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Distrust of a corrupt administration(regime) does not translate into lack of support for those who serve in the armed forces......
......no matter how much some blow-hard fascist repeats his knuckle-headed mantra.

Questioning the loyalty or patriotism of one's political opposition is an old trick.

It seems to work for some who seem to not dare think beyond how and when they are told by their political masters.

Bah,baaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

Tom Terrific
11:32:16 AM
12/10/01

Tom, I think you'd agree there's a few sheep on both side of the fence.
le Subtil
11:36:41 AM
12/10/01

And for some on this list, a few in the sack!
roseymonster
11:40:20 AM
12/10/01

Just a few?
Gear Slut
11:42:55 AM
12/10/01

le Subtil-
You are right about that, sir.

Uh, I'm not getting the sack analogy.
Maybe I'm thick.......maybe, hell!

I take no pleasure in it, but I feel compelled to issue forth such nasty back-talk if the "front-talk" is going to be that ugly.

Though I voted for the previous scoundrel in the White(whore) House, I still didn't trust him in all of his endeavors.....go figure.

as always,
Doubting Thomas

Tom Terrific
11:52:46 AM
12/10/01

bacpac is a communist
"the whimpering cry to undermine American values begins anew." Hmmm...would that be like bacpac's desire to gag every person's opinion he doesn't like? Bacpac is just like Hitler and Stalin. Well bacpac, take your Nazi ideology and shove your communist manifesto up your @ss!
thebackpacker dot commie
1:44:25 PM
12/10/01

It's unfortunate that so many people these days are reluctant to take pride in being American. Hey, you want to dwell on this country's #&%!$ups? Be my guest, but while you're going through that undeniably thick dossier, you might want to remember that when you stomped into CIA Headquarters waving your Freedom of Information Act permission slip, you were not summarily hustled into a damp sub-basement where some jackbooted sadist with one eyebrow and tinted aviators that Elvis wouldn't wear is smoking unfiltered cigarettes that smell like a skunk getting a perm, as he clamps jumper cables on your nipples and starts humming the love theme from "Midnight Express." God bless America!

- Dennis Miller
Violin
2:05:56 PM
12/10/01

It fortunate for me that so many so-called patriotic Americans are willing to believe any bull#&%!$ and propaganda the government feeds them. God Bless blind ignorant patriotism.
George Dubya Evildoer
2:58:49 PM
12/11/01

I can see that the vast unlearned masses are stirring themselves up for another old fashioned flag waving session. This will happen when they get word that OBL is dead or captured.

The Amerikans will be happy for a few days until the government begins to circulate the story that OBL wasn't totally responsible for 911. Soon the Feds will tell you that the new most dangerous and rabid enemy of the sheeple is Saddam or some war lord in Somalia, Yemen, the Sudan, etc.

Then the electronic media and mainstream press will go to work and the sheeple will be stirred to a patriotic fever pitch. They will be slobbering and howling to go out and kill someone else.

"Who would dare question the goodness and democracy of Amerika?" the sheeple will shout.

And so it will start anew.

We never learn.
solitary hiker
5:05:49 PM
12/11/01

Hope this works!


American Flag: $25.00

Gasoline: $2.00           

Cigarette Lighter: $2.50

Catching yourself on fire because
you're a terrorist butthole...
PRICELESS!




American Express
Don't Leave Your Cave Without It!
nigal
1:29:34 PM
12/12/01

Good one nigal. Solitary your back....
Birch
2:23:43 PM
12/12/01

God Bless America
Kleetn, I appreciate freedom too. However it is not the first thing I think of when I consider what it means to be an American. Honor, loyalty, and responsibility are my American ideals.

Tom T, Corruption is a strong word. Back it up.

Solitary Hiker, What is a sheeple? Someone who has no positive life experiences? I recommend you make a list of your grievances and set up an appointment to speak with your State legislative representative and your representatives to the United States Congress. Report back.

To Everyone Else The silent majority is silent no more. I want to thank those of you with the courage to speak out. We can't all be warriors, but we sure as hell can be Patriots.

God Bless America
bacpac
7:01:47 PM
12/12/01

More moronic blind patriotism. "Honor, loyalty, and responsibility" will make for a perfect citizen in any communist, despot run, or basically any other country on the planet. If these are the ideals to which you think of first, perhaps you're not as patriotic an American as you think.

America was born from the fight for "freedom" and it is the cornerstone of what America stands for. Without freedom we're nothing.
Gear Slut
7:50:42 PM
12/12/01

PRIVATE BACPAC! FINALLY YOU DRAG YOUR SORRY CARCASS INTO THE FRAY! NO GO MAKE MY BELOVED CORPS PROUD AND STOMP THE LIFE OUTTA THESES SORRY PINKOS!
Drill Instructor Hartman
7:54:08 PM
12/12/01

Oh nigal, that's great!
skullcap
7:59:38 PM
12/12/01

Gear Slut is a fighter?
Gear slut, how do you fight for freedom?

What is a fight? Hurling insults? Hiring mercenaries? Cursing? Missing a meal? Complaining?
bacpac
8:06:00 PM
12/12/01

Whatever gets the job done and keeps it that way. One has to be on the lookout for people who want us to blindly follow the state like you.
Gear Slut
8:15:52 PM
12/12/01

What job?
Kinda vague, Slut. I am not sure what job you are refering to.

Baking cookies and taking them to soldiers and sailors who are hundreds of miles from home might help. Well it isn't very macho, but when I do it they seem to appreciate it.
bacpac
8:27:04 PM
12/12/01

The trouble with you is you still think (or don't think) like a jarhead. You're trained to do what you're told without questioning it. This is an admirable quality in the automatons who defend our country but it makes for a very poor citizen in the free world.

Nothing wrong with appreciating the efforts of the military.
Gear Slut
8:50:41 PM
12/12/01

Fight, Fight, Fight
Gear Slut, Thanks for the psycho-analysis of myself and the US Marine Corps.

UR an x-[pert
bacpac
9:28:56 PM
12/12/01

You're welcome...no charge.
Gear Slut
9:30:23 PM
12/12/01

Incredibly he/she thinks she actually did somethin
Sheeple?
bacpac
9:45:09 PM
12/12/01

If everyone will allow me a brief moment of shear childishness:

I’m so thankful we have had fighting men that would step up when called upon to get a job done. I could just see Slut down in the sh!t...

“Slut, get out on that front line and fight!”

“Well, gee sarge, I’ll have to really think this one through to figure out what the ramifications will be if I do fight. Ya know, I really should know about this conflict in side and out before I can make a judgment about weather it’s proper for me to fight for my country. I mean, I wouldn’t want to fall in line with all the other guys for no good reason. I can’t look like sheep ya know. I got a rep to worry about.”

If our military’s past were full of soft pukes like you we’d still be saluting the Union Jack and takin’ 4 o’clock tea.

We now return you to your usual TT maturity level.
nigal
12:01:31 AM
12/13/01

Very funny

hmmm, now you don't strike me as a person who acts without thinking first nigal.
Gear Slut
2:53:15 AM
12/13/01

There's an awful lot of speculation goin' on here about the courage and ability of others.

Some of the guys with the biggest mouth and most bluster about "patriotism" might well be the first to sh!t themselves when the bullets are snappin' by.

superpatriot-
Corruption???
Enron and friends and the plunder of California earlier this year by Texas-owned energy corporations that are FOB.....

Tom Terrific
7:15:19 AM
12/13/01

“hmmm, now you don't strike me as a person who acts without thinking first nigal.”

Well, actually I thought that one out very carefully. I even took out a few stronger words that were a bit much. I did regret hitting the submit button (after the fact) as it’s just not worth it. I have come to realize that when people are at different points of thinking this can effect how we view the other’s perspective. For example, if a person is a liberal cynic, they will naturally look upon a very pro American Way person’s views as ultra-patriot and call them a sheep. Which is very ironic because that same person is just as much a sheep for going with the cynical flow and crowd. There are no individuals in life and no matter how radical, rebellious and different one thinks they are being they are falling in with a crowd.
nigal
8:14:11 AM
12/13/01

Bacpac,

To me, anyway, honor, loyalty, and responsibility strike me as being very fine ideals. They do, to me anyway, seem more like Marine Corps ideals than American ideals (not to say that they aren't good things, they are).

How's that saying go? "Land of the Free, home of the Brave"?

"Liberty Enlightening the World" is the title the sculptor of the Statue of Liberty gave to her.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"
is part of the inscription on her base.

I still think we're all about FREEDOM.
kleetn
8:17:07 AM
12/13/01

Yes, but to maintain that freedom we sometimes have to fall back on those brave ones.
nigal
8:30:59 AM
12/13/01

It is about freedom. I'm sure the afgahni women and children are grateful for the opportunity to experience freedom. Would any here deny them that?
Sassafras
8:38:46 AM
12/13/01

I'm glad you made that point Nigal, about the cynics being their own croud. I get so tired of people that think they are really taking a stand, being an individual, second-guessing anything that the government does, anything that the rest of us say about being proud of our country, making us feel silly and embarrassed about wanting to wave a flag. We shouldn't have to worry about what the cynics, who also happen to be Americans, are going to say or think. Maybe some people don't think it through thoroughly before they sing along with Lee Greenwood, but so what it's nice to see people at least interested in their country.
GIJill
10:57:39 AM
12/13/01

Bacpac Put That Head Back Down and Keep Grazing
That way you can keep having those "positive life experiences."

But just don't go crying "Bahhhh, Baaaaaaaaaaaaah, Bahhhhhhh!!" when the criminals who really run this land use your child as cannon fodder for their own selfish enrichment.
solitary hiker
11:05:31 AM
12/13/01

I don't have a child.
GIJill
11:07:24 AM
12/13/01

And yes, that's all I have is positive life experiences. I'm glad you know me so well.
GIJill
11:08:44 AM
12/13/01

Nigal-
So, to maintain freedom sometimes a guy's gotta fall back whilst the brave ones move forward?

Oh, and uh, People For The American Way is a liberal organization.
They are watchdogs against the very right-wing blowhards and tyrants who are working overtime to take away our constitutional freedoms as we speak!

Lee Greedwood sucks!

Tom Terrific
11:09:31 AM
12/13/01

I'm not a Lee Greenwood fan, it was just an example.
GIJill
11:20:17 AM
12/13/01

"Yes, but to maintain that freedom we sometimes have to fall back on those brave ones."
nigal

Well hold on their son! George Dubya is the only BRAVE one fighting the evildoers. That's me - FIGHTER OF EVILDOERS - and that takes a big Texas sized portion of bravery. But the point is that we as Amerikans don't really have any brave ones anymore. I was afraid to send soldiers into Afghanistan because they might get shot and killed. Only after all the bombs had dropped and the enemy eliminated did we send in troops. It's far more brave to drop 15,000 poung DAISY-CUTTER bombs from 40,000 feet. You see, no Americans get killed that way, just innocent people who might be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Bravery is killing by bombing and cruise missiles; cowardice is actually eyeballing the enemy and surgically shooting only the them. At least that's the way I rationalize it.
George Dubya Evildoer
1:20:02 PM
12/13/01

George, would you please tell that rat-brained old man of yours to stop meddling in the afairs of state.

You are the one who stole the presidency and he had his chance to steal from the U.S. taxpayers.

That old fart lost in '92 in spite of staging TWO Wag-The-Dog wars which drove his approval rating through the Oval Office roof.
Amerikans sure are suckers for a war.
But after the dust settles and Lee Greenback stops singing(thank goodness!) its all about the ECONOMY STOOPID!!!

Tom Terrific
1:29:37 PM
12/13/01

Tom, you are Terrific.
GIJill
1:36:35 PM
12/13/01

“So, to maintain freedom sometimes a guy's gotta fall back whilst the brave ones move forward?”

No, my point was that our freedoms are maintained by those brave ones. I didn’t mean it in the way you put it.

“Oh, and uh, People For The American Way is a liberal organization.”

Never heard of them. I was speaking on the ideals this country stands for and I felt it was important enough to capitalize.
nigal
4:34:10 PM
12/13/01

What am I even doing here?
Debating a person who cannot distiguish fact from fantasy is a waste of time. I have wasted enough time.
bacpac
4:37:54 PM
12/13/01

A person who is always declaring he's no fool usually has his suspicions.
kleetn
4:48:47 PM
12/13/01

Freedom is maintained by those capabale of distinguishing what it is. The rest just follow orders.
Gear Slut
7:39:16 PM
12/13/01

oops sp. "capable"
Gear Slut
7:48:13 PM
12/13/01

Blah blah frickin' blah. Lots of whinnin' no solutions. Lots of accusations no VERIFIED evidence. PSUEDO- individualists toeing the line with hundreds of thousands of other PSUEDO-individualists.

It reminds me of the " alternative/punk rock " kids at our high schools. Who say " I dress like this to be unique" yet they are in a group of 25 others who look the same. Hillarious! Juvenile! and d@mn Ignorant!

Gear slut you said "Whatever gets the job done and keeps it that way." Thats what the CIA does, dont you hate them...errrr I am so confused. This is quite a riddle. If you and Solitary contradict yourselves anymore you are gonna REALLY look silly!
Birch
8:13:21 PM
12/13/01

BP....

I believe GS was denied being breast fed as a baby.

The rest of humanity will suffer because of this lack of a childhood sugar-tit.
mel
8:24:02 PM
12/13/01

mel, you need help

Birch I have never said anything against the CIA. Get your facts straight.
Gear Slut
8:32:29 PM
12/13/01

Huh, huh huh!
She said..."sugar-tit"...
nigal
10:59:06 PM
12/13/01

Birch,
I've never contradicted myself in any of these posts. The problem is, you don't have an adequate grasp of what you read. Go back and find one instance where you think I contradicted myself. Read it over two or three times and really read something for once in your life.
solitary hiker
6:32:37 AM
12/14/01

I thought he was more Left-brained than Rat-brained.
Tilt
7:10:56 AM
12/14/01

i guess i'm just a confused person...

i've got several liberal beliefs, yet i love and support the US (but not necessarily our president). on a very generic note, i have a flag in my apt., on my baseball cap, and on my car, and have done so for years before 9/11/01. i may be in need of some guidance, any help would be appreciated.
jmitch
7:17:03 AM
12/14/01

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