Typical Republican Hypocrisy

“Violin, are you actually going to claim there's no inverse correlation between SES and crime rates?
last edited: 9/30/05 10:18:17 AM”

“Well are ya, punk???”

“Wanna drop the crime rate? Seal the Mexican border.”

“Jeez, I guess all those white folks in prison must be victims of racial profiling.”

“... or victims of over-zealous Democratic prosecutors.”

“I just can’t understand why people say there is an undercurrent of racism in the Republican Party.”

“Those would be the same people who think one dumbass represents the whole party V. then again, Robert KKK Byrde is one of yours, not ours. LOL!”

“isn't David Grand Wizard KKK Duke a republican?”

“Racism is making an entire generation of blacks dependent on affirmative action and government handouts. Now what party championed that?”

“BTW, violin, you disengenuously ignored my point, but to everyone else it's obvious - the face validity of the abortion/crime argument is logically consistent:

Fact - More crime is committed by lower SES folks

Fact - Lower SES have many abortions

Fact - Crime rates have been falling

Conclusion - abortion reduced crime.

I'm not saying I believe that, necessarily, but your ridiculous attempt to link the unrelated was at best intellectually dishonest.”

“hehehe”

“What race makes up the vast majority of welfare and food stamp recipients?

Huh, cracker?”

“What office does he hold Ewker?”

“I am just asking if he is a republican? I don't care if he is in office or not.
If you are trying to say that one party is racist and the other isn't you are sadly mistaken”

“Cracker?!?!? Well look who's racist!

Okay, now that this lame quid-pro-quo is over, are you claiming that the facts are racist in and of themselves?”

“duke enters whatever party he can try for but he got his start with [drum roll] the democrats...He ended up in the republican party even though no one would endorse him.

"In 1976, Duke sought a seat in the Louisiana State Senate as a Democrat. In 1978 he left the Klan, and two years later formed the National Association for the Advancement of White People. In 1987, he conducted a direct-mail appeal using the identity and mailing-list of the Forsyth County Defense League, in Georgia, without permission, which League officials described as a fund-raising "scam" (detailed in The Rise of David Duke by Tyler Bridges). In 1988 he ran in the Democratic Party primary for candidate of the President of the United States. After a dismal showing in the Democratic primaries, he appeared on many state ballots as the nominee of the Populist Party, this time receiving approximately 25,000 votes in the 1988 general election."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke”

““I am just asking if he is a republican? I don't care if he is in office or not.
If you are trying to say that one party is racist and the other isn't you are sadly mistaken”

Isn't Sharpton a democrat? He's a bigger racist than any of them. I never said one was racist and the other wasn't. V was one making that assumption.”

“unfortunatley he is along with Jackson.”

“Who gets more welfare?

http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj15n2-3-5.html”

“Since you liberals have chosen to take one sentence out of an entire conversation and twist it to serve your racist view, I choose not to get into this discussion.”

“When you've got nothing to say, say it loud, huh?”

“Actually, statements like that are self defeating when the Republicans are courting African American voters.”

“What an idiotic thing for Bennett to say. Why would he even say "black"? Maybe I'm wrong, but whites also commit a lot of crime. Should white babies be aborted too?

Hell, for a foolproof way to reduce crime, all babies should be aborted.

If Bennett claims it was purely a hypothetical, it was tasteless and inherently flawed.”

“I think that this is very interesting.

My understanding is that crime rates are decreasing at a pretty good clip across the country.

Can we take this quote to mean that Bennett believes the drop in crime is not the result of Republican tough-on-crime policies or the war on drugs, but instead the large number of abortions we have had since the 1970s?

That would be an interesting abandonment of a core piece of the Republican gospel.

And, since Bennett supports abortion legal restrictions AND the connection between abortion and crime is so unstoppably direct, can we say that Bennett is Pro-Crime?

Anyway, this is a losing issue. Bennett and the Republicans gain more support from softly biased white people by taking stands like this than the Democrats gain from disaffected black people.”

“Well it sure seems the racial turds are bobbing up in the Katrina floodwaters. Take this editorial the Wall Street Journal saw fit to publish yesterday for example: http://www.aei.org/publications/pubID.23273,filter.all/pub_detail.asp”

“Ain't that just shltty? Makes ya wanna split up everyone's money and give it away to the poor, don't it?”

“I think the poor discovered the underclass before the Dummycrats or Repugnicans.”

“But Bar sez they're better off now.”

“LOL! Yeah, it's like the poor were invisible until ya find them walking around waist deep in shltty water.”

“Acushnet Company (Titleist, FootJoy, Cobra, Pinnacle) Chairman Wally
Uihlein: "The short-term impact on shipping orders to Acushnet
customers, according to Uihlein, will be minimal because the company
traditionally maintains a warehouse inventory at about two months of
sales."

http://www.pga.com/news/industry/surlyn092905.cfm

Surlyn the cover for most golf balls is in short supply due to Hurricane damage.

A couple of questions... Where else does surlyn get produced? And,
can Pres. Bush cut loose with some of the Strategic Surlyn Reserve to control the price of golf balls?

The President responded, by recommending golfers conserve their golf balls by not shanking them off the fairway or into water hazards.”

“Hell, even Bubya is firing away:

WASHINGTON - The White House on Friday criticized former Education Secretary William Bennett for remarks linking the crime rate and the abortion of black babies.

“The president believes the comments were not appropriate,” White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.”

“I think the golf ball crisis caused by the hurricane was racially motivated.”

“Have another drink bacpac. It's gonna be a long night!”

“You are the only one of the two of us who drinks.”

“Maybe you should.”

“You know the argument-since the advent of liberalism our Americans has become more fat, more entitled, lazier, angry,less congenial, more wasteful.

Hence liberalism causes the above”

“We my have an energy, golf ball and coffee shotage, but never a BS shortage here.”

““What race makes up the vast majority of welfare and food stamp recipients?"

I would like to know the answer. But I would ALSO like to know the % (as a proportion of total poulation) of whites,blacks, hispanics on welfare and food stamps.

“Well it sure seems the racial turds are bobbing up in the Katrina floodwaters. Take this editorial the Wall Street Journal saw fit to publish yesterday for example:

Is the article above about race (no) or socioeconomics(yes). How does the government save the underclass? (It can't because there will always be an underclass. Remember the bell curve?)

When Bill Cosby spoke at an NAACP meeting and spoke of the problems facing black america, he was shot down. The espousers of the race card need to open their eyes and realize the race card is running out of steam.

As Jesse Jackson once said, "Keep hope alive and the welfare checks coming."”

“Dear Fellow Cons:

Many people have come to me a bit bewildered by the tone and emphasis of Republican politics this year. Perhaps, they are a bit thrown by someone who used to preen in skimpy swimwear, made himself available as a frolicsome plaything to lecherous old men and is a supporter of a president who spent high school and college as a giddy cheerleader, calling other males "girly men." Others, carelessly veering from their talking points to lazily succumb to reality, were perplexed when the No. 2 (at least officially) man from an administration that purports to provide civil counterpoint to "angry liberals," would take to the Senate floor and offer the brusque motto of extreme self-reliance: "Go [unchristian word starting with an F] yourself!"

Friends, if you are surprised by any of this, you simply aren't paying attention. Good. We need more of you in the GOP! But why would it come as a shock that Mr. Cheney would say to a senator what Mr. Bush has been saying to America and our allies for the past three years? Indeed, if politics allowed for candor (which, thank the Lord, it doesn't because who really would have rallied around a Bill "Leave No Woman's Behind" Clinton?) the GOP's slogan this year would be "Bush/Cheney: America Go [unchristian word starting with an F] Yourself!"

Alas, such frankness alienates prickly focus groups, to say nothing of congenitally indecisive swing voters. Therefore, we are left with the tricky conundrum of having to give voice to immutable principles of unbending resolve. And than doing precisely the opposite. This moral circumlocution has to be done deftly. Or at least quickly. To help you understand how it works, I am providing some pointers on Republican paradoxes:


The United States should get out of the United Nations because it is a useless institution that furthers anti-American policies. In the meantime, however, our national raison d'etre is spending thousands of lives and billions of dollars to enforce U.N. resolutions against Iraq.

Support for our troops is best shown by bumper stickers, festooning trees with yellow, ridiculing people who are sticklers for a justification for getting Marines killed, and using aircraft carriers and the enlisted as photogenic backdrops for partisan political opportunities. Cold, unsentimental cash, such as for veterans' benefits and combat pay, cheapens our affection for our brave boys and gals in uniform.

If we don't allow teachers to talk about it in schools, adolescents won't even know that sex exists until after they are safely married (in which case, they will surely come to question its existence yet again).

If Teresa Heinz Kerry tells an irritating reporter to "shove it," she is rude, tactless and probably deranged. On the other hand, if Dick Cheney stands on the Senate floor and snarls at a United States Senator "go f__k yourself," he is a candid statesman who simply voiced what needed to be said.

It is the coming together (marriage), not the rending apart (divorce) that is most likely to undermine a marriage. After all, the biggest threat to marriage is allowing people to do it.

If you are an entertainer who remakes your entire career to ride the coattails of conservative jingoism all the way to the nearest bank, you are hailed as a man of principle (Tobey Keith). If, however, you mouth passing praise for someone liberal in between songs (Linda Ronstadt), you will be escorted from the stage by armed men in natty brown shirts.

Being a drug addict, in addition to being rather expensive, comes as a result of an inability to muster a simple "no" and is irrefutable proof of moral turpitude necessitating mandatory jail time. If, however, the junkie is either a bombastic (yet conservative) radio host or a bomb-happy President, anything more than simple prayers for recovery would be shockingly punitive.

Christ told us that if an enemy strikes us, we are required to forgive them and turn the other cheek. This is why savvy Christian nations work around Jesus' girly-man approach by preemptively attacking first.

Long-time Allies respond best to a coquettish "hard-to-get" approach from America, the ultimate alpha male in the diplomatic dating pool. After several years of harsh insults and pointed indifference, they will all swoon when we show we care by asking for troops and money.

Saddam Hussein (who when haplessly groomed begins to look alarmingly like Dennis Miller, only with an audience), was a good guy when Mr. Reagan armed him and Mr. Rumsfeld shook his hand, an evil guy when W's daddy verbally attacked him (but left him otherwise unscathed), a good guy (again) when Mr. Cheney's wildly resourceful company did business with him, and an evil guy (yet again) when the Prodigal Bush needed an enemy with an address.

If you want to provide the people of Iraq with health care, police, roads, sewers, a new power grid and education, irrespective of cost, you are a fiscally sound conservative. If, on the other hand, you want these same things for Americans, you are a tax-and-spend liberal.

So close to Jesus, I know which press coups for Kerry trigger terror alerts,

Mrs. Betty Bowers

America's Best Christian”

“You filthy liberal liar!”

“:)”

“This has to be the most boring troll ever.”

“Would Plame Leak Case Indictments Be "Perjury Technicalities?" by Joe Gandelman
This will be a BIG WEEK in the Plamegate scandal: by the end of the week we'll know whether there will be indictments — and in a development that should outrage ALL Americans, some GOPers are already putting out the new line that if it's a "perjury technicality" it somehow doesn't matter.

Didn't it seem to matter a LOT — to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Republicans in the Senate and Congress and to many Democrats — when it turned out that President Bill Clinton lied under oath?

We seem to remember something about an impeachment, with lots of sordid testimony on TV - but perhaps it was all a dream.

So, if an indictment comes out that accuses a Republican of perjury, then it's a technicality?


Read THIS and ask yourself whether principles in American politics have absolutely disappeared in the interest of circle-the-wagons-and-protect-our-guys expediency... and where "law" is now viewed as relative, depending on whether or not someone is on your "team":

WASHINGTON, Oct. 23 - After a 22-month inquiry, the special counsel in the C.I.A. leak case, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, is expected to announce this week whether he will seek indictments against White House officials, a decision that is likely to be a defining moment of President Bush's second term.

Karl Rove, the senior White House adviser, and I. Lewis Libby Jr., who is Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, have been advised that they are in serious legal jeopardy in a case that began as a minor irritant for the president's aides but has grown into a raging conflagration for the White House.

It is not publicly known when Mr. Fitzgerald will take action, if any, but whatever he decides, the prosecutor is expected to make an announcement before Friday, the final day of the term of his grand jury. In the past, the grand jury has met on Wednesdays and Fridays.

As the White House braced for a decision by Mr. Fitzgerald, Republicans began suggesting that they would pursue a strategy of minimizing any charges as technicalities or the product of an overzealous prosecution.

Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, Republican of Texas, speaking on NBC's "Meet the Press," compared the leak investigation to the case of Martha Stewart, "where they couldn't find a crime and they indict on something that she said about something that wasn't a crime."

Senator Hutchison said she hoped "that if there is going to be an indictment that says something happened, that it is an indictment on a crime and not some perjury technicality where they couldn't indict on the crime and so they go to something just to show that their two years of investigation was not a waste of time and taxpayer dollars."
So, let's get this straight:

If it turns out that a close aide to President George Bush and/or Vice President Dick Cheney lied under oath, it's just a "perjury techicality."

How would that differ from going after Clinton due to a "technicality" that surfaced under oath in the course of another investigation? One, by the way, that was played on videotape and broadcast for the whole nation to see, then replayed over and over on conservative talk radio shows.”

“Isn't grand jury stuff suppose to be secret? If so one of two things must be happening. Either all the facts that everyone is quoting are just made up because they want them to be true (probably not), or, someone is leaking grand jury information that is suppose to be secret (probably). So, do we need an investigation to determine the source of this leakage?

While I'm here I have another question for you people of great wisdom. According the the person who actually wrote the law concerning outing CIA agents, no law was broken. So what was this investigation about in the first place? I mean besides embarrasing and crippling the Bush administration.”

“So the CIA performed an initial investigation and referred the case to the DOJ who eventually appointed a special prosecutor who subpoenaed half of Washington and put a reporter in jail for 85 days all because no law was broken?

Brilliant!”

“V, I didn't say no law was broken (well yeah, I did). The person who wrote the law said so. And of all the people in this world I'd think she would know what the intent of the law was.

I realize you think I'm an idiot. You always make that real clear. Actually you make it clear that ANYONE who would dare disagree with you is an idiot. But I'm pretty sure that the person who authored the law probably has a better grasp on this issue than you do.”

“Not me - the CIA, the Justice Dept., Patrick Fitzgerald and at least two judges that have seen some of the evidence appear to believe that at least one law may have been broken.

I'm sure you know better though.”

“WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The CIA has sent a report to the U.S. Justice Department indicating classified information may have been leaked to The Washington Post for its recent story about secret prisons run by the spy agency, according to U.S. officials.

The newspaper reported last week that the CIA was holding top suspected al Qaeda terrorists at undisclosed prisons in eastern Europe and other locations.

The Justice Department refused to confirm or deny a referral was made.

The action by the CIA general counsel was taken immediately after the Washington Post article was published, an official said.

It is similar to one taken when covert officer Valerie Plame's name was made public in an article written by a syndicated columnist.

By law, when there is the possibility that classified information has been leaked, the CIA is required to inform the Justice Department, which generally launches an investigation into the matter.

Earlier Tuesday, Republican congressional leaders asked for an investigation into the matter, and Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi suggested his own GOP colleagues could be to blame for the possible leak.

Sen. Bill Frist of Tennessee, the Senate majority leader, and Rep. Dennis Hastert of Illinois, the House speaker, asked the chairmen of the House and Senate intelligence committees to look into the report, saying the disclosure could damage national security.

"If accurate, such an egregious disclosure could have long-term and far-reaching damaging and dangerous consequences, and will imperil our efforts to protect the American people and our homeland from terrorist attacks," they wrote in a letter requesting the investigation.

Lott told reporters the information in the Post story was the same as that given to Republican senators in a closed-door briefing by Vice President Dick Cheney last week.

"Every word that was said in there went right to the newspaper," he said. "We can't keep our mouths shut."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/08/prison.probe/index.html”

“From cnn.com:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist says he is more concerned about the leak of information regarding secret CIA detention centers than activity in the prisons themselves.

Frist told reporters Thursday that while he believed illegal activity should not take place at detention centers, he believes the leak itself poses a greater threat to national security and is "not concerned about what goes on" behind the prison walls.

"My concern is with leaks of information that jeopardize your safety and security -- period," Frist said. "That is a legitimate concern."”

“http://www.shadowtv.com/redirect/notification.jsp?vid=59f35cbde254562fe18466b0d5931c8b

Sen. Trent Lott “stunned reporters” by saying that the issue of secret CIA prisons was discussed at a Republican-only lunch, attended by Vice President Dick Cheney, last Tuesday, the day before the Washington Post reported the story. Lott said of the Washington Post story, “a lot of it came out of that room on Tuesday” and he said of his Senate Republican colleagues, “we can’t keep our mouths shut.” http://edition.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/08/prison.probe/”