Typical Republican Hypocrisy

“You guys were all push out of shape about the leak exposing what's her name even though she wasn't a covert agent and it wasn't a violation of the law, but this you give a pass. Not hard to figure out your motivation. Bring down the U.S. government at all cost. ”

“"push out of shape"

Am I getting old and that is some new twist on "bent out of shape"?

I still think shipping Rove and Cheney to some secret torture chamber in Turkey would be some good medicine.”

“NoProb, do you think this is OK?”

“The United States does not have any secret prisons.

Not anymore.”

“NoProb, do you think this is OK?”
the-naviguesser
10:50:51 PM
11/10/05


If you are asking about the prisons, I'm not sure how I feel about the formerly secret prisons.

I think the leaking is extremely serious. I hope someone does some serious prison time.”

“Trent Lott said a Republican had to be the leaker. You really want John McCain to go to jail?”

“If he leaked it yes. Unlike you libbies, I think if it is wrong, it's wrong for both sides.”

“Even you have to comprehend the difference between leaking the name of a covert agent as part of a political smear campaign, national security be damned and leaking information about illegal activity done on the taxpayers dime and in our name?”

“But I support your intention to lock up every single Republican for a long, long time.”

“Yes, I see the difference. She wasn't covert and the feeling is that her husband caused her name to be leaked. Course you'd give him a pass cause it wouldn't further your cause of destroying the Bush administration. So I suppose there will never be any charges there.

But why am I arguing with you? You wouldn't know a fact if it hit you in the head. Your view must be simple. If it's bad for the Republicans or Conservatives it's is true. If not it's false.”

“Don’t fret little one. The Bush administration is doing a fine job of destroying itself. It really doesn’t need our help. There is no risk to national security by leaking the fact that there are secret torture prisons. Their locations weren’t disclosed. The president does not have dictorial powers and the American people should know the atrocities that our government commits. Otherwise we would be more clueless than we are now as to why so much of the world hates us.

If the media were truly liberal we would all know the full story. Actually, if the media were truly liberal the Republicans would not have leaked this to them.”

“Further the cause of destroying the Bush Administration? That is a freakin hoot and a half. Bumbleya is doing a better job of that than FiddleBoy is capable of doing - a far, far better job. Bumbleya has the Midas touch ... in reverse ... everything he touches turns to crap! Violin won't catch up if he keeps working on it for two decades after Bumbleya leaves office.”

“Wow, looks like I hit a nerve. My work here is done.
last edited: 11/11/05 11:08:35 AM”

“Nope, your ignorance is just so hard to leave alone. What a fun time to be alive. I voted for bush the first time. What amazes me is that some many rats go down with the ship. Swim, save your self. The republicans only care about helping those who need no help.
last edited: 11/11/05 11:10:18 AM”

“John 3:19-20

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.”

“Hit a nerve? You have delusions. You hit the funny bone, not a nerve. There's a difference.”

“Hah!

CNN used my favoite Frist file photo in their story: http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/10/frist.secretprisons.ap/index.html


I talk to my hand and it talks to me.
(Little Ricky looks on with concern.)
last edited: 11/11/05 2:51:45 PM”

“"How are you today?
"Sa-dite."
"Would you like a little keess?"
"Cee, s-dite."
[smoochsmochsmooch]”

“Little Ricky's days in the Senate are numbered.”

“Scooter Meet José Padilla
Suddenly, Bush Embraces Right of Fair Trials
By DAVE LINDORFF


"When President Bush was confronted by reporters as he left the White House for Camp David following the announcement of the five indictments of, and the resignation of Vice President Dick Cheney chief of state I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, he offered up a lame comment, which at the same time exposed him as a grotesque hypocrite.

"In our system," he said, "each individual is presumed innocent and entitled to a fair trial."

Sure. That's what will happen with Scooter, and with Karl Rove if he gets indicted when the other shoe drops.

But what about Jose Padilla? This U.S. citizen, picked up at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport back in 2001, has been held in a military brig without charge, without access to an attorney, and in solitary confinement without any contact with family members for four years because President Bush has claimed the right, on his sole authority, to declare any American citizen to be an "enemy combatant" and to revoke their Constitutional rights and rights of citizenship.

No formal charges have been filed against Padilla. Instead, the Justice Department has just made unsupported statements claiming first that he was planning to build and detonate a dirty-nuke bomb, then dropping that and claiming that he planned to blow up gas lines in apartment buildings. Since Padilla is unable to contest these charges-or really even to know what the charges are or who has been testifying against him-no one can know their veracity."

By MARK SHERMAN
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Jose Padilla, a U.S. citizen held for three years as an enemy combatant suspected of plotting a "dirty bomb" attack in this country, has been indicted on charges that he conspired to "murder, kidnap and maim" people overseas.

A federal grand jury in Miami returned the indictment against Padilla and four others. While the charges allege Padilla was part of a U.S.-based terrorism conspiracy, they do not include the government's earlier allegations that he planned to carry out attacks in America.

"The indictment alleges that Padilla traveled overseas to train as a terrorist with the intention of fighting a violent jihad," Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said at a news conference in Washington. Gonzales declined to comment on why none of the allegations involving attacks in America were included in the indictment.

Padilla, a Brooklyn-born Muslim convert, has been held as an "enemy combatant" in Defense Department custody for more than three years. The Bush administration had resisted calls to charge and try him in civilian courts.

With the indictment, Padilla will be transferred from military custody to the Justice Department. Gonzales said the case would go to trial in September of 2006. Padilla faces life in prison if convicted on the charges.

The indictment avoids a Supreme Court showdown over how long the government could hold a U.S. citizen without charges. The high court had been asked to decide when and for how long the government can jail Americans in military prisons.

"They're avoiding what the Supreme Court would say about American citizens. That's an issue the administration did not want to face," said Scott Silliman, a Duke University law professor who specializes in national security. "There's no way that the Supreme Court would have ducked this issue."

Padilla's lawyers had asked justices to review his case last month, and the Bush administration was facing a deadline next Monday for filing its legal arguments.

"The 'evidence' the government has offered against Padilla over the past three years consists of double and triple hearsay from secret witnesses, along with information allegedly obtained from Padilla himself during his two years of incommunicado interrogation," his lawyers said in their earlier appeal.
last edited: 11/25/05 11:40:11 PM”

“The Bush library should be built in Tijuana.”

““The Bush library should be built in Tijuana.”
salebored
5:47:39 PM
11/26/05

My Pet Goat doesn't need a whole library! It's more like the bush section of the shelf of a library should be in Tijuana. lol!”

“Republican or not, just plain hypocrisy.

Planting news stories in Iraq.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051130/pl_afp/usiraqmilitarymedia”

“What is wrong with what they are doing?

They're just like freelance writers.

The article didn't say they were being deceptive.”

“"The operation is designed to mask any connection with the US military," it said.”

“Contractor spends big on key lawmakers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20051130/ts_usatoday/contractorspendsbigonkeylawmakers”

“"Propaganda is to a democracy what the bludgeon is to a totalitarian state."
-- Avram Noam Chomsky

"It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion."
-- Joseph Paul Goebbels

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."—"
-- George W. Bush

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
-- Joseph Goebbels”

“How much of a moron are you sarge? A mean, is there a bottom to your unending stupidity?

"The Lincoln Group helps translate and place the stories. The contractor's Iraqi staff, or its subcontractors, sometimes pose as freelance journalists or advertising executives to hand the stories to Iraqi papers."”

“Surely, sarge, you don't purport the use of propaganda in a democracy, do you? If you think this is OK, you might want to rename your party to the fascist party.”

“Above all else I want the truth no matter how bad it may seem. Propaganda has no place in a democracy.”

“BB - I don't purport the use of government propoganda in a democracy. I do purport the use of government propoganda in a war though, especially on the warfront.

That being said, I very quickly browsed the above article and did miss several key points, so I don't agree with what is happening in this situation (assuming it's factual and complete). So BB, we agree on something.”

“Good point Violin.”

“mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, pork”

“Is that the Abramoff stairway to hog heaven?”

“BLACKBURN, England (CNN) -- One day after Condoleezza Rice said the United States made possibly "thousands" of tactical mistakes in the war against Iraq, the secretary of state says she was speaking "figuratively, not literally."

In a speech Friday at an event organized by the Chatham House think tank, Rice said, "I am quite certain there are going to be dissertations written about the mistakes of the Bush administration."

"I know we've made tactical errors, thousands of them, I'm sure," she said. "But when you look back in history what will be judged on is" whether the "right strategic decision" was made.

On Saturday, a reporter asked Rice to give examples of the mistakes.

"First of all, I meant it figuratively, not literally. Let me be very clear about that. I wasn't sitting around counting," she replied. "The point I was making to the questioner ... is that, of course, if you've ever made decisions, you've undoubtedly made mistakes.”

“All the things the Bushies wanted to do to Iraq could have been done to Mexico and could have had an affect on the illegals situation that could start a civil war in this country. Oh sorry , I forget many of you need the slaves from the south.”

“One day after Condoleezza Rice said the United States made possibly "thousands" of tactical mistakes in the war against Iraq, the secretary of state says it was "an April Fool's joke."

"First of all, I meant it as an April Fool's joke. Let me be very clear about that. I wasn't sitting around counting," she replied. "The point I was making to the questioner ... is that, of course, if you've ever been a Republican, you've undoubtedly made thousands of mistakes.”

"And the immigration bill is an April Fools joke, too," Rice said. Adding, "the Bush administration would never try to pull something like that during an election year."

"And we caught Osama bin Laden" laughed Rice. "April Fools."
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“So, republicans tell the truth one day a year.”

“The Democratic hypocricy thread was made before fuego, so I thought I'd pull a USA/Violin and pull a twister-post.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.htm

The CEI video, which may be viewed at: http://streams.cei.org/, includes footage of Gore and his constant air travel with two CO2 meters running at the bottom of the page that compare Gore’s carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions with those of an average person.

Enjoy!”

“The tax payer pays 30% of the Gore fuel cost ,but pays 120% for the Bush bill.”

“Oh, so this is about money and not the environment now? ... that's what I thought! LOL”

“SARGE may I issue a heartfelt apology I put the same thing on the Envrionmental Thread....But fun stuff HAS TO BE SHARED”

“It's all about getting the word out XL. Offer your apology to Gore and the global warming alarmists. LOL!”

“I did send them an apology...apparently the sweat of my TWINS after a long hike was not seen as a gift.”

“hehehe”

“some people just have to let the 60s go, man”

“Violin liked it so well he had to post this in mult threads.
LOL”

“anybody heard any good newt gingrich jokes lately?

NEWTY, you remember this typical family values-spewing hack?

NEWTY, the guy who led the effort to impeach Billybob for lying about having an extramarital while he himself was lying about having an extramarital affair. mmmmkay. remember, this all took place during his second marriage. the first one ended when he told his wife he was divorcing her while she was in the hospital undergoing cancer treatment

but i digress....and to think it all could have been over in a second if billybob had said "yep, she gave me a world class knob schlobber, why do you want to know?"”