Typical Republican Hypocrisy

“No he can’t and this is also why in the interview he cleverly edited McClellon says about 50 time, “If anyone has information on this matter they should go to the Department of Justice.””

“The Vile Man earned that nickname. LOL

Of course he has no shame.
With him, it's 'win' at any cost.
The ends justify the means.
Lie lie lie.
A true Democrat.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL”

“If Rove outed the spy he needs to go.

What did he do?”

“Did somebody say....... 'frogmarch'?”

“I don't know what a frogmarch is, but this thing seems to be under reported and over reported at the same time.

I found a reference to an email of what Karl Rove said, but not much else. Is there evidence that he outed the girl?”

“As far as I know he never even mentioned her by name. And as I said way up the thread even the author of the law they say he's breaking says he didn't do anything wrong. It's worth repeating...desperate people calling for desperate measures.”

“I was able to take the time to investigate (google real hard, read all the newspaper articles} on the Downy Street incident, but I have not spent as much time researching this issue.

If this is another red herring the leftist loonies will have done their job.

If he did it he needs to go.”

“bacpac researches fabric softener.

What's next, Charmin?”

“I don't know what TomT has against personal hygene products, but as a bachelor I can recommend Downy Wrinkle Releaser.

Spray it on and ironing is almost done.

Oh Yeah, I iron my own clothes.”

“I've been pretty busy lately so maybe I missed it, but the last I heard Karl Rove hadn't been found guilty & convicted of anything?

So what's this all about Violin? Are you the self-proclaimed judge & jury? Have you not heard of that old "innocent until proven guilty" adage?


- wanderer


Innocent until proven guilty? When did that stop George W from incarcerating and torturing people at Gitmo and the other secret detention centers without trials? What about the thousands of innocent Iraqis killed by George W who found them "guilty" of possessing WMD which don't exist?”

“Basically it’s a bunch of over reacting. No one has the full info dump. Imagine, this guy gets his wife to get her boss to send him to Africa, he comes back and writes a scathing and inaccurate article in the largest paper in the country and he’s surprised when people find out his wife works for the CIA? Besides, they were very much in the beltway society circles and it was common knowledge that she was cia to many in Washington. What a dumb shlt. Rove basically said the guy’s wife got him the job (he didn’t even KNOW her name much less tell anyone her actual name) and the next thing ya know ya got John “I served in Vietnam” Kerry calling for Rove’s scalp like he outted some agent who was deep, deep undercover in danger‘s way. If she’s so deep and secretive why the phuck was she posing for Vanity Fair?

I want this brought into the full light of day. I want an independent council to do full cavity searches. I want this gone over with a fine toothed comb. I want the desperation of the far left to be plain for all to see when nothing is made of this whole thing.”

““Hell, I’m not even denying Rove was the leak. He broke no laws. The agent wasn’t undercover, wasn’t on assignment and it was not done to put the agent at danger (if I‘m not mistaken she was driving a frickin‘ desk).
- Nigal
2:07:18 PM
7/12/05


ahem...

The CIA declined to discuss Plame's intelligence work, but an agency official disputed suggestions that she was a mere analyst whose public exposure would have little consequence.

"If she was not undercover, we would have no reason to file a criminal referral," the CIA official said, insisting on anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation.

http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?ts=1&display=rednews/2003/10/01/build/nation/25-leak.inc”

“Nigal - She was in Vanity Fair after she was outed - in a scarf and sunglasses - didn't Hannity mention that?

How the hell would you know anything about 'beltway society'? You can't claim to know what was common knowledge.
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“It's a separate reality for the members of the Dubya Cult, Violin.

They change the truth to whatever they say it is.”

“Little changes in timeline after the fact will usually make your point more believeable. Unless the person you are dealing with has a memory of his own, that is.”

“Beltway Society??

I gotta laugh my ass of there!!

There are about 1,000,000 citizens living inside the D.C. Beltway and 99% have nothing to do with making policy or implementing it.

That's kinda like saying "everyone in Mississippi is stupid".”

““Nigal - She was in Vanity Fair after she was outed - in a scarf and sunglasses - didn't Hannity mention that?"

Three seconds on Google and I have her full picture. Who said I heard Hannity even say anything about it? Nice detective work Dipshlt...




"How the hell would you know anything about 'beltway society'? You can't claim to know what was common knowledge."

The same way you give advice on backpacking even though your wife won't even let you hike. BTW- be sure to check out the source page for the picture. It was taken at a high puiblicity Washington lunchon. :)”

“.....after she was outed
by Rove”

“Nigal - it's another example of Rove's ruthlessness in relation to potential campaign enemies. Look at what he did to McCain.

Looks like he overstepped the mark on this one.

Hopefully there will be some accountability.”

“If he is found guilty I will be the first one grabbing some rope to string him up. :)”

““If he is found guilty I will be the first one grabbing some rope to string him up. :)”

Good golly, are all neo-cons this violent??”

“I knew about that photo Nigal. Do you happen to know when it was taken? Can you see the relevance?

Whether Fitzgerald has enough of a case to convict Rove or not, even his own lawyer admits he identified her to a journalist. That’s enough reason to remove him from any sensitive position.”

“Nigal - what happens in the Beltway tends to be that people work for the "Government" but you tend to get little information beyond that. Sure you have an idea about certain people, but that's very different from her being outed in the press.”

“If Rove goes then who will pull the strings??”

““If Rove goes then who will pull the strings??”

Hey man, be very careful what you progressives wish for. Rove is The Architect. If you go and screw up his world to a certain point the will just destroy this world and create another one. Now you don’t want that do you. Just don’t take the blue pill man!


”

“Nigal, thanks for the enormous picture.”

“Nigal, you been talkin' to The Mother Ship again?”

““Nigal, thanks for the enormous picture.”

V's a bit dense Phaed. He needs large pictures and graphs yet he still doesn't get it.”

“Why is it that when Clinton lies under oath in a court of law he's a minor deity but Rove slips about a cia agent and he's puting the free world at risk?”

“TITLE 50 > CHAPTER 15 > SUBCHAPTER IV > § 421
(b) Disclosure of information by persons who learn identity of covert agents as result of having access to classified information Whoever, as a result of having authorized access to classified information, learns the identify of a covert agent and intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent’s intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sec_50_00000421----000-.html”

“Rule of law and all that...”

“As far as I know he never even mentioned her by name. - Nigal


Rove's lawyer, Robert Luskin, said Rove did not disclose Valerie Plame's name, a point that Sen. Joe Biden, D-Delaware, called a distinction without a difference.

"The fact that he didn't give her name, but identified the ambassador's wife ... doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who that is."”

“I am no rocket scientist... Last I heard was that Rove didn't call any CIA agent by name. However, he did name an ambassador and said that his wife was an agent. I don't think the Ambassador wears special underwear. He has only one wife. Her name is Valerie.”

“Why do those on the Right constantly bring up Clinton to rationalize the actions of this administration. If it was wrong for Clinton (and it was) it sure the #&%!$ is wrong for Shrub and his gang.

This kind of logic is really troubling, I see gang bangers do it all the time.."well he did it"

Grow up guys. If it's wrong for the Liberal folks it's wrong for the Conservatives as well.”

““Why do those on the Right constantly bring up Clinton to rationalize the actions of this administration."

You answer your own question in the next sentance...

"If it was wrong for Clinton (and it was) it sure the #&%!$ is wrong for Shrub and his gang."

It’s all about consistency. It’s complete hypocrisy for Violink and his cronies to give Clinton a free pass and all their love and adoration yet seek to pluck the speck from Bush’s eye. I just love pushing these Dumas’s buttons because NO ONE knows enough details to make a call yet they are calling for Rove’s lynching before ANY fault is determined.

And for the record I agree completely about it being wrong for both. While I’ve had some fun baiting the loony left the passed couple of days it really comes down to truth for me. I don’t want politics I want the truth.”

“You're a bullschitter......and not even an artist.”

“We all remember what a free ride Clinton got. No one questioned his practices or administration until all the facts were clear.”

“Free ride??

Yeah, impeachment is a free ride.”

“I'm sorry, my "dripping sarcasm" font didn't work.
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“Huh, the guy testified that he had no inappropriate contact (yes, sticking your dick in her mouth is inappropriate) and then he said he did. He lied under oath and should have been impeached. It ain’t about Slick Willy’s Willy. It’s about his lies and how he broke the law. (this in no way is to suggest I think Bush hasn't told his fair share of fibs, he just diodn't break the law in doing it)”

“Your still doing it aren't you? HEY CLINTON DID IT FIRST, SO MY GUY GETS A FREE RIDE!


OK, I'll bite (pun intended)

We have Rove claiming he didn't reveal her name, he just said it was Wilson's wife. I guess it just depends on what your definition of revealing her name is.
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““Your still doing it aren't you? HEY CLINTON DID IT FIRST, SO MY GUY GETS A FREE RIDE!"

No Steve, I'm not. I'm only pointing out the hypocrisy of those who don't demand the same of their own party as they do of the other party. After stating this some four times now I can only assume you have some kind of comprehension deficiency.”

“Yep, that must be it.”

“Admission is the first step to recovery Steve. Congratulations.
:)”

“At least I'm recovering ;-)”

“YOu are idiots. Espeically you Nigal (from whom I exepct better)


Hmmm. What matters more in the world??

a) Lying about receiving a BJ from a fat pig


Or

B) Dragging the US into a war, and killing thousand of our soliders by LYING about WMD?


or

C) LYING about, and indeed, REVEALING, the name of a CIA agent in a time when the US needs all of its resources on the ground in the war against terrorism.



NOT COINCIDENTLY, ROVE EXPOSED PLAME SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE HER HUSBAND WAS CHALLENGING THE WMD LIE!!!!



If you A$$wipes can't pull your heads out of your butts long enough to make this distinction you are as retarded as I had always suspected.
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“LOL! Lee, you totally blw an O-ring and flew waaaaay out there in left field and ended up all over the map. However this is exactly what I expect from you. What was it that got ya all hot and bothered? The image of a fat pig BJ? Nyuck nyuck!”