True Patriots

“What is a true patriot?

1. A patriot is someone who questions authority.

2. A patriot is a good neighbor.”

“a patriot is a missle. HELLO TALLYHOBON THIS MISSLE IS FOR YOU.”

“Both 1&2,depending on the situation. Anyone can question Authority all the time,thats easy.Especially when the questioner never has to make the difficult decision he/she is questioning.”

“I thought it was a Football Team.”

“I think a better description of 1 would be: A true patriot realizes that authrity can be wrong and can make mistakes, but also that he himself cannot make brash decisions about the validity of the authority's decisions unless he knows everything that went into the decision.”

“IMHO a patriot is someone who stands for the ideals that this country was founded on and stands up for them even when the federal government deviates from those ideas. It also means standing behind our country when their actions and decisions DO remain consistent with the original ideals no matter how unpopular.

Sounds like we all fall a bit short on one count or another.”

“Pretty good definition, Nigal, and good point, deathmarch.”

“I agree with you on that one Nigal”

“Fine definition - but I suspect we all have different interpretations of "the ideals this country was founded on".”

“The founding fathers of this country are spinning in their graves as they watch the federal government do everything but follow the original ideals.”

“Hello pepperdog!”

“That can be a problem Pepper but the foundation of those ideas are clear enough to creat a basis.

I almost forgot...patriots don't cut and paste. Hi SH. 8)”

“That's "create".”

“Solitary - Hi, Bud! Good to hear from you!

Nigal - You and I could probably have a very spirited discussion disagreeing about the finer points of our historical documents (and even some of the broader points).

Kinda like the Bible (except at least we are working with documents in the original language).”

“Kinda...American language has evolved remarkably in 200 years.”

“Well...the question was, what is a patriot, not what were the original ideals of our country...

That's a good question, too.”

“"I thought it was a Football Team.
walkindude"

LOL! I've been hoping they would turn out to be a football team and a professional one at that. However, at 3-4, its hard to tell for sure.”

“Thin Air, Where did you come up with a definition like that?

Seems like the words loyalty and courage should be in the definition.”

“Well put Nigal”

“a patriot is a person who supports the authority and interests of their country.”

“A staunchy altruistic person that is our "canary in the coal mine" of American idealologies. Watchdog and hardcore preservationist of American beliefs and principles. Someone willing to sacrifice their life for country before doing so for God.”

“from webster's


Main Entry: pa·tri·ot
Pronunciation: 'pA-trE-&t, -"ät, chiefly British 'pa-trE-&t
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French patriote compatriot, from Late Latin patriota, from Greek patriOtEs, from patria lineage, from patr-, patEr father
Date: 1605
: one who loves his or her country and supports its authority and interests”

“Briar Rabbit - my ideas about "American belifs and principles" are likely very different from yours. Who is the patriot?”

“"Nigal - You and I could probably have a very spirited discussion disagreeing about the finer points of our historical documents (and even some of the broader points)."

That all depends on what the points are. There are some things our forefathers couldn't take into account for but the basis is there. Why do you feel we would be at odds?”

“Wouldn't, putting personal beliefs and principles aside and concentrating on what is common amongst us and beneficial to the republic's future help you find your patriot(s).”

“Amen Briar, Amen.”

“yes briar, that is what it is about. not personal wants, ideas and beliefs.”

“I'm definitely not an Amerikan "patriot". I'm a cutting and pasting Buchanan isolationist, an anti-federalist Constitutionalist, and a League of the South secessionist.”

“And I'm looking to find the next great article to start a thread with.

Man this is going to get me the Numero Uno spot in the poll for sure.”

“"I'm a cutting and pasting Buchanan isolationist, an anti-federalist Constitutionalist, and a League of the South secessionist"


IOW, he has a bumber sticker on his pickup truck that says "hell no, I ain't fergettin'!" ;-)”

“Monica Lewinsky was more of a patriot than you all will ever be.

Or, at least I assume as much.

"one who loves her country and supports its authority and interests "”

“I'm sure there are a lot of things I would agree with y'all on and a lot of things we would disagree with each other on. My point is just that I have a problem with the concept of an Absolute Truth (except that backpacking rocks!!).

Solitary - you will never be numero uno on my list!! It never fails to amaze me that this Progressive, Left-Coast, knee-jerk liberal, hippi-chick finds so many values in common with a cutting and pasting Buchanan isolationist, an anti-federalist Constitutionalist, and a League of the South secessionist.”

“"My point is just that I have a problem with the concept of an Absolute Truth (except that backpacking rocks!!)."


By this I assume you are talking about a Creator? That's cool too. Part of our freedoms is to believe what you want. Believing in a Creator is not dependant upon being patriotic or an American. The virtues I was speaking of are freedom, liberty and responsibility to our fellow man.”

“Haha! At least you're honest SH! You should take orver one of those small islands off the coast down there and start your own country. Solitary Land? Beuchanistan? Cracker Island? Would I need a Visa to come and visit you?”

“DON'T CALL HIM CRACKER!!!!

I made that mistake and he is a little touchy about it. (truth hurts???) (heehee)”

“So is a patriot someone who owns guns under the false Second Amendment pretext that he needs it to protect himself FROM the government? When are you going to use that gun to protect the country from a government supposedly gone astray? Hasm't it already gone astray from what the founding fathers intended? When is it proper to overthrow the Government? If Bush is leading the USA down the path of destruction right now, should we support him?”

“skullz, I would say american language hasnt evolved,rather it has devolved.”

“The only true patriots I know are the ones who came here from some god-awful repressive foreign country for a better life, like the former Soviet republic or Ethiopia or Iraq..

Most of the stupid spoiled brats that live here don't even know what they have (myself included).”

“birch,

evolve = change over time

You are right, that doesn't necessarily imply improvment.”

“A Patriot is someone who will stand up and defend Spock's right to free speech even while Spock cowers behind said Patriot.”

“There are some great definitions of a patriot here and most of them seem right to me. I think that some people have confused "true" with "blind".”

“I don't quite get this attitude toward 'authority'. The last time I checked, those suckers in the District of Columbia worked for US.
It is Our duty to tell Them what to do, and hold their feet to the fire when they don't.”

“Tilt, I agree. We are supposed to be the ones telling them what to do. However, the government's information monopoly often puts the people at a disadvantage. There's always Abe'e retort about fooling some of the people.. etc.. Now more true than ever, I hope.

Say, how can a successionist be a Patriot? Loyal to a cause definitely, but a Patriot?”

“SOUTHERN HISTORY 101
This is for all the Ohio boys that need to know.

I am not a cracker. You may have heard ignorant yankee people use this term for all Southerners but .. hey what the hell do they know about history in general and Southern history in particular?

Southerners know that a cracker was/is defined as someone from Florida. The name derives from late 19th century cattle drivers in that state. These people used long whips to herd cows from one pasture to another. They cracked whips, hence the name cracker.

I on the other hand am a born North Carolina 'tarheel' that happens to live and work in South Carolina. Hence I have become a Sandlapper. Now the sandlapper moniker comes from the fact that when South Carolinians fought the British back in the Revolution (Did they teach you about that in yankee schools?) they used guerrilla tactics. The South Carolinians would lie in the sand awaiting the Redcoats. The term 'sandlapper' was the derisive name given to the South Carolinians by the British.

As an aside did you know that the Revolution was basically won in South Carolina? The two decisive battles before Cornwallis was driven to defeat at Yorktown, Va. occurred at Cowpens and King's Mountain, South Carolina?

I will give more Southern history lessons in the near future. Be sure to tune in.”

“OK, sorry 'bout that hillbilly. LOL!”

“Well, like a lot of things there is more than one version of the origin of "cracker".

I saw on TV that "cracker" means someone from Georgia, and the term originated from people that subsisted on cracked corn (and lived in little earthen houses).”

“Truth is not as much a light in the dark as it is the dark come to light and the absence of all truth indicates the presence of reason.

What don't you understand about Absolute truth? It barely exists any more here in America and you all know that. Old-time values of honesty, character, and integrity have been forsaken and replaced with pleasure and selfishness, there is a rising distrust of everyone from politicians to church leaders. This is not without good reason. When morality means nothing,
trust must be abandoned.

Words such as love, faith, peace, fulfillment, joy, happiness, family, honor, liberty, etc. and patriotism for that matter no longer have absolute meanings, but rather have come to mean whatever an individual feels like they should mean.”

“I remember I-am-om combining the two stories; a cracker was someone from Georgia who because they used long whips to herd cows.

What's a Yankee to believe?”

“Cracker refers to southern cattle drivers it's a job description, but I have only heard the term used to describe folks from Florida and southern Georgia.”

“Wheat Thins.

That commercial with Sandy Duncan was spooky.”