Typical Republican Hypocrisy

“It's both a political hit and looking for a windfall. Her lawyer is a Democrat activist and she's a 33 yo 'victim'.”

“You can read the lawsuit at http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris1.html

It is full of what appear to be quotations from O'Reilly so it looks like she must have tape-recorded him.

NoProb - Do you interpret sexual harassment laws to mean that a woman isn't really free to work where she chooses?

If these charges are true, it fits the pattern of great moralizers (when it involves other people's morals) having embarrassing personal lives.”

“People who live in glass houses.....”

“In what I heard on the am radio yesterday, was Bill himself saying that by coming out and and going after her on the extortion would be admitting to the phone sex "charge" and that he fully understands that this could end his career.

I don't think youcan get any clearer than that.”

“I think Rush Limbaugh has proven that a scandal in which you prove yourself to be the biggest of hypocrites won't end your career.”

“Dang Phaedrus, you are right.
Ol' Teddy K. drowned a girl in his car and he has more support now than ever.”

“V, no I made no such intrepretation at all. It was an observation, that I think it is contrary to human nature to go back to a job where you know the environment is unpleasant. That doesn't mean she doesn't have a right to do it, just that it seems strange to me.

The only generalization I can make is that Violin gets giddy when any person from the right does something that give him an opportunity to point out how all people from the right are hypocrits.

I know of lots of right-wingers that are not doing things like this. I can also give you a fairly good size list of left-wingers that are doing things like this. I don't consider them as evidence that left-wingers are hypocrits (no, I'm not interested in getting into a list war with you). I consider them criminals.”

“Violin- that transcript in the Smoking Gun is quite revealing! Sounds like he took "Little Bill" out for a "spin".”

“Ol' Teddy K. drowned a girl in his car and he has more support now than ever

No hero of mine.”

“If anyone needs a hike, it's Ted.

Maybe he should thru hike the AT?”

“Newt, Rush, Billyboy! Hey, so what if thier actions are proven fact and fly in the face of republican fascist idealism! Who cares, blame the messanger!

If republicans came out and said they don't give a crap about women, minorities or people who aren't rich white male church goes, I might have an inkling of respect for them. It;s funny that those who preach the latter the most, are those who are the most followed pied pipers to the lemmings that follow them.

Scoreboard:

Pied Pipers 3
Lemmings 0”

“It's really impressive how much hate you can carry around with you, BB.

As much as I dislike the Democratic party, I just can't manage that kind of venom. Where can I get lessons?”

“If you had any sense of justice or democracy, you wouldn't need lessons.”

“You are right, I'm a bad person, I should be taken out and shot. Thank you for your understanding.”

“I'm not saying you are either a bad person or that you should be taken out and shot. I'm simply stating that the party you support doesn't defend justice, and doesn't espouse democratic ideals. If you support that party, your very support hurts justice and democracy, and if you had any sense of justice or democracy or freedom, you would be just as enraged as I with this divisive administration.”

“As usual, I disagree. In fact I see it just the opposite. So I guess you must be wrong. :)”

“I just read through the whole lawsuit.

Vibrator Boy is in major trouble.

Maybe he can open a sex phone line after FOX fires his perverted ass.”

“Oh... it answers your "why would she go back to FOX" question, NoProb.
last edited: 10/15/04 11:40:38 AM”

“DON'T CALL ME VISORBOY!”

“Visorboy.”

“LMAO!”

“flmao!

1st Rush, now Bill.

Who the hell is gonna think for the Right now?”

“I'm pretty amazed at how quickly some people on this thread jumped to the conclusion that the woman was making allegations up in this case.”

“I guess that's what's called "fair and balanced" analysis.”

“That's just how it goes Phaed.

If you like the accused then the accusor is a gold digger

If you don't like the accused then the accusor is a victim of the privledged.

If you don't care about the accused either way you wonder why this is getting such much time on the news.”

“I don't really care much for the accused either way, but I don't like his employer much.

I think it takes big brass balls to make a countersuit in this situation.”

“I just did a quick review. I may have missed something but I didn't see where anybody said she was was making allegations up.

Given some of the circumstances surrounding it, I think the motivation (and pehaps the timing) is a little suspect. I don't know if it's true or not. Just a guess here, but I think there is much that WE on this forum don't know about it.”

“"She contended he made a similar call Sept. 21, ending that one by saying: "Next time you'll come up to my hotel room and we'll make this happen."

There goes your timing arguement. Next!”

“I really, really, really hope the O'Reilly masturbation tapes are never made public.”

“I just did a quick review. I may have missed something but I didn't see where anybody said she was was making allegations up.


“Looks like someone's tryin' to cash in...”
NigalKrueger
6:21:08 AM
10/15/04”

“I don't see where Nigel said anything about whether or not her allegations were true, only that she is trying to cash in. He may have doubted her word, I have no way of knowing what is in his mind. I'm just reading his word.

BB, Sept. was the date of one of the incidents, right. But I think it goes back quite some time doesn't it?
last edited: 10/15/04 12:38:53 PM”

“Yeah, okay, noprob.”

“Well, you don't like people reading things into what you say. I'm just going by what was actually in the posts.”

“I don't care if people read into what I say, especially when it's incredibly obvious what I mean. You and I apparently differ in that.”

“I guess it was obvious to you, I didn't read it that way.”

“Drugs (Rush), Gambling (Bill Bennet) and Sex (O'Reilly)--the new Conservative family values! Sounds like fun!


O'Reilly seems to like Trials by Media (e.g., Kobe, Michael Jackson and Scott Peterson). Can't wait for this one!”

“ww, Bill Bennett's gambling was completely legal. What do you find offensive about it?

I'm not a fan of gambling but if someone is gambling legally and is not causing a hardship on his family with it, I can't see where it's anything to get excited about.

Perhaps you can explain?”

“Gambling's a family value, NoProb? Maybe in your family..”

“(AP) Santa came early to GOP leader Tom DeLay on Wednesday.

House Republicans showed their appreciation of the majority leader by approving a rule change that could enable DeLay to retain his leadership post if he is indicted by a Texas grand jury on state political corruption charges.

By a voice vote, and with a handful of lawmakers voicing opposition, the House Republican Conference decided that a party committee of several dozen members would review any felony indictment of a party leader and recommend at that time whether the leader should step aside.

The current party rule in this area requires House Republican leaders and the heads of the various committees to relinquish their positions if indicted for a crime that could bring a prison term of at least two years.

It makes no distinction between a federal and state indictment. Three of DeLay's political associates already have been indicted by that Texas grand jury.

Rep. Henry Bonilla, R-Texas, said that under the change embraced Wednesday, the House Republican Steering Committee would have 30 legislative days to review a felony indictment and recommend to all House Republicans whether a lawmaker who is charged could remain as a committee chairman or leader.

There is no indication that DeLay will be indicted in connection with a Travis County, Texas, campaign finance investigation. But the majority leader has called the probe a partisan attack on him.

Bonilla said there was no vote count taken in the closed meeting but said the proposal passed overwhelmingly.

A grand jury in Travis County, Texas, is investigating alleged irregularities in 2002 state legislative races. Republican victories in those contests enabled DeLay ultimately to win support for a congressional redistricting plan that resulted in the GOP's gain of five House seats in Texas in this month's elections.

House Democrats have a step-aside provision that applies to federal and state proceedings similar to the current Republican rule, and their leader, Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California, was highly critical of the GOP proposal.

"If they make this rules change, Republicans will confirm yet again that they simply do not care if their leaders are ethical. If Republicans believe that an indicted member should be allowed to hold a top leadership position in the House of Representatives, their arrogance is astonishing," Pelosi said.

In September, the grand jury indicted three political operatives associated with DeLay and eight companies, alleging campaign finance violations related to corporate money spent in the 2002 legislative races. The corporate donations were made to Texans for a Republican Majority, a political action committee created with help from DeLay.

DeLay said he was not questioned or subpoenaed as part of the investigation, led by retiring prosecutor Ronnie Earle.

The majority leader said after the indictments, "This has been a dragged-out 500-day investigation, and you do the political math. This is no different than other kinds of partisan attacks that have been leveled against me that are dropped after elections."

In October, the House ethics committee rebuked DeLay for appearing to link political donations to a legislative favor and improperly persuading U.S. aviation authorities to intervene in the Texas redistricting dispute.”

“A day late and a dollar short.
Ewker beat you to it.”

“i think i speak for the left, the right, and the center when i say




















USA, SHUT UP!”

“I second that motion.”

“hey, stop agreeing with me! youre making me look bad”

“This doesn't belong here. How can you say the repubs are hypocrites when they never espoused ethics to begin with?”

“snip

"The Republican-led Senate approved the debt limit bill by 52-44, with only two Democrats and one Republican switching sides."

snip”

“snip

"Not a single Republican spoke during debate on the debt limit bill, reflecting how politically uncomfortable the measure is for them. That discomfort was highlighted when they refused to bring the bill to a vote before the elections."

snip”

“snip

"Democrats noted that the $5.6 trillion in surpluses that were projected for the next 10 years when Bush took office in 2001 have been transformed into $2.3 trillion in deficits now estimated for the coming decade. This is the third time since he entered the White House that Bush has gotten Congress to boost the borrowing limit."

snip”

“"We believe that government spending is out of control and needs to be reduced. We support fundamental, immediate tax reform that is simple, fair, and fully disclosed. We commend President George W. Bush’s principled stand to reduce taxes and stimulate the economy. "

Texas republican party platform”