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The ROUND EARTH Conspiracy

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'Science' today and 'scientists' consist of the same old gang of witch doctors, sorcerers, tellers of tales, the 'Priest-Entertainers' for the common people. 'Science' consists of a weird, way-out occult concoction of jibberish theory-theology...unrelated to the real world of facts, technology and inventions, tall buildings and fast cars, airplanes and other Real and Good things in life; technology is not in any way related to the web of idiotic scientific theory. ALL inventors have been anti-science. The Wright brothers said: "Science theory held us up for years. When we threw out all science, started from experiment and experience, then we invented the airplane." By the way, airplanes all fly level on this Plane earth.


The Fact the Earth is Flat is not my opinion, it is a Proved Fact. The Sun and Moon are about 3,000 miles away are both 32 miles across. The Planets are 'tiny.' Sun and Moon do Move, earth does NOT move, whirl, spin or gyrate. Australians do NOT hang by their feet under the world...this is a FACT, not a theory! Also a Fact the Spinning, Whirling, Gyrating Ball World Planet, Globe Idea is Entirely 100% now and at all times in the Past, a RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE...a Blind Dogmatic Article of Faith in the Religion for the Blind unreasoning beast of prey. No earthly reason for a Sane, Upright Member of the Elite Elect Humans to subscribe to it. Also a Fact, today the Elite of Earth ALL live on the Flat World. Only the illogical, unreasoning "herd"...prefers the way-out occult weird theology of the old Greek superstitution earth a spinning ball! Both Copernecious and Newton, the inventors of the "modern" superstitions (400 year OLD modern) have said: "It is not possible for a Sane reasonable person to ever really believe these Theories." Thus sayeth Newton-Copernecious. What sayeth THOU?

Wherever you find people with a great reservoir of common sense, they don't believe idiotic things such as the earth spinning around the sun. Reasonable, intelligent people have always recognized that the earth is flat.
Marvin Gardens
12:25:22 PM
12/27/01

I think you have been smoken a little to much
Ice Tea
12:27:58 PM
12/27/01

We can have a discussion about whether quantum physics really exists too.

That might be fun
Biz
12:41:42 PM
12/27/01

Biz -

Only when you're not looking.
Violin
12:44:35 PM
12/27/01

'ALL inventors have been anti-science.'

How do ya figure?
Biz
4:10:35 PM
12/27/01

It does......On paper......But to prove things like that in real life good luck with that....I mean on the discussion of quantum physics.....
iluvbackpacking
4:14:01 PM
12/27/01

The internet doesn't exist either.
gordon
5:07:25 PM
12/27/01

There is also no such person as Marvin Gardens.
gordon
5:08:13 PM
12/27/01

Ya it does just ask Al Gore.
iluvbackpacking
5:12:08 PM
12/27/01

Scientific Discovery
Some modern scientists believe discoveries are made not by experiment, but rather by keeping the mind open. When the mind is open, it is ready to receive 'oracles' of knowledge.

So the trick is to keep the mind open and in a heightened state of awareness. A lot of scientific discoveries have been made this way, where they were suddenly 'realized.' Often concurrently by different scientists in different parts of the globe working independently.. Gestalt psychology explains it all.
Biz
5:43:29 PM
12/27/01

One should always keep an open mind, but not to the point at which one's brain falls out.

To wit:

Schrödinger's Cat is half dead. No problem!
Tilt
8:06:14 PM
12/27/01

heh
good point Tilt
Biz
11:41:47 PM
12/27/01

Sphere Schmere
Wouldn't it be wierd if the Earth were really an oval that was fatter at the equator than from pole to pole.
Buddur
12:22:32 AM
12/28/01

isn't it?
radagast
8:35:14 AM
12/28/01

If The World Is Flat...Which Side Are We On?
...and what if it spun on n axis...that wobbled?
Buddur
8:41:44 AM
12/28/01

Alright... it's an oblate spheroid with a 50-foot bulge on the side facing the Moon. Didn't anyone else read that Isaac Asimov essay?


"Quantum Mechanics: the dreams stuff is made of."

-Anon.
Tilt
8:44:52 AM
12/28/01

OKAY you 'scientifically correct' crackpots. Please explain the origin of the term: THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH.

Are you just PARROTING that which is expounded every day by so-called 'scientists', the media and political leaders, or CAN you REASON?
Marvin Gardens
10:55:35 AM
12/28/01

time to go marvin ,drink your koolaid like a good fellow now... soon everything will be fine...
haiku rhymer
11:07:19 AM
12/28/01

how can it be flat, when it's HOLLOW?
radagast
11:07:37 AM
12/28/01

Whats in his koolaid?
iluvbackpacking
11:09:20 AM
12/28/01

So Let Me Get This Straight....
You're calling people "crackpots" because they aren't answering a question that you yourself cannot answer?

If the world was truely flat, and it had four sided (other than the top and bottom) then there would actually be 4 corners. If the world were flat and had 5 sided (other than the top and bottom) than there would be 5 corners, etc., etc., etc. If the world were flat, had four sides (other than the top and bottom) but had depth, then there would actually be 8 corners. If the world were flat, had five sides (other than the top and bottom) but had depth, then there would actually be 10 corners, etc., etc., etc. Anywho...if the world were flat and there were corners, they'd've been eroded down to rounded edges, and we prolly wouldn't have corners anymore in this day and age.
Buddur
11:10:34 AM
12/28/01

You have a good point Buddur....But lets face it the earth is round and thats that...
iluvbackpacking
11:12:57 AM
12/28/01

Well what about the four corners of a fitted sheet, Huh?

So what's the answer, Huh?

Huh?

Huh?


Hey Budder, that reminds me of something we did in a Calculus class. You can generate the formula for the area of a circle by computing the area of a polygon as the number of sides approaches infinity.

It works for the volume of a sphere, also.

Watch out for that Tesseract...
Tilt
11:23:28 AM
12/28/01

Well at least Buddur is capable of REASONING. He may be the most SANE of the lot of you.

The Earth is IN FACT as circular and as flat as a phonograph record. The North Pole is at the center. At the outer edge lies the southern ice, reputed to be a wall 150 feet high; no one has ever crossed it, and therefore what lies beyond is unknown. The corners have OBVIOUSLY eroded off in the THOUSANDS OF YEARS since Isaiah wrote 'And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.'

For proof, look at the MAP OF THE WORLD in the UNITED NATIONS EMBLEM AND FLAG.

http://www.un.org/depts/dhl/maplib/flag.html
Marvin Gardens
11:28:03 AM
12/28/01

"Proof?"
The earth is round(ish.)

For proof, look at the globe in my dining room.
Fritz
11:31:04 AM
12/28/01

If anyone ever manages to fold a fitted sheet, a rift will open in the space-time continuum.


Ever see TIME BANDITS?
Tilt
11:38:33 AM
12/28/01

My aim is not to 'disturb the herd' or wreck the Government, but rather to be an aid to the ELITE HUMAN BEING (who use Logic Reason are Rational) in coming to KNOW earth flat... to then FREE his or her mind from such blind unreasoning 'theory-superstition' and so go on to carefully observe, think freely, rediscover forgotten facts and oppose theoretical dogmatic assumptions.
Marvin Gardens
11:41:31 AM
12/28/01

Tilt, you just solved one of the great mysteries of all time...

Why do I have so many unmatched socks? They must've fallen into that rift...
Fritz
11:43:35 AM
12/28/01

hmm....

40 pound bag... can hold 5 heads.

cool, thanks!
radagast
12:10:59 PM
12/28/01

whoa!

wrong thread!
radagast
12:12:18 PM
12/28/01

The earth is an irregular oblate spheroid.

Marvin Gardins is flat.
gordon
5:18:42 PM
12/28/01

Gee I thought MG's head was hollow too.
treebait
5:21:19 PM
12/28/01

NAH, I'mnot drunk! A quantum black hole just zipped by and sucked me right offa this barstool


As for Marvin, it's too bad Rod Serling isn't here to help us explain this one.
Tilt
5:26:09 PM
12/28/01

And so we dance
Some psudonym like Marvin Gardens pops off with erudition on a concept designed to challenge and possibly enflame and man, don't we dance for him! And when the chatter calms down or begins not to focus on him, he tosses out another morsel and off we go again!

I imagine that for Marvin, we're more fun to watch than Sea Monkeys!

Marvin's getting what he wants. Are we?
ogregon
5:32:19 PM
12/28/01

What do you want?
Biz
5:40:29 PM
12/28/01

He is amusing.

Pathetic, but amusing.

The replies to his posts is like the traffic jam created by rubberneckers at the scene of a fatal car accident.
gordon
5:41:01 PM
12/28/01

Biz, why would I tell you? So you could hop around for me or give your opinion .... "as if ...?"
ogregon
9:29:53 PM
12/28/01

uh no.

But you have to admit, there's not a whole lot else to talk about when backpacking or otherwise

Ü
Biz
9:44:17 PM
12/28/01

LMAO @ radagast!
skullcap
9:45:53 PM
12/28/01

Right on, Biz. There are so many chatrooms out there where 'net predators can drop in, stir things up with an off-the-wall position statement calculated to spark reaction ...and get the instant feedback they need from all the folks that take the bait.

I'd have thought backpackers, wanting to keep this message board relatively jerk-off free, would drive such folks away simply by not responding when some dill weed poses as a retired Marine colonel who defames women as lesser life forms, or this flat-earth dweebil, and get back to the fun biz of sharing info and experience about backpacking. "...BBBUUUUTTT NOOOOOOOOO!!!!" (with apologies to John Belushi).
ogregon
5:06:32 PM
12/29/01

ogregon,

This board is off-topic more than it is on, and most of us like it that way, which is why we are here.

There are lots of message boards on the 'net, if you don't like this one I am sure you can find one that suits you better.

And WRT the trolls for whom we dance...we know exactly what we are doing.
Fritz
10:18:59 PM
12/29/01

Meanwhile, in Abel's Hill Cemetery on Martha's Vineyard, John Belushi is still dead.
Tilt
8:51:21 AM
12/30/01

(West Rim Trail?)
Tilt
9:06:34 AM
12/30/01

Ogregon... To be honest with you I think that this goofball, Marvin, is probably the least annoying of all Trolls out there. His posts are not at all about backpacking..but what percentage of threads actually are? Fritz is right too...we usually change his topics immediately and I really don't think anybody gives him the discussion he is looking for.
adventurist
9:31:32 AM
12/30/01

Tilt, this time, WRT = "with respect to"
Fritz
9:54:18 AM
12/30/01

Actually for some reason I think Marvin Gardens is an alter ego of one of the other regular posters.
Fritz
9:56:31 AM
12/30/01

I think his middle name is Lloyd, (ha).

Thanks for the translation. I think my favorite acronym has to be BTSOOM ("Beats The S*** Out Of Me" sometimes expressed as "hellifino").
Tilt
10:39:40 AM
12/30/01

Fritz...
Good for you! Me, when I feel like dancing I'll find some good music and an agile partner.

You mentioned there are "a lot of good message boards out there ..." If you know of one where backpackers actually mostly talk about backpacking, I'd appreciate a tip as to the URL.
ogregon
4:47:15 PM
12/30/01

Here ya Go!

If you guys don't quit pushing each other around someone is going to get shoved off the edge!
wolfsister
5:19:39 PM
12/30/01

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