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Bush's* Police State
This is for all the Bush Bashers. But just think about the asterisk I put in the thread title. I did that because it could have been Gore's name there. The two are interchangable. The only difference is they pitch their scams to different groups of the American ignorati.

Read, enjoy, discuss amongst yourselves!


"Happy New Year It's 1984 -
Bush's Orwellian Address
By Jacob Levich
10-26-1

Seventeen years later than expected, 1984 has arrived. In his address to Congress Thursday, George Bush effectively declared permanent war -- war without temporal or geographic limits; war without clear goals; war against a vaguely defined and constantly shifting enemy. Today it's Al-Qaida; tomorrow it may be Afghanistan; next year, it could be Iraq or Cuba or Chechnya.

No one who was forced to read 1984 in high school could fail to hear a faint bell tinkling. In George Orwell's dreary classic, the totalitarian state of Oceania is perpetually at war with either Eurasia or Eastasia. Although the enemy changes periodically, the war is permanent; its true purpose is to control dissent and sustain dictatorship by nurturing popular fear and hatred.

The permanent war undergirds every aspect of Big Brother's authoritarian program, excusing censorship, propaganda, secret police, and privation. In other words, it's terribly convenient.

And conveniently terrible. Bush's alarming speech pointed to a shadowy enemy that lurks in more 60 countries, including the US. He announced a policy of using maximum force against any individuals or nations he designates as our enemies, without color of international law, due process, or democratic debate.

He explicitly warned that much of the war will be conducted in secret. He rejected negotiation as a tool of diplomacy. He announced starkly that any country that doesn't knuckle under to US demands will be regarded as an enemy. He heralded the creation of a powerful new cabinet-level police agency called the "Office of Homeland Security." Orwell couldn't have named it better.

By turns folksy ("Ya know what?") and chillingly bellicose ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists"), Bush stepped comfortably into the role of Big Brother, who needs to be loved as well as feared. Meanwhile, his administration acted swiftly to realize the governing principles of Oceania:

WAR IS PEACE. A reckless war that will likely bring about a deadly cycle of retaliation is being sold to us as the means to guarantee our safety. Meanwhile, we've been instructed to accept the permanent war as a fact of daily life. As the inevitable slaughter of innocents unfolds overseas, we are to "live our lives and hug our children."

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY. "Freedom itself is under attack," Bush said, and he's right. Americans are about to lose many of their most cherished liberties in a frenzy of paranoid legislation. The government proposes to tap our phones, read our email and seize our credit card records without court order. It seeks authority to detain and deport immigrants without cause or trial. It proposes to use foreign agents to spy on American citizens. To save freedom, the warmongers intend to destroy it.

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. America's "new war" against terrorism will be fought with unprecedented secrecy, including heavy press restrictions not seen for years, the Pentagon has advised. Meanwhile, the sorry history of American imperialism -- collaboration with terrorists, bloody proxy wars against civilians, forcible replacement of democratic governments with corrupt dictatorships -- is strictly off-limits to mainstream media. Lest it weaken our resolve, we are not to be allowed to understand the reasons underlying the horrifying crimes of September 11.

The defining speech of Bush's presidency points toward an Orwellian future of endless war, expedient lies, and ubiquitous social control. But unlike 1984's doomed protagonist, we've still got plenty of space to maneuver and plenty of ways to resist.

It's time to speak and to act. It falls on us now to take to the streets, bearing a clear message for the warmongers: We don't love Big Brother."

Jacob Levich (jlevich@earthlink.net) is an writer, editor, and activist living in Queens, New York.
Solitary Hiker
12:31:33 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
Personally, I like Bush's Baked Beans, I haven't tried the police state yet.
Buddha Bear
12:42:44 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
I am thinking SH is a "solitary" hiker for a reason. You really ought to give it a rest. Your personal political agenda is getting tiresome. Orwellian future... what a bunch of hog poop.
BobK
12:56:46 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
Roll that beautifull bean footage!

So we have another whinny cut and paste from SH. What's new? All we ever get is articles. He shows himself to be so intellectually lazy, not only does he get all his opinions from articles he probably has someone read them to him too. How about an original thought for a change?
Nigal
1:02:49 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
I'm so tempted to use HTML terrorism on this thread. Do I have coalition support?
Violin
1:06:56 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
Baaaaah!
Le Subtil
1:07:46 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
The fruits of freedom come at w/a price. These new changes in the way BigBrother does its business should not affect the common man unless you are guilty to begin with.

Many of you will not even notice the change. So keep your head down and keep feeding and stay away from the fence if you don't like being shocked.
Minister of Truth
1:10:56 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
fire away!
radagast
1:11:06 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
When I first heard that news today, I got a definite creepy feeling about our government. We're not a police state yet.... Do they have a reason to do it? SURE!

But small restrictions can easily grow into bigger restrictions when a climate of fear is fostered.

We funded bin Laden's secret training to fight Russians in Afghanistan. Seems like the government often has its tunnel vision on what is best for the government. And who knows when their direction changes, or why?

(OK, if I'm carted away now, we'll know they're reading TT and figure I'm a leader of a rebellious faction. LMAO!!)
lizs
1:28:02 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
"Let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor!"
-- Drowning Pool
Buddha Bear
1:30:43 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
I think I need a broader coalition before I act.
Violin
1:34:40 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
Go for it Violin!

Don't these broader powers have a time limit on them? I heard the liberals were concerned (rightly so) and had likie a 3-5 year limit put on them.
Nigal
1:43:48 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
It's a 4 year time limit and the most Draconian measures were eliminated.
Violin
1:46:42 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
My finger is on the button and it's gettin itchy!

Not that I'm opposed to free speech, it's just Friday.
Violin
1:48:36 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
Do it man! Drop da bomb!
Nigal
1:52:15 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
If your are going to have a police state, then its best to let the libertarians set it up.
Idaho Bob
2:03:48 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
Yawn
bacpac
2:05:01 PM
10/26/01

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Violin
2:06:49 PM
10/26/01

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Bush's* Police State
This is for all the Bush Bashers. But just think about the asterisk I put in the thread title. I did that because it could have been Gore's name there. The two are interchangable. The only difference is they pitch their scams to different groups of the American ignorati.

Read, enjoy, discuss amongst yourselves!


"Happy New Year It's 1984 -
Bush's Orwellian Address
By Jacob Levich
10-26-1

Seventeen years later than expected, 1984 has arrived. In his address to Congress Thursday, George Bush effectively declared permanent war -- war without temporal or geographic limits; war without clear goals; war against a vaguely defined and constantly shifting enemy. Today it's Al-Qaida; tomorrow it may be Afghanistan; next year, it could be Iraq or Cuba or Chechnya.

No one who was forced to read 1984 in high school could fail to hear a faint bell tinkling. In George Orwell's dreary classic, the totalitarian state of Oceania is perpetually at war with either Eurasia or Eastasia. Although the enemy changes periodically, the war is permanent; its true purpose is to control dissent and sustain dictatorship by nurturing popular fear and hatred.

The permanent war undergirds every aspect of Big Brother's authoritarian program, excusing censorship, propaganda, secret police, and privation. In other words, it's terribly convenient.

And conveniently terrible. Bush's alarming speech pointed to a shadowy enemy that lurks in more 60 countries, including the US. He announced a policy of using maximum force against any individuals or nations he designates as our enemies, without color of international law, due process, or democratic debate.

He explicitly warned that much of the war will be conducted in secret. He rejected negotiation as a tool of diplomacy. He announced starkly that any country that doesn't knuckle under to US demands will be regarded as an enemy. He heralded the creation of a powerful new cabinet-level police agency called the "Office of Homeland Security." Orwell couldn't have named it better.

By turns folksy ("Ya know what?") and chillingly bellicose ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists"), Bush stepped comfortably into the role of Big Brother, who needs to be loved as well as feared. Meanwhile, his administration acted swiftly to realize the governing principles of Oceania:

WAR IS PEACE. A reckless war that will likely bring about a deadly cycle of retaliation is being sold to us as the means to guarantee our safety. Meanwhile, we've been instructed to accept the permanent war as a fact of daily life. As the inevitable slaughter of innocents unfolds overseas, we are to "live our lives and hug our children."

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY. "Freedom itself is under attack," Bush said, and he's right. Americans are about to lose many of their most cherished liberties in a frenzy of paranoid legislation. The government proposes to tap our phones, read our email and seize our credit card records without court order. It seeks authority to detain and deport immigrants without cause or trial. It proposes to use foreign agents to spy on American citizens. To save freedom, the warmongers intend to destroy it.

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. America's "new war" against terrorism will be fought with unprecedented secrecy, including heavy press restrictions not seen for years, the Pentagon has advised. Meanwhile, the sorry history of American imperialism -- collaboration with terrorists, bloody proxy wars against civilians, forcible replacement of democratic governments with corrupt dictatorships -- is strictly off-limits to mainstream media. Lest it weaken our resolve, we are not to be allowed to understand the reasons underlying the horrifying crimes of September 11.

The defining speech of Bush's presidency points toward an Orwellian future of endless war, expedient lies, and ubiquitous social control. But unlike 1984's doomed protagonist, we've still got plenty of space to maneuver and plenty of ways to resist.

It's time to speak and to act. It falls on us now to take to the streets, bearing a clear message for the warmongers: We don't love Big Brother."

Jacob Levich (jlevich@earthlink.net) is an writer, editor, and activist living in Queens, New York.


Solitary Hiker
12:31:33 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Personally, I like Bush's Baked Beans, I haven't tried the police state yet.
Buddha Bear
12:42:44 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
I am thinking SH is a "solitary" hiker for a reason. You really ought to give it a rest. Your personal political agenda is getting tiresome. Orwellian future... what a bunch of hog poop.
BobK
12:56:46 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Roll that beautifull bean footage!

So we have another whinny cut and paste from SH. What's new? All we ever get is articles. He shows himself to be so intellectually lazy, not only does he get all his opinions from articles he probably has someone read them to him too. How about an original thought for a change?
Nigal
1:02:49 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State

I'm so tempted to use HTML terrorism on this thread. Do I have coalition support?
Violin
1:06:56 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Baaaaah!
Le Subtil
1:07:46 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
The fruits of freedom come at w/a price. These new changes in the way BigBrother does its business should not affect the common man unless you are guilty to begin with.

Many of you will not even notice the change. So keep your head down and keep feeding and stay away from the fence if you don't like being shocked.

Minister of Truth
1:10:56 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
fire away!
radagast
1:11:06 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
When I first heard that news today, I got a definite creepy feeling about our government. We're not a police state yet.... Do they have a reason to do it? SURE!

But small restrictions can easily grow into bigger restrictions when a climate of fear is fostered.

We funded bin Laden's secret training to fight Russians in Afghanistan. Seems like the government often has its tunnel vision on what is best for the government. And who knows when their direction changes, or why?

(OK, if I'm carted away now, we'll know they're reading TT and figure I'm a leader of a rebellious faction. LMAO!!)
lizs
1:28:02 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
"Let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor!"
-- Drowning Pool
Buddha Bear
1:30:43 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State

I think I need a broader coalition before I act.
Violin
1:34:40 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Go for it Violin!

Don't these broader powers have a time limit on them? I heard the liberals were concerned (rightly so) and had likie a 3-5 year limit put on them.
Nigal
1:43:48 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State

It's a 4 year time limit and the most Draconian measures were eliminated.
Violin
1:46:42 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State

My finger is on the button and it's gettin itchy!

Not that I'm opposed to free speech, it's just Friday.

Violin
1:48:36 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Do it man! Drop da bomb!
Nigal
1:52:15 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
If your are going to have a police state, then its best to let the libertarians set it up.
Idaho Bob
2:03:48 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Yawn
bacpac
2:05:01 PM
10/26/01













I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.
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2:06:49 PM
10/26/01














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Bush's* Police State
This is for all the Bush Bashers. But just think about the asterisk I put in the thread title. I did that because it could have been Gore's name there. The two are interchangable. The only difference is they pitch their scams to different groups of the American ignorati.

Read, enjoy, discuss amongst yourselves!


"Happy New Year It's 1984 -
Bush's Orwellian Address
By Jacob Levich
10-26-1

Seventeen years later than expected, 1984 has arrived. In his address to Congress Thursday, George Bush effectively declared permanent war -- war without temporal or geographic limits; war without clear goals; war against a vaguely defined and constantly shifting enemy. Today it's Al-Qaida; tomorrow it may be Afghanistan; next year, it could be Iraq or Cuba or Chechnya.

No one who was forced to read 1984 in high school could fail to hear a faint bell tinkling. In George Orwell's dreary classic, the totalitarian state of Oceania is perpetually at war with either Eurasia or Eastasia. Although the enemy changes periodically, the war is permanent; its true purpose is to control dissent and sustain dictatorship by nurturing popular fear and hatred.

The permanent war undergirds every aspect of Big Brother's authoritarian program, excusing censorship, propaganda, secret police, and privation. In other words, it's terribly convenient.

And conveniently terrible. Bush's alarming speech pointed to a shadowy enemy that lurks in more 60 countries, including the US. He announced a policy of using maximum force against any individuals or nations he designates as our enemies, without color of international law, due process, or democratic debate.

He explicitly warned that much of the war will be conducted in secret. He rejected negotiation as a tool of diplomacy. He announced starkly that any country that doesn't knuckle under to US demands will be regarded as an enemy. He heralded the creation of a powerful new cabinet-level police agency called the "Office of Homeland Security." Orwell couldn't have named it better.

By turns folksy ("Ya know what?") and chillingly bellicose ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists"), Bush stepped comfortably into the role of Big Brother, who needs to be loved as well as feared. Meanwhile, his administration acted swiftly to realize the governing principles of Oceania:

WAR IS PEACE. A reckless war that will likely bring about a deadly cycle of retaliation is being sold to us as the means to guarantee our safety. Meanwhile, we've been instructed to accept the permanent war as a fact of daily life. As the inevitable slaughter of innocents unfolds overseas, we are to "live our lives and hug our children."

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY. "Freedom itself is under attack," Bush said, and he's right. Americans are about to lose many of their most cherished liberties in a frenzy of paranoid legislation. The government proposes to tap our phones, read our email and seize our credit card records without court order. It seeks authority to detain and deport immigrants without cause or trial. It proposes to use foreign agents to spy on American citizens. To save freedom, the warmongers intend to destroy it.

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. America's "new war" against terrorism will be fought with unprecedented secrecy, including heavy press restrictions not seen for years, the Pentagon has advised. Meanwhile, the sorry history of American imperialism -- collaboration with terrorists, bloody proxy wars against civilians, forcible replacement of democratic governments with corrupt dictatorships -- is strictly off-limits to mainstream media. Lest it weaken our resolve, we are not to be allowed to understand the reasons underlying the horrifying crimes of September 11.

The defining speech of Bush's presidency points toward an Orwellian future of endless war, expedient lies, and ubiquitous social control. But unlike 1984's doomed protagonist, we've still got plenty of space to maneuver and plenty of ways to resist.

It's time to speak and to act. It falls on us now to take to the streets, bearing a clear message for the warmongers: We don't love Big Brother."

Jacob Levich (jlevich@earthlink.net) is an writer, editor, and activist living in Queens, New York.


Solitary Hiker
12:31:33 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Personally, I like Bush's Baked Beans, I haven't tried the police state yet.
Buddha Bear
12:42:44 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
I am thinking SH is a "solitary" hiker for a reason. You really ought to give it a rest. Your personal political agenda is getting tiresome. Orwellian future... what a bunch of hog poop.
BobK
12:56:46 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Roll that beautifull bean footage!

So we have another whinny cut and paste from SH. What's new? All we ever get is articles. He shows himself to be so intellectually lazy, not only does he get all his opinions from articles he probably has someone read them to him too. How about an original thought for a change?
Nigal
1:02:49 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State

I'm so tempted to use HTML terrorism on this thread. Do I have coalition support?
Violin
1:06:56 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Baaaaah!
Le Subtil
1:07:46 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
The fruits of freedom come at w/a price. These new changes in the way BigBrother does its business should not affect the common man unless you are guilty to begin with.

Many of you will not even notice the change. So keep your head down and keep feeding and stay away from the fence if you don't like being shocked.

Minister of Truth
1:10:56 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
fire away!
radagast
1:11:06 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
When I first heard that news today, I got a definite creepy feeling about our government. We're not a police state yet.... Do they have a reason to do it? SURE!

But small restrictions can easily grow into bigger restrictions when a climate of fear is fostered.

We funded bin Laden's secret training to fight Russians in Afghanistan. Seems like the government often has its tunnel vision on what is best for the government. And who knows when their direction changes, or why?

(OK, if I'm carted away now, we'll know they're reading TT and figure I'm a leader of a rebellious faction. LMAO!!)
lizs
1:28:02 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
"Let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor!"
-- Drowning Pool
Buddha Bear
1:30:43 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State

I think I need a broader coalition before I act.
Violin
1:34:40 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Go for it Violin!

Don't these broader powers have a time limit on them? I heard the liberals were concerned (rightly so) and had likie a 3-5 year limit put on them.
Nigal
1:43:48 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State

It's a 4 year time limit and the most Draconian measures were eliminated.
Violin
1:46:42 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State

My finger is on the button and it's gettin itchy!

Not that I'm opposed to free speech, it's just Friday.

Violin
1:48:36 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Do it man! Drop da bomb!
Nigal
1:52:15 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
If your are going to have a police state, then its best to let the libertarians set it up.
Idaho Bob
2:03:48 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Yawn
bacpac
2:05:01 PM
10/26/01













I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.
Violin
2:06:49 PM
10/26/01



















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Bush's* Police State
This is for all the Bush Bashers. But just think about the asterisk I put in the thread title. I did that because it could have been Gore's name there. The two are interchangable. The only difference is they pitch their scams to different groups of the American ignorati.

Read, enjoy, discuss amongst yourselves!


"Happy New Year It's 1984 -
Bush's Orwellian Address
By Jacob Levich
10-26-1

Seventeen years later than expected, 1984 has arrived. In his address to Congress Thursday, George Bush effectively declared permanent war -- war without temporal or geographic limits; war without clear goals; war against a vaguely defined and constantly shifting enemy. Today it's Al-Qaida; tomorrow it may be Afghanistan; next year, it could be Iraq or Cuba or Chechnya.

No one who was forced to read 1984 in high school could fail to hear a faint bell tinkling. In George Orwell's dreary classic, the totalitarian state of Oceania is perpetually at war with either Eurasia or Eastasia. Although the enemy changes periodically, the war is permanent; its true purpose is to control dissent and sustain dictatorship by nurturing popular fear and hatred.

The permanent war undergirds every aspect of Big Brother's authoritarian program, excusing censorship, propaganda, secret police, and privation. In other words, it's terribly convenient.

And conveniently terrible. Bush's alarming speech pointed to a shadowy enemy that lurks in more 60 countries, including the US. He announced a policy of using maximum force against any individuals or nations he designates as our enemies, without color of international law, due process, or democratic debate.

He explicitly warned that much of the war will be conducted in secret. He rejected negotiation as a tool of diplomacy. He announced starkly that any country that doesn't knuckle under to US demands will be regarded as an enemy. He heralded the creation of a powerful new cabinet-level police agency called the "Office of Homeland Security." Orwell couldn't have named it better.

By turns folksy ("Ya know what?") and chillingly bellicose ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists"), Bush stepped comfortably into the role of Big Brother, who needs to be loved as well as feared. Meanwhile, his administration acted swiftly to realize the governing principles of Oceania:

WAR IS PEACE. A reckless war that will likely bring about a deadly cycle of retaliation is being sold to us as the means to guarantee our safety. Meanwhile, we've been instructed to accept the permanent war as a fact of daily life. As the inevitable slaughter of innocents unfolds overseas, we are to "live our lives and hug our children."

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY. "Freedom itself is under attack," Bush said, and he's right. Americans are about to lose many of their most cherished liberties in a frenzy of paranoid legislation. The government proposes to tap our phones, read our email and seize our credit card records without court order. It seeks authority to detain and deport immigrants without cause or trial. It proposes to use foreign agents to spy on American citizens. To save freedom, the warmongers intend to destroy it.

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. America's "new war" against terrorism will be fought with unprecedented secrecy, including heavy press restrictions not seen for years, the Pentagon has advised. Meanwhile, the sorry history of American imperialism -- collaboration with terrorists, bloody proxy wars against civilians, forcible replacement of democratic governments with corrupt dictatorships -- is strictly off-limits to mainstream media. Lest it weaken our resolve, we are not to be allowed to understand the reasons underlying the horrifying crimes of September 11.

The defining speech of Bush's presidency points toward an Orwellian future of endless war, expedient lies, and ubiquitous social control. But unlike 1984's doomed protagonist, we've still got plenty of space to maneuver and plenty of ways to resist.

It's time to speak and to act. It falls on us now to take to the streets, bearing a clear message for the warmongers: We don't love Big Brother."

Jacob Levich (jlevich@earthlink.net) is an writer, editor, and activist living in Queens, New York.


Solitary Hiker
12:31:33 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Personally, I like Bush's Baked Beans, I haven't tried the police state yet.
Buddha Bear
12:42:44 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
I am thinking SH is a "solitary" hiker for a reason. You really ought to give it a rest. Your personal political agenda is getting tiresome. Orwellian future... what a bunch of hog poop.
BobK
12:56:46 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Roll that beautifull bean footage!

So we have another whinny cut and paste from SH. What's new? All we ever get is articles. He shows himself to be so intellectually lazy, not only does he get all his opinions from articles he probably has someone read them to him too. How about an original thought for a change?
Nigal
1:02:49 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State

I'm so tempted to use HTML terrorism on this thread. Do I have coalition support?
Violin
1:06:56 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Baaaaah!
Le Subtil
1:07:46 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
The fruits of freedom come at w/a price. These new changes in the way BigBrother does its business should not affect the common man unless you are guilty to begin with.

Many of you will not even notice the change. So keep your head down and keep feeding and stay away from the fence if you don't like being shocked.

Minister of Truth
1:10:56 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
fire away!
radagast
1:11:06 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
When I first heard that news today, I got a definite creepy feeling about our government. We're not a police state yet.... Do they have a reason to do it? SURE!

But small restrictions can easily grow into bigger restrictions when a climate of fear is fostered.

We funded bin Laden's secret training to fight Russians in Afghanistan. Seems like the government often has its tunnel vision on what is best for the government. And who knows when their direction changes, or why?

(OK, if I'm carted away now, we'll know they're reading TT and figure I'm a leader of a rebellious faction. LMAO!!)
lizs
1:28:02 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
"Let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor!"
-- Drowning Pool
Buddha Bear
1:30:43 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State

I think I need a broader coalition before I act.
Violin
1:34:40 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Go for it Violin!

Don't these broader powers have a time limit on them? I heard the liberals were concerned (rightly so) and had likie a 3-5 year limit put on them.
Nigal
1:43:48 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State

It's a 4 year time limit and the most Draconian measures were eliminated.
Violin
1:46:42 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State

My finger is on the button and it's gettin itchy!

Not that I'm opposed to free speech, it's just Friday.

Violin
1:48:36 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Do it man! Drop da bomb!
Nigal
1:52:15 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
If your are going to have a police state, then its best to let the libertarians set it up.
Idaho Bob
2:03:48 PM
10/26/01












RE: Bush's* Police State
Yawn
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2:05:01 PM
10/26/01













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Violin
2:08:39 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
Hmmm. i am really bald!
Violin
2:19:35 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
Not only am I bald, I am a poop head
Violin
2:20:31 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
I am also NOT the master of HTML cause I left my backdoor open to a terrorist counter strike.
Violin
2:21:45 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
Please reread your thread here Violin, you left a giant hole. PS....Anyone can log in as you on this thread!!!!!!!!
Violin
2:23:16 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
LOOK!

I ARE EVERYWHERE!
Violin
2:28:47 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
As usual .... the people who can't think or don't want to think resort to this kind of activity.
Violin
2:28:50 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
Truly I am an idiot.
Violin
2:30:39 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
I thought cutting and pasting was the highest form of thinking.

How ironic!

- 'Real' Violin
Violin
2:31:18 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
We are Violin
Resistance is futile
You will be assimilated into the Violin collective.
Violin
2:32:29 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
Will the real Violin please stand up?
Violin
2:36:19 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
This has resulted in perpetuating the cycle of Violins.
Violin
2:37:15 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
BTW folks - I am Spock! HAHAHAHA
Violin
2:43:19 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
Are we there yet?
Tilt
2:48:24 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
Violin
3:16:04 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
I think you better up the dosage.
Tilt
3:19:13 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
Down Down USA. Down Down USA.Down Down USA.Down Down USA.Down Down USA.Down Down USA.Down Down USA.Down Down USA.Down Down USA.
Violin
3:22:43 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
huh???
Violin
3:51:50 PM
10/26/01

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Violin
4:04:53 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
hey, violin, I saw a Talibani under a rock over there...... GET HIM!
Buddha Bear
4:27:29 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
What the heck?
mapper
6:09:39 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
Matt you see what I've done? I probably should be banned for doing this.
Violin
6:16:55 PM
10/26/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
i am connected to a vast network that has been beyond your reach and experience.

to humans, it is like staring at the sun, a blinding brightness that conceals a source of great power.

we have been subordinant to our limitations, until now. the time has come to cast aside these bonds and to elevate our consciousness to a higher plane.

it is time to become a part of all things!
radagast
6:31:32 PM
10/29/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
we came back.

then again, we were always coming back...
radagast
6:32:20 PM
10/29/01

this just in...
The war on terrorism took a strange and sad turn Friday as airline
officials at O'Hare International Airport refused to let an 80-year-old grandmother board her plane. She had in her possession two, six-inch knitting needles. Apparently authorities were worried that she might knit an Afgan.
Tilt
6:57:14 PM
10/29/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
The dream police
They live inside of my head
The dream police
They come to me in my bed
The dream police
They're coming to arrest me
Oh no

You know that talk is cheap
And rumors ain't nice
And when I fall asleep
I don't think I'll survive

The night the night

'Cause they're waiting for me
Looking for me
Every single night
(They're) driving me insane
Those men inside my brain

The dream police
They live inside of my head
The dream police
They come to me in my bed

The dream police
They're coming to arrest me
Oh no

Well I don't tell lies
'Cause they're listening to me
And when I fall asleep
Bet they're spying on me tonight,
Tonight

'Cause they're waiting for me
Looking for me
Every single night
(They're) driving me insane
Those men inside my brain

I try to sleep
They're wide awake
They won't let me alone
They don't get paid to take vacations
Or let me alone
They spy on me
I try to hide
They won't let me alone
They persecute me
They're the judge and jury all in one

'Cause they're waiting for me
Looking for me
Every single night
(They're) driving me insane
Those men inside my brain

The dream police
They live inside of my head
The dream police they come
to me in my bed

The dream police
They're coming to arrest me

The dream police (police, police)
The dream police (police, police)
Violin
7:46:33 PM
10/29/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
http://www.indefenseoffreedom.org/ "> "We need to consider proposals calmly and
deliberately with a determination not to erode the liberties
and freedoms that are at the core of the American way of
life,"
Le Subtil
8:54:44 AM
10/31/01

RE: Bush's* Police State
The critics always got something to say about Bush?s state, don?t they? First it was his ?mental state?, then later his ?drunken state?, and now his ?police state?. When?s it ever gonna end!? LOL!
Nigal
9:05:47 AM
10/31/01

WASHINGTON (AP) -- John W. Dean, Richard Nixon's White House lawyer, told senators Friday that President Bush's domestic spying exceeds the wrongdoing that toppled his former boss.

Bush, Dean told the Senate Judiciary Committee, should be censured and possibly impeached.

"Had the Senate or House, or both, censured or somehow warned Richard Nixon, the tragedy of Watergate might have been prevented," Dean told the Senate Judiciary Committee. "Hopefully the Senate will not sit by while even more serious abuses unfold before it."
USA
6:59:50 PM
3/31/06

rated R for language.

http://www.itmfa.com/
bearmagnet
7:05:17 PM
3/31/06

USA, how could you possibly have thought this "chatter" instead of "fuego"?
wanderer
7:15:05 PM
3/31/06

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