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35mm or digital
Any suggestions on which type of camera wil function the best on a cold weather trip in N.PA.in early march.
landsurfer
10:40:09 PM
1/03/02

digital.
TownDawg
11:08:48 PM
1/03/02

I have always had the best luck with use one time one's.All the pictures that are up on my website were taken with one.


Crazy Mike
iluvbackpacking
5:58:28 AM
1/04/02

I really like the disposables. No loss if their trashed.
CompostPile
6:19:08 AM
1/04/02

I use digitals all the time but your biggest problem will be if the batteries get cold. Just warm them in your pocket or armpit before you use them.
humanpackmule
7:32:31 AM
1/04/02

My camera "froze" on me when it snowed. Or the battery ran down, don't know which. Do digitals have this problem as bad?
steve hiker
7:33:02 AM
1/04/02

Digitals freeze when the battery freezes so you have to keep the battery warm. Just be sure your digital doesn't loose data when the battery is out. Some of the first digital did but I believe that is no longer a problem due to memory sticks and cards. In any case make sure by testing it out at home.

It is my understanding that digitals don't have moving parts like a 35mm does. So you don't have to worry about mechanical failure due to temp. Just warm up the battery before you use it.
humanpackmule
7:41:59 AM
1/04/02

hpm: that was my thoughts exactly.. but your.. your.. ARMPIT?.. eWwWwwww... doesn't that corrosion from your armpit MELT the battery?
TownDawg
7:45:55 AM
1/04/02

Baking soda my man,
Baking soda
humanpackmule
7:49:07 AM
1/04/02

I had my digital out in conditions where temps were around 20-30. Now that is not super cold.... but I wanted to let you know the camera worked great. It also was out of the wind.
lizs
7:55:39 AM
1/04/02

I had my digital out in conditions where temps were around 20-30. Now that is not super cold.... but I wanted to let you know the camera worked great. It also was out of the wind.
lizs
7:56:09 AM
1/04/02

35mm-all the rules regarding the batteries is the same.And from what I can see so far they are more durable. I have an old Canon that I take,and depending on weather and subjects an Advantix.
Moisture will kill a camera faster than anything.
The size and weight of the digitals is attractive though, my SLR bag is as big as a good sized daypack.
JOSH MAN
8:35:31 AM
1/04/02

Some digitals will accept your 35mm filters too.
humanpackmule
8:46:41 AM
1/04/02

ya, that SLR that UpRocks hauled on our last trip was his luxury item.. biggest thing he noticed was how the cold affected the wind speed.
TownDawg
8:54:47 AM
1/04/02

WIND, not to be confused with WIND.
TownDawg
8:55:12 AM
1/04/02

Thanks for the input on cameras.
Just needed a good excuse to buy one. Im looking at a canon S110 Elf. My concern was the lithium ion battery in the cold.
landsurfer
3:01:49 PM
1/04/02

heh.. no problem.. one thing about this board.. you WILL get answers.. :)
TownDawg
3:03:20 PM
1/04/02

Dude I can help you on that one!

I'm using a cannon s120. If you go to the "Smoky Mountains?" thread (sorry too whooped to do any HTML) there is a link to my troop site all the photos (almost) were taken on that camera.

Get the microdrive and a rechargable battery. At max resolution I get about 150 photos slightly less resolution 250 images. The strandard Li batteries don't last very long for me. If nothing else get a rechargable battery.

And keep it warm.
humanpackmule
3:13:39 PM
1/04/02

Whoops.
Make that an S20
humanpackmule
8:50:31 AM
1/05/02

Here's your solution:
From my experience, all digital cameras go through batteries like crazy. I can get approximately 60 rolls of film through my Nikon F5 using Lithium Ion batteries. Using the same set of batteries in my Nikon 990 digital, I might get the equivalent of a roll or two at a reasonable resolution for printing. Where am I going with this? Well, the only problem I've ever had with cameras and cold weather shooting has been battery drain due to the cold. That being the case, you will have better results with a decent film camera in cold weather.

I have only had one camera ever actually freeze up (mechanically) in the cold, and that was my Mamiya RB67. It doesn't even have a battery, and it froze once doing an outdoor portrait in the extreme cold. How stupid was that?

Now for the solution: They make a wonderful little portable heat device that you tear open to activate. It's in a cellophane wrapper, and will last a few hours. If I know I'm going to be shooting in the cold, I always take a few of those things with me, as well as some elastics, and I attach them to my F5 right where the batteries are located using a couple of elastics. It will do wonders for battery life.

Hobbit
9:17:07 AM
1/05/02

My HP 215 digital uses AA batteries, so using Lithium batteries in cold and with longer life works good. Plus you can turn off the LCD and use the standard viewfinder while snapping pics and just use it for playback later if you want - or a simple 3 second playback right after taking the pic to see how it came out. My experience is that the LCD is the part that sucks up the most juice.
SGT R0ck
9:30:32 AM
1/05/02

Yep, I never use the LCD. My rechargeable Li battery lasts about a week or so in moderate conditions.
humanpackmule
11:26:20 AM
1/05/02

I'm going to get a digental Kodack 3900 with the desk thingy. 3.1 mega pixles, lots of memory
Ice Tea
9:24:04 PM
1/05/02

35mm or digital
Are you saying I should look into getting a digital that takes AA
batteries. That would make sense to me. The new Energizer E Photobatteries are supposed to last up to 5 times longer.
landsurfer
7:30:34 PM
1/06/02

Consider investing in a good set of rechargeable batteries. You'll save a lot of $$ in the long run.
G00SE
7:37:46 PM
1/06/02

I don't know about the AA thing. Just get the best quality rechargable battery you can find.

My rechargable battery is a Li and when I say it lasts a week I mean it lasts a week with constant use and the rare use of the LCD and then needs recharging. I've been using the same battery for about a year and a half now.

I do carry a regular spare though.
humanpackmule
7:48:10 PM
1/06/02

Actually, my point was this: Since the issue of cold is mainly a battery life issue, and the fact remains that a film camera is much more judicious in the battery consumption department, then the fact that follows is, a film camera would be more practical in cold weather. Of course, the alternative is to take lots of batteries, and somehow keep them warm before using them.
Hobbit
8:26:54 PM
1/06/02

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