I wanna trade my Thermorest

“I wanna trade my full length Thermorest for a full length Z-Rest.

Anybody interested?”

“It's 1 1/2 " thick
and weighs 1 lb 11 ozs.
Blue & Brown”

“but WD.....can you tell me why you no longer want a thermorest? (i was just about to use a gift certificate from llbean to buy one......)”

“because it weighs almost 2 pounds.”

“They are a pain to roll up
too heavy
self inflating MY BUTT! Ya have to blow them up yourself
may gey punctured



Z-rest
lighter
folds up quickly
don't matter if they get punctured
no need to blow them up




Wanna Trade!!??!!??”

“which model is it?

only the full length ultralight is lower than that weight.”

“It's 1 1/2 " thick
and weighs 1 lb 11 ozs.
Blue & Brown”

“reeeally? LOL!!!!

you don't remember which model?”

“i have a ridgerest 3/4 length...too short for you, besides...nah, after your comments...maybe i should stick with a good thing....heh...
ooooo...NOW what should i get with the gift certificate?..:)”

“if it's that light, and that thickness, i may consider. that's lighter than mine.”

“That was the weight that came up when I hung it from my digital fish weigher.”

“On the side of the stuff sack it says
"Standard Long"”

“I don't have either one but I will have to get one eventually. Which one is more comfortable and would the difference in weight make up for you being comfortable or uncomfortable. Just curious.”

“for me? the thermarest is a lot more comfy... and warm. mmmm... warm...”

“Ewker, I went back & forth on this one for a while. Z-rest, or Ridge Rest is a great lightweight option, but this was an area where I decided that the comfort provided by the Therma-rest was worth the extra pound. I am a light sleeper and I need all the help I can get. The few inches of air beneath me make a big difference.”

“I carry the thermarest guidelight long and a 3/4 ridge rest. The extra few ounces is worth the comfort. If I were to do it again, I would get the full length ridge rest and a 3/4 thermarest.”

“i have the guidelight long, too. it is the lightest of the 1.5 inch thick ones.”

“by the way....

welcome back, kodger... welcome back...”

“Yo wd-
I got a z-rest for ya-
still got the origional package.

even swap?”

“OK!!!”

“Go check out the petzl tikka headlamp if ya don't already have one. Pretty cool light!”

“thinair you are right--funky blue light.
It is so small I thought I lost it.”

“guidelight long too, use ridgerest in addition for winter.”

“I've never needed two pads before. One pad is good enough.”

“yeah. my thermarest is plenty enough. two pads? man, that would be like a real mattress, tho.”

“I sleep cold as it is, frozen ground or snow, I need it!”

“rad, that is the point.”

“were you sarge serta?”

“Captain Comfort”

“Dude and Rad...Wait 10 years and you guys will be singing a different tune! I would leave anything at home before I left my 3/4 2" thick thermarest! LOL”

“"Dude and Rad"

huh?

i won't leave home without my thermarest, either! the dude is nuts!”

“I didn't have to wait that long.
I traded in my 3/4 explorer for a full length luxury this year. It weighs more but I'm happier.”

“my excellent son gave me a tikka for christmas!....i totally love it.....been readin in bed with it since christmas...heh”

“who needs a photon II with it. About the size of a golf ball, but its a headlamp.”

“Thanks JOSH MAN.

We swapped pads.”

“FYI. If you have trouble sleeping on the hard ground like me, I was carrying a standard long PLUS a closed cell pad. Now I just have the Thermarest LE which is 2" thick and weighs the same as the standard long. I love it. With the chair conversion kit, I have a great chair and pad for about 3 lbs.

The extra thickness of the Thermarest LE over the 1 or 1.5" thick versions is very noticable.”

“Phil, I did the same and it was one of the best things I have ever done for myself!”

“Thanks to walkindude--I owe you a stuff sack.”

“That what I use Phil. I love it.”

“Wow, 2-1/2 lbs....

I'll bet it is comfy.”

“Yup, it sure is.
I'll just have to reduce weight elsewhere.”

“Well waddya know...

I've been using a Stearns self-inflating pad that my wife bought for my son a while back...

I was in Walmart last night and saw what I think is the same pad, and the label says it weighs THREE POUNDS!

And I bet it isn't half as comfy as the 2-1/2 lb. Thermarest LE...

That's why I need a scale. ;-)”

“Right now I'm using 2 foam pads (both full length, 20 in. wide). What I'm considering replacing them with is a full length ultralite thermarest and full length 20 in. Z-rest pad. I am a very cold sleeper (especially my feet) and because of physical considerations I need a lot of padding. Do you guys think I would be better off getting that Thermarest LE instead? Width is not a factor, I'm narrow. It sounds like it would be more padding. Would it be just as warm? Phil, I seem to remember you posting once that you used the thermarest ultralight and a ridgerest. What say you?”

“Skully, Phil's post above indicates he now uses only the Thermarest.”

“I know that. That's why I want his opinion on this. I know that he's tried both and would be well qualified for a compare and contrast discussion.”

“i've been using the mountain hardwear backcountry 72. 2lbs., 6oz. it has both closed and open cell foam laminated together. not self inflating (no worry about leaks), nice little pocket in the cover to stuff fleece in for a pillow, good insulating and comfort. they have a trailhead 72 that is thicker. 2lbs., 13oz. they also have some that have built in chair conversion system. ”

“Skully-go for it. I held off for years,but the benefit far outweighs the downside-weight & the fact they are a bit slick.
I do carry a repair kit just in case.
I'm sure I got the best end of the deal in the trade with WD-
You might be short enough for the 3/4 length-”

“Yeah JOSHMAN. You got the best end of the deal $$ wise but for me I got what I needed. I like the feel of the Z-rest pad just as well and don't like the extra weight plus rolling a Thermorest up and babying it so as not to puncture it.
Now I have a 3/4 length for warmer days and the full length for bitter cold days.

I'm happy! :@D
.”

“I have looked at a lot of websites trying to find someone who is selling this Backpackers Combo by Cascade Designs. It consist of a Therm-a-Rest Lite 20 Chair, Guidelight Pad, stuff sack and a Hot Bond Repair Kit. On Cascade Designs Web page it list for
$109.00. I know somebody has to have it for less even though when you add it all up it totals a lot more if bought separately.”