Five Lies About the

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The Top Five Lies About
The 'War On Terrorism'
http://www.oz.net/~vvawai/ain/top-five-lies.html
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How many people do you know who claim to be skeptical, who pride themselves on their distrust for authority, who like to pretend that they're wise to the ways of the world -- and then, every time there's a war, they swallow the lies of the government with all the gullibility of a three-year-old child in the lap of a department store Santa Claus? Don't fall into that trap yourself! Learn to identify and refute official misinformation when you see it. Let's count down some of the common misconceptions about this war:


Lie #5: "We're not at war with the Afghan people -- look, we're bringing them food!"

Reality: Afghanistan is in the midst of a severe drought which threatens literally millions of people with starvation. Even before the threat of U.S. bombing, the World Food Program (WFP) said that nearly 6 million people were in need of immediate food assistance. When the threat of war caused massive movements of refugees and internally displaced people, the WFP raised that number to 7.5 million. UN agencies were keeping huge numbers of people alive, but the war danger -- as well as the U.S. demand that Pakistan seal its border with Afghanistan -- caused the WFP to suspend deliveries of wheat flour to the country. We have no idea how many people have already died as a result. Meanwhile, the U.S. dropped 37,000 individually-wrapped packages of food from the sky. You do the math. That's enough to feed about 37,000 people for one day, in a country where seven and a half million are in danger of starvation. Additionally, the spokesman for an international charity active in Afghanistan told the London Independent that "Random food drops are the worst possible way of delivering food aid. They cause more problems than they solve." Not the least of which is the fact that Afghanistan has the highest number of unexploded land mines in the world. There are already 10 or 15 mine incidents every day, and with people scrambling into mine-ridden areas to pick up random packages of food dropped from U.S. planes, that number is only going to go up.


Lie #4: "Oil? Who said anything about oil?"

Reality: The Caspian Sea region has potentially the world's largest oil reserves, likely making Central Asia the next Middle East. The problem is piping it out. Afghanistan occupies a strategic position between the Caspian and the markets of the Indian subcontinent and east Asia. It's prime territory for building pipelines, which is why the oil company Unocal -- as well as the U.S. government -- welcomed the Taliban's rise to power in 1996 as a promising source of "stability." That turned out to be a pipe dream (so to speak), but people like our Commander-in-Chief and the oil men around him have never given up on the tremendous profit possibilities that Central Asia offers. And if you don't think such considerations are crossing their minds at this time of crisis, may we suggest a refresher course in The Facts of Life?


Lie #3: "The U.S. is trying to liberate the people of Afghanistan from Taliban tyranny."

Reality: The U.S., Russia, and Iran have been aiding a rough coalition of armed groups called the Northern Alliance. The Northern Alliance's fighters are drawn mainly from ethnic minority groups in Afghanistan who have been persecuted by the Taliban. But their record is also a bloody one. Groups like the Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan (RAWA), which have been fighting against fundamentalism and for democracy in Afghanistan for years, have publicly stated that the fundamentalist gangsters of the Northern Alliance are not an acceptable alternative to the fundamentalist gangsters of the Taliban. No wonder: Human Rights Watch implicates the Northern Alliance in "indiscriminate aerial bombardment and shelling, direct attacks on civilians, summary executions, rape, persecution on the basis of religion or ethnicity, the recruitment and use of children as soldiers, and the use of antipersonnel landmines." By now everyone knows that Osama bin Laden was among the mujihadin recruited by the CIA to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. Meet the next generation.


Lie #2: "America is coming together."

Reality: Tens of thousands of people have been laid off in the airline industry alone. The government quickly responded to the airline industry crisis with a multi-billion-dollar bailout package for the companies in order to keep afloat the profits of shareholders and the salaries of CEOs, but when it came to aiding the thousands of workers laid off, Congressman Dick Armey said that that would be contrary to "the American spirit." Maybe it is. Maybe it's the "American spirit" to make common working people pay for a crisis and to bear the burdens of an expensive war. But it certainly doesn't have anything to do with "togetherness."


And the biggest lie of all . . .

Lie #1: "It's possible to win a 'war against terrorism.'"

Reality: Terrorism is a tactic, not a political or social force in and of itself. Anyone can use it, and the idea that you can wage a "war" against it is as dishonest as the idea behind the "War on Drugs." The use of food as a political weapon, indiscriminate aerial bombardment, and the arming of gangsterish groups of religious fanatics all count as "terrorism" by any reasonable definition of the word, and the United States has long employed all of them -- and more. This war is really about sordid material interests and power (see especially Lies numbers 2 and 4, above), and in defense of these interests the U.S. is prepared to shift the label "terrorist" as it sees fit, to apply to all manner of dissident political movements and not just marginal bands of fanatics like bin Laden's al-Qa'ida. Conversely, it's willing to call its own terrorists "freedom fighters" (see Lie number 3 above). Maybe some of them will get transformed into "terrorists" again in a few years. It's a sick game and a charade, and the government is manipulating the very real grief and anger of the people of the United States after the September 11 atrocities to get us all to fall for it again. Don't believe them for a second. ___

Produced by the Anti-War Committee of Students in Solidarity at the University of Pittsburgh”

“Damn SH...... Give it up!!!!!!!”

“LOL!...I've just begun!”

“really tho.. is it possible to end terror??


as long as there are people there will be extreamism”

“the post was written by a bunch of students from the U. of Pittsburgh.

That explains it. Everyone here knows our universities are filled largely with stupid people.

A bunch of 20 year olds with one or two semesters of politically correct history. That's a reliable source of information. Who's the bigger moron -- the pathetic culls that wrote the piece or the ignorati that believe it?”

“Ahhh Yes, the University Of Pittsburgh (also known as the Harvard of the rust belt). Such a bastian of intellectual diversity, a veritable think tank for our nations youth, a cultural mecca if you will. These students are forging ahead on the cusp of...blah...blah...blah...

Who cares what a bunch of 18 college kids think. H@ll my friends had some really stupid ideas...till they graduated and had to pay their own bills. Very unimpressed.”

“Have you ever hear the old saying "Every once in a while a blind hog finds an acorn." ?

Well those "blind hogs" over at U Pitt found five of them.”

“As a HOG fan I am insulted by the comparison.”

“I did take some time to read the first few points. There are so many factual errors, I can't believe you even posted this.”

“not possible to eliminate terror, but possible to get rid of the terror pros and slow things down for a while.”

“So, what are some of the factual errors?”

“Very weak, SH..”

“Anybody watch TV on 09/11/2001? If they are lies they are being told for the benefit those who will not inform themselves as to what is going on in the world...Hey boys & girls this is us against them.They don't play by the same rules as we do--and as history shows we attempt to rebuild what we may destroy-I bet Germany & Japan and
Italy will aggree.”

“If students know so much, then why are they still in school?”

“If these students know so much, then why are they still in school?”

“The "Diamond Sutra" of knowledge about Amerika's War on Terrorism is at the top of this page. Be sure to read it today.”

“no”

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“Powell Calls Report of Falling Terrorism a 'Big Mistake'

WASHINGTON (June 13) - A State Department report that incorrectly showed a decline last year in terrorism worldwide was a ''big mistake,'' Secretary of State Colin Powell said Sunday.

He said he was working with the CIA, which helped to compile the data, to determine why the errors got into the report.

''Very embarrassing. I am not a happy camper over this. We were wrong,'' the secretary told NBC's ''Meet the Press.''

Powell said he planned a meeting on the issue Monday and that the intelligence agency was working through the weekend in preparation......

The April report said attacks had declined last year to 190, down from 198 in 2002 and 346 in 2001. The 2003 figure would have been the lowest level in 34 years and a 45 percent drop since 2001, Bush's first year as president.

The report also showed the virtual disappearance of attacks in which no one died.

full article: http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20040613121209990002&_mpc=news%2e6”

“oops looks like you need an aol password for that, here's another site with the story:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=542&e=3&u=/ap/20040613/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/powell_terror_report”

“Massaging immature data can be a risky business.”

“MORE SADDAM WMD EVIDENCE

UN weapons experts have found 20 engines used in banned Iraqi missiles in a scrap yard in Jordan, along with other equipment that could be used to make weapons of mass destruction. The UN team was following up on an earlier discovery of another Al Samoud 2 missile engine in the Dutch port of Rotterdam. Imagine that! Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and he got rid of them. Wait..we already knew that.

It really might be just a matter of time before somebody finds the whole enchilada. Saddam was hiding something, or he wouldn't have kicked out the UN weapons inspectors in 1998. Where did it go? What did he do with it? Is it in Syria? Jordan? Buried in the desert? Of course, the left and the media are fully on Saddam's side...he couldn't have possibly been lying when he said he had no banned weapons. Given his trustworthy record of compliance, we should have no reason to doubt his story. Uh-huh.

So what is it going to take? Sarin was discovered in Iraq, so was mustard gas. Now these missile engines and WMD-making materials...when will the doubters believe? The answer is that they already believe. They're not doubters. They know the truth. They're detractors. Their goal is to defeat George Bush and to weaken America. If tomorrow, the United States announced that they had discovered Iraqi nuclear warheads buried in the desert, Democrats and the media would accuse the Bush administration of planting them there. Defeating Bush comes first. Protecting us from terrorism comes second ... if at all.”

“Well then, we should invade Jordan, Syria & Holland immediately.”

“no BM, read the last line again....”

“Spell it out, strat, I had a lot of alcohol this weekend and I'm still recovering. ;)

You're connecting defeating Iraq with fighting terrorism? Now that Iraq is defeated we win?”

“That would be hilarious if it wasn't so desperately sad.

Ya Know, Dewd, if they found nuclear warheads in Iraq, they would HAVE to have come from somewhere else because.... listen closely.... IRAQ NEVER HAD THE MATERIALS OR THE MEANS TO MAKE THEM.


You have lost your #&%!$ing mind.”

“1. iraq was better off under hussein

2. the situation is hopeless and there is no good coming from us being there

3. the good people of iraq don't want us there

4. iraq didn't have WMDs

5. tilt is a rational thinker and never pees in the pool”

“Ya got some of that corn stuck, strat....”

“i'm no corn sticker, but i am a pretty corn shucker......














[walks away mumbling]”

“"UN weapons experts have found 20 engines used in banned Iraqi missiles in a scrap yard in Jordan"

Were those engines scrap metal, or just dis-assembled into many still functional parts?

Either way, Hussien was sponsoring terrorism, mass killings of his own people and trying to obtain nuclear technology.”

“Dubya's Dilemma: Daddy Doesn't Support the Iraq War
By TERESA HAMPTON
Editor, Capitol Hill Blue
Jun 14, 2004, 01:00

Segment of story....


“George H.W. Bush is a pro,” says Darlene Atkins, a former campaign worker for the elder Bush. “He makes sure the facts are on his side before he moves. It concerns him that his son did not exercise what he feels was appropriate caution before launching the war with Iraq.”

Bush’s father has told Republican leaders that he fears Iraq will cost his son a second term in the White House, calling the war “his read-my-lips donnybrook,” a reference to the elder Bush’s flip-flop on tax increases that many feel led to his defeat in the 1992 elections.

In addition, the former President has told his son that he “messed up big time” in trying to tie Saddam Hussein to the 9/11 attacks against the United States. The elder Bush points out that a State Department assessment released after the September 11 attacks lists 45 countries (including the United States) where al-Qaeda operated and notes that Iraq was not one of those countries.

John McLaughlin, Deputy Director of the CIA, told Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz Iraq was not on the list. A spokesman for the Deputy Secretary confirmed McLaughlin’s briefing of Wolfowitz.

“The problem President Bush has when it comes to CIA intelligence is that his daddy knows a lot more about what goes on at Langley than he does,” says a former intelligence officer. “He also knows how the White House can drive the outcome of intel assessments.”

Complete story”

“Getting Bush re-elected comes first.

Keeping America safe from terrorists comes second or third or.....

Watching strat show is ass....priceless.”

“LMMFAO ! ! !

Hmmmmm, that cut and paste from strat sounds like Anne Coulter.

"They're detractors. Their goal is to defeat George Bush and to weaken America."

Yeah, sure, traitors one and all!!!”