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going at your gear with a knife
Sorry, the heading is a bit sensationalist.
Do you find it necessary to go the hack and cut off all those annoying buckles and straps, rip out compartment dividers and chop off about 30cm of waist belt? Have you had to do it to other gear as well.
Bunyip
8:05:58 AM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
I chop up all my gear. If there's no use for it, it's gone. Ice ax loops are worthless here in Ohio. All tags and labels go. I stuff the thing full and then cut off all the extra strap.
Nigal
9:19:10 AM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
Yes I do but you should always use the scissors and be careful to point them down when you walk and not run with them.
MaryPhyl
11:09:14 AM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
Yes I do but you should always use the scissors and be careful to point them down when you walk and not run with them.
MaryPhyl
11:13:47 AM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
lol MP. No, and I am wondering when those stupid straps are going to get caught in the baggage carousel at the airport.
Bizstalker
12:43:18 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
Leave them on, God put them there for a reason.
deathmarch99
12:49:52 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
I just got done wacking off a few ounces from a pack I just got last night.
It had a built in hip belt to convert the hood into a fanny pack. *Snip Snip* that was about 6 oz right there. Now I just gotta trim some straps down to a respectable length.
walkindude
12:49:58 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
You don't like that feature WD?
roseymonster
2:08:20 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
I'd never use it and it cut the pack weight about 6 oz. by revoving it.
walkindude
2:09:49 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
I cut the stuff once and regreted it all. I choped the handle off my teathbrush, and it was so hard to use I didn't even bother with it. Leave the straps long, you are going to miss those extra 3 inches when you have help out a friend that can't carry their pack, so you as a kind person take some gear.
ice tea
2:59:23 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
Leave the extra straps on. Just because it fit you with a single wicking layer on, doesn't mean it'll fit you with thermals, fleece, and gortex layers on. Besides, if you ever put on weight...
Markar
3:44:48 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
Yeah, if you ever put on weight....
Dunadan
4:09:26 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
I found that out the hard way. Clipped the "unnecessary" length off of my sternum strap.
Got a desk job and gained 30lbs.
The straps a wee bit tight now.
humanpackmule
4:11:56 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
I hack the crap outta all my gear. If I don't need it I ain't carrying it. I have a hard time not cutting the tags out of my work shirts.
Le Subtil
4:22:08 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
I cut the tags off everything too Le Subtil. They're scratchy
Bizstalker
4:42:48 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
Trust me, I didn't cut off any lenght of anything I may need. I'm not as stupid as I look.
walkindude
6:00:02 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
It's against the law to remove some tags. Be careful.
Leatherneck
6:16:57 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
That's a matter of opinion Dude! LOL!!!!!
Spam
6:39:32 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
Spam
I was wondering who was going to be the first to say something like that. LOL!!
walkindude
6:45:50 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
Couldn't help myself Dude, you opened that can of worms.Plus I wouldn't cut on my gear.
Spam
6:51:03 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
Need some spare webbing? Never used and only cut once.
walkindude
6:52:27 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
I think WDs new trail handle is "deaddude_that_whished_he_didn't_cut_that_strap-and_in_the_winter_neglected_to_carry_a_warmer_jacket_because_his_pack_didn't_hold_it"
ice tea
8:46:03 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
One of the things I like most about my pack is that it can cinch down tight on a weekend worth of stuff or expand to hold a week's worth. It couldn't do that if I trimmed the "extra".
skullcap
8:54:35 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
And you don't look cool unless you have straps hanging all over the place.
deathmarch99
9:08:26 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
I'm a trail nerd.
walkindude
10:34:09 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
If I want it simple, I'll buy it that way in the first place.
Gear Slut
11:04:47 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
yes but doesn't cutting all those tags make you feel insecure? I mean, what if you accidently cut one that says for 'consumer's only' like on pillows and they didn't mean you and the tag police come to get you?? :oD besides, deathmarch is right...you look far cooler with all those extra straps flapping in the breeze
littleTX
11:14:54 PM
11/18/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
The night before we started the JMT, I took the scissors out and started snipping, and threw a sandwich baggie packed with labels away.
Snow Nymph 2001
2:15:46 AM
11/19/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
i have had too many instances where i want to lash something to the outside and i was glad to have the extra strap, especially since the option would be to carry extra strap. blech!
radagast
8:43:01 AM
11/19/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
The only bits I'd take off of my pack would be the extra length of hip strap. I should do it but I won't just in case I get pregnant again. I use the ice axe loop to hold my trekking poles when I'm not using them. Everything else serves a purpose. I could take off the label but I'd probably just sew a smokey the bear patch on where it was. My pack is just the way I like it. Don't have any problems with those of you who do mutilate your gear, don't even think you'll die because of it! :o)
Sassafras
9:09:35 AM
11/19/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
An ounce here, an ounce there...when you throw the water in your pack it's makes the pack heavy, then drink as you drink it the pack weight slowly decreases. Leave a 1/4-Cup of water out of your waterbag and you've made up for those burdening extra ounces.

Loose a pound off your belly and you've definitly made up much more than the tremendous extra weight of those unwanted straps and buckles.

Those few ounces saved by hacking at your pack are negligible when it comes right down to it...it's all in your head!











And Mr.dude, I can't believe you destroyed a good dayhiking hippack conversion belt from yer pack. My hippack conversionability has come in handy many times. To each his own, I guess.
Buddur
9:44:45 AM
11/19/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
I cut a lb of straps off my gregory. It weighs 6 lbs, and there's no way I could carry more weight in the pack and enjoy my trips. Even with cut straps I was able to carry a extra 10 lbs to get someone out.

My Mtnsmith Chimera is light enough the straps are still uncut. The straps on that pack aren't as long as the Gregory's loose straps
Snow Nymph 2001
10:10:06 AM
11/19/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
Everything goes through the "do I need this crap" check. I know my hiking style very well and know what I'll never use, so away it goes.

The truth though is now I make a great deal of my gear so I hardly ever need to trim something off because I made it to my own specs. And most of what I don't make wasn't made for backpacking anyway. I found standard items from Wal-Mart can make better "no frills" hiking gear than the expensive over built stuff from an outfitters.

I've got a garage full of packs, cups, tents, stoves, pots, etc. and I use a lemonade jar, plastic spoon, old catfood can, and a empty soda bottle.
SGT R0ck
10:28:52 AM
11/19/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
Whew!
I was afraid this was a Lorena Bobbit thread!
Violin
11:51:38 AM
11/19/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
If there are too many straps, buy a different model or brand.
Gear Slut
1:01:34 PM
11/19/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
If you don't like the pack style, why'd you buy it in the first place? Mine has one front pocket and 2 side pockets, good for the stuff you might want in a hurry, and an external frame, sleeping bag and tent lashed to the bottom, and pad under the top flap.I have a newer Lowe pack with all the straps you're talking about, mostly duct tape up all the loose straps and buckles so they don't flap or jangle,, haven't needed them yet, but have had to lash some odd things to the framepack in my time,, internal wouldn't have worked (for you ultralight fans, try packing a replacement woodstove to Liberty Cabin).Everybody likes something different, makes life interesting.
swamp yankee
8:42:19 PM
11/19/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
Wooowee, bet that was a heavy pack SwampYankee!!! I have a lowe too. Heavier than some packs but just right for me. I'd buy another one before trying a different brand.
Sassafras
8:51:14 PM
11/19/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
I buy packs on how comfortabke the harness is, not on how many bits I can tie on. If I have to tie something on, then I haven't packed it properly. Everything goes INTO the pack or stays at home.
Bunyip
8:31:31 AM
11/20/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
I hate it when packs jingle and rattle and squeak. I agree Bunyip except for in the case of the poles.
Sassafras
8:46:33 AM
11/20/01

RE: going at your gear with a knife
i try not to put wet clothes or ponchos in my bag until they dry.
radagast
8:49:14 AM
11/20/01

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