

RE: Why do they hate us?
We were taught when we were still very young to avoid two subjects: religion and politics.

Lee: Taking your comment in the context I felt you meant it, you are absolutely RIGHT, but in most circles.. wow.. the next question would have been directed >>

(in my best pseudo-conservative closed minded southern redneck voice).. << wait isn't that me?.. LOL.. naw.. I ain't like that.. anyways..

"Jest what religion ARE you there buddy? You don't sound like one of our kind."
TownDawg
4:59:07 PM
10/09/01

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