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Neels Gap to Woody Gap 12/29/01-12/30/01 ?View Messages“Anyone want to do a short 20 miler?” 2:01:43 PM 12/18/01 “Yes, but I'm not sure of the logistics of getting there. It's a pretty good drive for me.” 2:07:54 PM 12/18/01 “Would love to go, but can't. Are you going there and back? I don't recall that being 20 miles one way. You've got a nasty climb either way you go. Coming out of Woody Gap headed North is pretty tough. The view at the top is priceless.” 2:07:59 PM 12/18/01 “Wade Baker is going.. (outdoorsbound.com) just talked to him on the phone. -- but he is being dropped off and picked up.. so can't count on him for any shuttle.. so ya.. it's a stretch.. but thought if someone else wanted to go, I could drive down Friday night and we could get our cars set up for Sat/Sun.” 2:12:39 PM 12/18/01 “It is still a possibility I'm just not sure of it. How big a drive is it for you TD? It's about 7 to 8 for me. (I'm guessing)” 2:15:07 PM 12/18/01 “same for me.. a solid 8” 2:16:01 PM 12/18/01 “Do a map search to Suches, GA. It should get you close.” 2:16:38 PM 12/18/01 “For a TN boy, you aren't close to anything. That's like living in Florida and not being able to get to the beach.” 2:18:28 PM 12/18/01 “DAYHIKER.. lol.. I have directions.. hehe.. I have all the trail guides.. just never BEEN there.. @baps you! but ya.. living in WEST TENNESSEE sux sometimes.. :) Anywhere that I would consider hiking is a good 5 hr drive for SURE, and most are 7-8.” 2:21:09 PM 12/18/01 “I've been to Neels Gap but I don't remember the driving time involved. Heck I live at the beach and am nowhere near the mountains!” 2:26:43 PM 12/18/01 “ha! i live, like... an HOUR away! mooWAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!” 2:26:55 PM 12/18/01 “so why don't you go, ya little hobbit? we need someone to carry our beer.” 2:28:57 PM 12/18/01 “Crash at Rad's house!” 2:29:24 PM 12/18/01 “i may be intoxicated, at a cabin, in the tennessee smokies!” 2:31:37 PM 12/18/01 “Rad: ya.. how about we drive in friday.. and crash at your place..” 2:31:56 PM 12/18/01 “just leave the keys under the mat.” 2:32:30 PM 12/18/01 “HPM, was it you that posted that link to a Boy Scouts GSMNP trip in the snow. If so, could you relink it. I was going to show it to my wife and couldn't find it a again. Too many threads, too little time.” 2:39:38 PM 12/18/01 “heh.. that story is the BEST!” 2:42:19 PM 12/18/01 2:46:34 PM 12/18/01 “Thanks, those are some great pics. Are you going back to the Smokies this year?” 3:43:37 PM 12/18/01 “Thanks Most likely the Smokies or in that general area, they really love it there. Two years ago they did Pisgah.” 6:11:07 PM 12/18/01 “Argh there I go posting with my wife's account again.” 6:11:58 PM 12/18/01 “Ever been to Joyce Kilmer? I haven't, but am thinking of looking into it for a future trip. Treebait? Does that mean you wife is not a particularly good fisherperson?” 8:23:50 AM 12/19/01 “Never been to JK but want to. Nope, it means the trees are out to get her.” 9:21:10 AM 12/19/01 “Ohhhh, do the trees talk to her as well?” 9:31:33 AM 12/19/01 “LOL! No, not at all like that. She has had several close calls with big falling trees and had a big branch actually fall on her and knock her off the trail once. So it became kind of a joke (after her knee got better anyway) that the trees were out to get her. Hence Treebait.” 10:33:06 AM 12/19/01 “Yo Dawg, I'm good to go.” 10:55:43 AM 12/19/01 “I will check once I get home (I'm in memphis at the public library)” 2:36:37 PM 12/19/01 “I was in that area 2 weekends ago..stopped in at the Walasi Yi center and one of the guys there was telling me about a hunter finding a body about a mile or two North of the center..supposedly it was a thru hiker..they found his gear earlier in the year...Sent it home but never heard from him..Anybody hear about this? Count me as a maybe for the hike..” 4:29:18 PM 12/19/01 “I got out my AT book last night on this. I need to send Wade an email, and will do so right now. Neels Gap to Woody Gap is only 10.7 miles, so I don't see where he is getting 20 miles, unless he is thinking of making it an 'out and back' which I will NOT do. I was thinking what might be nice would be to do this as a dayhike, and then go do the 8.8 approach trail up Springer the next day.” 7:42:34 AM 12/20/01 “I don't know TD. Maybe we can get a hold of someone to shuttle us or do our own car shuttle.” 7:47:37 AM 12/20/01 “shuttle is not a problem, we have possibly 4-5 ppl going.” 7:49:24 AM 12/20/01 “evergreen_34: I sent ya an email. (btw -- cute pic)” 7:51:22 AM 12/20/01 “evergreen_34: is that a jack terrier?” 7:52:02 AM 12/20/01 “Oh yeah, I might have a friend going. email sent TD.” 8:19:01 AM 12/20/01 “We are now considering a slight improvement to the original plan: Meeting at "Amycola" SP and getting one of our cars taken over to Woody Woodpecker Gap. Proposed: Using Friday to get to Springer, Sat to haul over to Hawk Mt, and hoofing out hard on Sunday to get out and shuttled back around.” 10:44:55 AM 12/20/01 “have you done that section, before?” 11:04:06 AM 12/20/01 “Not me.” 11:06:16 AM 12/20/01 “don't get too ambitious on your mileage, if you want to enjoy your hike.” 12:38:56 PM 12/20/01 “I have heard it's rough.” 12:46:23 PM 12/20/01 “what do you think rad?.. if we hit the approach trail sometime friday afternoon.. how far could we be by sometime sunday afternoon?” 12:54:33 PM 12/20/01 “friday afternoon? i doubt you would make it to springer, by dark. i've done it, but i won't do it, again. it's hard for me to say.... i was just dropping a helpful (hopefully) hint.” 12:56:46 PM 12/20/01 “Hey it's appreciated Rad. Thanks. Last time treebait got to Black gap in four hours. Any suggestions Rad?” 12:59:07 PM 12/20/01 “let me think back and look at my maps, tonight. i'll email, you some ideas. i'll call you, tonight, anyways. how late is too late?” 1:04:26 PM 12/20/01 “i am, turning, into a, comma, freak.” 1:06:44 PM 12/20/01 “Well I'm rested from my Lord of the Rings two night sleep depravation experience. So no later than 11. I do have maps of the AT up to the Smokies.” 1:07:45 PM 12/20/01 “We already figured we would have to do the approach trail in the dark. :)” 1:08:41 PM 12/20/01 “let's just say that the trailbuilders were not fond of switchbacks.” 1:10:15 PM 12/20/01 “ya.. I heard it was about a 60 degree elevation for nearly ALL of it..” 1:12:07 PM 12/20/01 “What about the forest service road to the top of springer? I've heard that it would be a very bad idea to drive it this time of year without a 4X4.” 1:15:42 PM 12/20/01
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