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LISTEN UP MAGGOTS! IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT MY BELOVED CORPS HAS BEEN TRAINING WOMEN AS MARINES. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS NATION!!!!!!!!!

IN ORDER TO PREVENT A POTENTIAL BREAK DOWN OF OUR FINE TRADITION I OFFER THESE TIPS TO THE USMC LEADERSHIP!

Eleven Tips on Getting More Efficiency Out of Women Employees

There's no longer any question whether transit companies should hire women for jobs formerly held by men. The draft and manpower shortage has settled that point. The important things now are to select the most efficient women available and how to use them to the best advantage. Here are eleven helpful tips on the subject from western properties:

1. If you can get them, pick young married women. They have these advantages, according to the reports of western companies: they usually have more of a sense of responsibility than do their unmarried sisters; they're less likely to be flirtatious; as a rule, they need the work or they wouldn't be doing it -- maybe a sick husband or one who's in the army; they still have the pep and interest to work hard and to deal with the public efficiently.

2. When you have to use older women, try to get ones who have worked outside the home at some time in their lives. Most transportation companies have found that older women who have never contacted the public, have a hard time adapting themselves, are inclined to be cantankerous and fussy. It's always well to impress upon older women the importance of friendliness and courtesy.

3. While there are exceptions, of course, to this rule, general experience indicates that "husky" girls - those who are just a little on the heavy side - are likely to be more even-tempered and efficient than their underweight sisters.

4. Retain a physician to give each woman you hire a special physical examination - one covering female conditions. This step not only protects the property against the possibilities of lawsuit but also reveals whether the employee-to-be has any female weaknesses which would make her mentally or physically unfit for the job. Transit companies that follow this practice report a surprising number of women turned down for nervous disorders.

5. In breaking in women who haven't previously done outside work, stress at the outset the importance of time -- the fact that a minute or two lost here and there makes serious inroads on schedules. Until this point is gotten across, service is likely to be slowed up.

6. Give the female employe in garage or office a definite day-long schedule of duties so that she'll keep busy without bothering the management for instructions every few minutes. Numerous properties say that women make excellent workers when they have their jobs cut out for them but that they lack initiative in finding work themselves.

7. Whenever possible, let the inside employe change from one job to another at some time during the day. Women are inclined to be nervous and they're happier with change.

8. Give every girl an adequate number of rest periods during the day. Companies that are already using large numbers of women stress the fact that you have to make some allowances for feminine psychology. A girl has more confidence and consequently is more efficient if she can keep her hair tidied, apply fresh lipstick and wash her hands several times a day.

9. Be tactful in issuing instructions or in making criticisms. Women are often sensitive; they can't shrug off harsh words the way that men do. Never ridicule a woman - it breaks her spirit and cuts her efficiency.

10. Be reasonably considerate about using strong language around women. Even though a girl's husband or father may swear vociferously, she'll grow to dislike a place of business where she hears too much of this.

11. Get enough size variety in operator uniforms that each girl can have a proper fit. This point can't be stressed too strongly as a means of keeping women happy, according to western properties.

THESE 11 TIPS CAN ALSO BE APPLIED TO THE LIKES OF ICE TEA, WALKINDUDE, BACPAC, BAUME 66, PEDXING AND ANY OF YOU OTHER SISSIES OUT THERE!

NO DO SOME D@MN PUSHUPS MAGGOT!
Drill Instructor Hartman
9:09:26 PM
12/01/01

"SISSIES"

I'm not the one trying to put down othere people only to boost there selfesteem.
Ice Tea
9:14:23 PM
12/01/01

SON IT LOOKS LIKE THE BEST PART OF YOU RAN DOWN THE CRACK OF YOUR MOMMAS @SS AND ENDED UP A STAIN ON THE MATTRESS!!! PERSONNALLY I THINK YOU BEEN CHEATED!!!

DOWN PUSHUPS YOU SNIVELLING WIMP!
Drill Instructor Hartman
9:16:14 PM
12/01/01

Aw, you're behind the times, Hart-Man.

These were the hiring rules for women in the work force in WW 2.
mel
9:29:28 PM
12/01/01

All I could see was that poor little monkey, trying to put the cork back in.
Tilt
10:28:24 PM
12/01/01

um.....no beer?....
trailpoet
11:13:22 PM
12/01/01

how many pushups do you want senior drill instructor, sir.
baume 66
4:52:13 AM
12/02/01

mel's got it!

The language is "antiquated",....

I wonder if the DRILL can do any push-ups.....so far its all talk.

Tom Terrific
11:23:31 AM
12/02/01

hartman must be former drill instructor.
No doubt kicked out by the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy.
gordon
7:08:33 PM
12/02/01

Good on ya Mel!
Mr. Wanna Be Drill Instructor, you need to get your head out of your @ss and get with the times... these are the '00s and women work just as hard as men... as for those women joining the Marines, if they can perform as well as the men, what the heck's your beef???
medic_girl
2:33:03 AM
12/03/01

LISTEN UP PRIVATE SNIVELSH!T (TOM TERRIFIC)!!!! COMMENTS LIKE YOURS MAKE ME MADDER THAN A ONE_WINGED HORNET WITH HIS @SSHOLE TAPED SHUT! I CAN OUT DRINK,OUT FIGHT THE LIKES OF YOU! NOW DROP YOUR QUILTING AND DO PUSHUPS!

PRIVATE JACK@SS (GORDON)! IF YOU DONT ASK I WONT TELL YOU HOW WORTHLESS YOU ARE! DO SOME PUSHUPS YOU TWINKLE-TOED PUSSBUCKET!

AND YOU PRIVATE N.O.W. (MEDIC GIRL)! TAKE OF YOUR SHOES,GET IN THE KITCHEN, AND MAKE MY D@MN DINNER! DO SOME REAL PUSHUPS! NOT THOSE WIMPY WOMEN PUSHUPS WHERE YOUR KNEES STAY ON THE GROUND!
Drill Instructor Hartman
5:48:58 PM
12/03/01

They say that in the Marine Corps the women are mighty Fine. They look like Phyllis Diller and walk like Frankenstein!
Leatherneck
8:27:33 PM
12/03/01

Does it bother anyone else that amid all this talk of liberating Afghan women from restrictions including wearing a head-to-toe burqa, female troops in Saudi Arabia have to wear a similar outfit when off base?
Violin
3:17:41 PM
12/05/01

Whaddafa'?
newgirl
3:28:37 PM
12/05/01

Yeah, I heard that report on NPR this morning. It's amazing the difference a little piece of paper makes, isn't it?
skullcap
3:30:46 PM
12/05/01

hartman is just jealous.
He knows the most feminine dainty old lady could kick his sissywimp puny @ss. he's all talk no action.
gordon
3:38:36 PM
12/05/01

Watch the miliatary eco challange last night! Air force beats em all! Marines dropped out...
Mozark
8:05:56 AM
12/06/01

It's a man's job--
Come on my friends-The guys are supposed to do the killing-it ain't natural-WE THE MALES ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT YOU-
Please let us do this-
I grew up an Army Brat-but the most dominant person in my life is my mom.
She,my wife, both my babies are my joys-I even have female dogs.
This is not a judgement- this is our duty.
Testoserone be damned-
Semper Fidelis Leatherneck-
JOSH MAN
6:00:32 PM
12/06/01

bull#&%!$
Drill Instructor?Either you're a liar or you've had your head up your ass for the twenty years that I know of,that women have been trained as Marines.
John McKernan
12:13:14 PM
12/07/01

Joshman, your duty in your mind may be to protect the 'weaker' sex... but women can fire a weapon just as easily as men. In fact, did you know that women have better hand-eye coordination than men do? If we want to fight beside our fellow soldiers to keep our country free, why shouldn't we?

DIH, go make your own d@m Kraft Dinner... and get me a beer while you're at it!!
medic_girl
6:19:17 PM
12/08/01

Sorry medic_girl, can't agree with you a 100% on this one.

Wouldn't it be interesting (and sad, of course) if a country sent an army of female soldiers to fight an army of male soldiers from another country? Of course, all equipment, technologies, spy networks etc. have to be equal (an impossibility in modern times). This would be the ultimate man-vs-woman testing ground.

When it comes down to it, mano a mano (?), man is stronger (in general) and more savage than woman. That said, if any woman wants to go fight a war and have their head shot off, go ahead. Hope this doesn't offend anybody.
stanlee
1:23:45 AM
12/09/01

If I remember correctly, all the women of the Donner Party survived.

Don't piss them off; they'll have your liver for lunch, LOL
Tilt
1:46:57 AM
12/09/01

Only if I don't get them first. heh heh

FEMALE HANNIBALS UNITE...eeek
stanlee
2:12:09 AM
12/09/01

One of my favorite people in the whole world is a guy I teach with. He is 82 years old. He retired from industry at age 65 and has been teaching full-time ever since. He was a marine in WWII (joined Dec. 8, 1941) and was recalled for the Korean War. I found out last week over lunch that during the Korean War he was in charge of training all the DI's at Camp Pendleton!! Facinating!
Phil
10:50:11 AM
12/09/01

The female is the deadly of the species
Contrary to the belief of some posters here women are as aggressive and more capable of savagery than men. Well known fact in the psychology/behavior world. Men have better muscular strength, women have more physical and mental endurance.

Also the London Blitz when the populace was holed up in the shelters for extended periods the women fared much better psychologically than men.

It has long been thought that an army of women would be more successful in a protracted war than men. Our cultural prejudices prevent that from being tested.
gordon
5:35:06 PM
12/09/01

True, what you said Gordon. In the 70's NASA tested women for space travel...most of them fared better than man...in terms of psychological, endurance, hand-eye-co-ordination and body temperature control etc.

Even in ancient Eastern history ie.; Japan and China, a lot of good fighters were women. But it's like 1 female to 10,000 males.
stanlee
11:05:41 PM
12/09/01

I aggree Medic Girl...
My comment was not intended to portray women as "weaker"-
I simply believe that the dynamic of the foxhole would be changed.
I aggree women can-but is it necessary for them to?
JOSH MAN
7:40:04 AM
12/10/01

I take the unpopular opinion here, I agree with Josh Man. Women could do it, but I think it best that they don't...Look at it this way, you don't send the ones that are capable of replinishing the population to be killed. Any farmer can tell you that. Besides, can you see several women trying to get along with each other under those circumstances??? Ok, blast away!
bpbaby
7:46:02 AM
12/10/01

Bpbaby, is that a red dot on your forehead right now? hee hee
stanlee
3:52:14 PM
12/10/01

Well, ok JOSH MAN, but I won't wear a burka!
skullcap
3:58:25 PM
12/10/01

Who like story prolems?

Take one AVERAGE 170lbs man who is a soldier and one AVERAGE 145lbs women equally trained. Put them in a ring with standard issue gear (minus bullets). They must
fight to the death like in war. Who do you bet on ?

Psycologically women may fair better but for brute strength in combat a man wins 99 outta 100 times.

The standards for women in basic training are different than mens. If a women does less push-ups,pull ups and runs slower than a man then, she IS weaker. Not a judgement on the quality or character of a woman but a SIMPLE call on physical strength.
Birch
4:48:14 PM
12/10/01

There's a lot more to fighting than pure brute force.
skullcap
4:50:00 PM
12/10/01

true skullcap, but the 3 components to a soldiers physical training are strength,mobility and endurance (according to the field manuals).

according to http://www.benning.army.mil/USApfs/Training/APFT/PUscores.htm

The 2 mile run for a 17-21y/o man is 13:00min for 100%

For a women of the same age the 100% is earned for the same distance done in 15:36min

A man running the 15:36min pace would earn a 64%...failing!

Pushups for a 17-21 y/o man. 71 in two minutes for 100%

Same excercise for same aged woman. 42 push-ups for 100%

A man who does 42 push-ups in two minutes earns a 60%...failing!

Sit-up standard is equal for men and women.
Birch
5:07:32 PM
12/10/01

Yeah, I have always thought they should change those requirements. For goodness sakes, I'm 34 years old and I could get 100% on the 17-21 men's requirements. Why aren't they tougher than that?
skullcap
5:12:43 PM
12/10/01

Who knows skullcap. I have been out for 8 years and in that time the run time has SLOWED for men 17-21 by 50 seconds for a 100%,sad!

I can still run a 13 min 2 mile and I smoke a pack a day.
Birch
5:28:56 PM
12/10/01

what lax standards!
I can beat those and I'm an old crippled out-of-shape couch potato.

I know a couple of women that would smoke the men's standards and not break a sweat.
gordon
1:21:19 PM
12/11/01

Ummmm....hello?....gordon....I AM a woman!
skullcap
2:10:44 PM
12/11/01

hear her roar :-)
lyra
2:12:25 PM
12/11/01

. ¦ ) .
skullcap
2:15:01 PM
12/11/01

I'M WOMAN, I'M STRONG....

You go girl.
stanlee
10:08:58 PM
12/11/01

Thanks Bp & skullcap
The female of the species can and does nuture and replenish.
I think any women is more than capable-and willing should the need arise. Take the Isreali women-mandatory service-Wow-
But think of the numerical difference between us and them.
It is a necessity that has not yet
come to pass for most of the european descendant countries.
By the way no burkas required...
Uh, what is a burka?
JOSH MAN
6:06:39 PM
12/12/01

A burka is a small french pastry...
Birch
7:19:44 PM
12/12/01

LOL Birch. Really though, unless humans have become an endangered species, I don't really think the numbers thing enters into it at all. Need doesn't enter into it either. We can, we want to, we should. End of story. It's called freedom.
skullcap
7:23:19 PM
12/12/01

I am all for women in combat. Just not in mixed gender platoons/squads...bad juju!
Birch
7:29:05 PM
12/12/01

I agree. Too distracting for both!
skullcap
7:33:07 PM
12/12/01

AMEN SISTER!
Birch
7:34:10 PM
12/12/01

Birch & Skullcap... I'm going to have to disagree with you here about the whole mixed gender platoon/company/regiment... I AM a female in a mixed gender regiment of engineers. While I am the company medic, I've sat in trenches for days at a time with my rifle(& sometimes the LMG[C9 in Canada])and MALE fire team partners & neither I nor the other FEMALE engineers have ever had a problem.

I think what it comes down to is that there are bad apples in every group(male & female) who spoil it for the rest of us who are actually out there to do our jobs.

Would you have the police switch to same gender partners to avoid the 'distraction' as you call it? Police in metropolitan centres(ie LA, NY, etc) are just as likely(I have no stats to compare) to be killed on the job as our troops are...
medic_girl
10:38:45 PM
12/12/01

Medic Girl, I am going to be really blunt here. Men are dogs, we are swine, we are smelly, bad mannered selfish and fairly simple (ask any wife). The problem arises in situations of long term deployment (something cops dont encounter). Remember Junior High and High school. The sole purpose of most males 8-80yrs old is to get chicks.Yes we can be sweet and endearing like a really helpful dog but its biology, marriage tempers things and keeps us faithful (idealy). In ANY group with single men and women there is flirting GAURANTEED! The trouble comes when soldiers become distracted because "their" sweety is in danger. We want to protect "our stuff" that is a problem. It is trouble for morale and for discipline. Look into the pregnancy rates of women aboard aircraft carriers when coed was introduced, STAGGERING!

BTW we arent talking days in the field. Infantry soldiers spend months in the field training broken up by wknds to clean up and repack. That kinda isolation from others mixed with 19 y/o boys and girls equals PREGNANCY and SERIOUS issues of internal breakdown.
Birch
3:29:38 PM
12/13/01

All I know is if he's hot, I'm distracted. If he's in danger, I'm even more so. And I think I might endanger myself and others trying to protect him. Pregnancy wouldn't be such an issue if birthcontrol were standard issue. I'm not saying make them use it, just make it readily available. Don't make them have to go get it.
skullcap
4:08:13 PM
12/13/01

Birch may have a low opinion of himself but he does not speak for all men.
gordon
4:10:13 PM
12/13/01

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