Pravda Interview of Pat Buchanan

“This is about a 15 minute read so for once I won't do a cut and paste.

This is the Pat Buchanan no one in the Amerikan press will touch. Thank Allah for Pravda!

Here's the url. http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/12/18/23938.html”

“Thanks for not cutting and pasting! Here's your link:
Pravda interview

If lack of HTML has kept you from doing this before, here's how to make a link that opens in it's own window: Simply copy and paste this:

<a href="INSERT URL"target="_blank">INSERT LINK NAME</a>

In place of INSERT URL, put in the URL of the website (copy and paste from your browser's address bar).
Don't forget the http:// part or it will be assumed to be on the www.thebackpacker.com server.

In place of INSERT LINK NAME, choose a name for the link.

Interesting read. I take it back. Pat is not a xenophobe:
"America is being swamped. We have 35 million Hispanics, and 1.5 million immigrants coming in every year, a third of them illegal aliens, and 90% of them from the Third World. There are 45 million people in our country who do not speak English at home. We face the same Balkanization that pulled the Soviet Union apart.

By 2050, a majority of Americans will trace their ancestry to Asia, Africa and Latin America, not Europe. America will be, predominantly, a Third World country. While these are hard-working good people, they will not preserve the Western heritage, history, heroes, literature, faith or culture. All the subject peoples from the Western colonial empires, from China to Southeast Asia, from India and Pakistan, to Arabia and Africa, are sending their peoples north to invade the Mother Countries of the West. Invading armies go home, immigrant armies do not. The West is being invaded, peacefully, and occupied. Mexicans and even Mexican-Americans talk of a "Reconquista," the recapture of the lands they lost to America in The Mexican War."”

“Violin,
Pat would be a xenophobe if after telling you all this he said we have to do something about it. He didn't. He was just stating a fact.
Lamenting the death of Western Civilization is not the same thing as defending to the death Western Civilization.”

“We must have a different understanding of the word.

xen·o·phobe
n.
A person unduly fearful or contemptuous of that which is foreign, especially of strangers or foreign peoples.”

“Even in the blinding glare of Pats own words you still fail to see him as a xenophobe.Perhaps you need to go back to the link I posted a while back and do some reviewing... You SH have some mighty thick blinders on.

You are making this far too easy.”

“SPANK!”

“there went that last shred of dignity.”

“When a problem comes around

You must whip it

When SH comes to town

You must whip him”

“Violin,
Carefully read the Buchanan quote you posted. I do not detect any fear in his words. He is clearly stating what is happening in this country, no more, no less. In this case it’s my opinion that you're projecting into his words what you think you know about Buchanan.

Now is Buchanan truly a xenophobe? I personally don't think he is. I'm pretty sure he's an isolationist. I do believe he thinks there are some things in Western Civilization worth holding unto. If you read the whole article I think you can get a sense of this. My take on Buchanan is that he might not like what is happening regarding immigration in the US, but he has determined that there is probably not much we could or should do about it.

I for one think this country could benefit from a slow move towards Second World country status. Maybe then we could stop meddling in the affairs of everyone and come down off our high horse. The sooner we do this the better off the whole world will be. Everyone, friend and foe alike, dislikes a bullying superpower.

To even go further I can see the benefits that would come from the peaceful dissolution of the Republic. Mexico by osmosis would rightfully absorb Southern California, Arizona, New Mexico, and most of Texas. Read your history. We outright stole it from them. The Hawaiians would be able to get back what was stolen from them also. Alaskans would want to go their own way. They might even drill in the ANWR. Maybe a breakaway ecotopian republic consisting of Northern California, Oregon, Idaho, and Washington would form. I wouldn’t mind living in a place where bicycles and horses were the primary modes of transportation and wind power ran the beer cooler.

And those aren’t the only places that might benefit from a breakup. Believe me when I tell you there are many in the South who to this day desire something akin to the geographic equivalent of the old Confederacy. Now before you go accusing me of wanting to bring back slavery or Jim Crowe, don’t. That’s not why the old Confederacy was formed and it won’t be the basis of the new one. (But for right now let’s save that argument for another thread.) These New Confederacy types aren’t all Bubbas running around in white sheets either. There is a lot of old time Jeffersonian anti-Federalist sentiment in the South. We’ve been on the receiving end of superpower bullying and Reconstruction (like what is happening in Afghanistan right now). We know what the Feds will do to you if you buck them. But we also know what happened to the Soviet Union. We can wait.

The thing is we might not have to wait too much longer. Some of that division is happening right now. Sectionalism is alive and well in the USA. You can certainly see this in regional ecological policies and politics. It’s also true of foreign policy and economics. People all over the country may sympathize with New Yorkers and Washingtonians as individuals because of 911, but at the same time many out in the hinterlands of the Republic are suffering because of the policies of both locations. Large swatches of this country are basically nothing more than economic colonies of Wall Street. Average middle class citizens have become wage slaves to corporation men who only care about what the last quarter's numbers were. These men owe their allegiance to the Wall Street oligarchy and the controlling interest shareholders. Americans were willing to look the other way during the 90s because they thought they were making 401k “fortunes” right along with the “Big Boys”.

But it’s 2001 and things have changed. And that brings us back to Buchanan. Now I’ll admit that Buchanan is not electable. BUT the issues he talks about today and was talking about eight, ten, and twelve years ago will be issues the Democrats, the Greens, the Reforms etc. will use against the Bush administration in the next elections. Those issues (NAFTA, GATT, WTO, IMF, etc.) will resonate extremely well with Average Joe American if the economy keeps trending downward.

Therefore when you see me post a “Vote Buchanan in the next election”, know that SH may not be telling you to vote for the man, but to vote for policies you may want reflected in your national government.”

“marvin?”

“It is impossible to awaken someone who is pretending to be asleep.
- Navajo proverb”

“SH said " I do not detect any fear in his words. "

Pat said "...are sending their peoples north to invade the Mother Countries of the West. Invading armies go home, immigrant armies do not."

I agree SH, that's not fear, its fear mongering. What it says is " look out white folks, cause here comes darky!"”

“LOL Birch,

"Don't project your thoughts and fears onto Pat Buchanan."

Old Sol proverb”

“America was founded on freedom. To imply that people coming in from other countries threatens American history and heros and such is him being defensive. As people come here from different countries their language, food, and traditions become part of the American way of life. If people put in the hard work to become citizens I support them completely. However do have a problem when politicians make deals to have illegal immigration possible in certain circumstances. In CA a blind eye is turned to illegal immigration because of the aggricultral implications and I think that is wrong. A large hispanic population has developed and their way of life here is much better than in Mexico, but their way of life in CA is bringing down the average which is forcing tax dollars to be used for studies and programs to benefit people that are here illegally in the first place. I do believe that their children will have a better standard of living because of public education... so everything cancels out... enough rambling, back to work”

“SH, I am not projecting anything on ole' Pat. Perhaps hearing Pat's own words may help you out. If claiming that an army is invading your homeland isnt made to instil fear what is the point.If Pats point was to inform I am sure he could have found a less confrontational approach (read that as more effective). I figure he has done a fair job at undercutting his own credibility. You seem to really pick some winners on your list of people to admire. When you tire of Pat perhaps David Duke or maybe Louis Farrakhan.

I imagine, no gaurantee that when the Irish first came to New York there was trouble with "those people" wrecking stuff and tainting the true heritage of the US. H@ll they were even Catholics!!! Then when Italians and Bulgarians and h@ll Sol your kin folk moved here they pissed folks off.

Claiming that others will ruin America simply because of their nation of birth is sheer gibberish.”

“"Claiming that others will ruin America simply because of their nation of birth is sheer gibberish"

Does this include the French and Canadians, not to forget the French/Canadians? LOL! Couldn't help meself!”

“Nigal, We must of course make an exception for the French and Canada...They are in cahoots to destroy us !!!!!!!!LOL”