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What's wrong with this picture?

This is from the cover of a USFS Glacier Peak Wilderness map, circa 1969. How many wilderness infractions can you find? moooooHAHAHA!
kleetn
11:49:21 AM
1/07/02

The obvious are his fire & the fact that he's camped too close to the water, doesn't look like 200' to me.
wanderer
11:55:28 AM
1/07/02

?? same!
Prowler
12:01:12 PM
1/07/02

What's Wrong? I'm Not In The Picture!
The *wilderness* looks fine to me!
Buddur
12:01:44 PM
1/07/02

The tent should be distant from the fire and eating areas to prevent excessive damage in one area.

Can't tell for sure if he dug up the sod for replacement over the campfire site.

His fire area is excessive, and unless it is needed for cooking, it appears warm enough to skip having a fire (in a wilderness area).

Paul
nowslimmer
12:13:53 PM
1/07/02


"The tent should be distant from the fire and eating areas ....


and also for bear safety.
Pathman
12:16:51 PM
1/07/02

He doesn't have his hand on his bottle of hootch. A TTer is apt to steal it and down the contents.
Limpy
12:25:33 PM
1/07/02

Geez, I don't know. He's not far enough below the tree line to camp?

His tent is orange instead of camo colored?
Splash
12:35:42 PM
1/07/02

His fly is open.
BS
12:38:09 PM
1/07/02

darn, hes doing everthing wrong
Prowler
12:39:59 PM
1/07/02

His tent should be spun 90 degrees, so in the morning he could awake to the view of lake and mountain.
Limpy
12:42:40 PM
1/07/02

This was taken at Image Lake, with Glacier Peak in the background. Camping is now restricted to no closer than 1000' from the lake, and fires are not allowed (no wonder, this guy used all the available wood).

No comments on the fashion faux pas? "Where'd ya git that hat, mofo?"

BTW, I used a tent just like the one in the picture on my first backpacking adventure (and woke up soaked from the condensation.)
kleetn
12:43:53 PM
1/07/02

I use to have a tent like that too!
I use to build big fires like that too!
I use to camp too close to the lake too!
I use to have a hat like that too!
Hay, that's me in the picture!
BS
12:50:19 PM
1/07/02

This shot was most likely taken way prior to the LNT movement came into swing in the early 70's. Its is to bad that the influx of careless newbie hikers in the 60's 70's has ruined the true experience of hiking/ camping the way that guy is experiencing it. At that time I see nothing wrong with what he is doing. I would imagine that he was mostly likely the only one out there. Now what he did the follow morning we will never know. That looks like a awesome place to spend the night. Lakeside camp w/fire and a view of the Mt's. What more can you ask for.

Where is the wilderness when your experience is hampered before you leave the door of your house?
Minister of Truth
1:03:29 PM
1/07/02

The hat DOES suck.

Those K-Mart tents bite.

I too had one like that on my first adventure and each of us thought the other guy had pissed hisself next morning.

Tom Terrific
1:06:13 PM
1/07/02

Yea, in my teen years an axe was a necessity for the backwoods; to be used for building all kinds of comforts for the camp.
BS
1:10:59 PM
1/07/02

Where's his SUV, cooler full of beer, and 1,000 rounds of ammo?
gordon
3:56:54 PM
1/07/02

Actually, that looks about right for 1969, about the time I asked for my first Pup tent.
Pathman
4:03:20 PM
1/07/02

1000 feet?
roseymonster
4:07:13 PM
1/07/02

AAACCCKKKK, the bastard is buring pull top aluminum cans!!! There's also some poopy in the water. What's with all that litter strewn about behind the tent?
Pantscandy
4:19:01 PM
1/07/02

Rosey, they now limit camping to a desinated spot 0.2 miles from the lake. Plenty of SUV parking available!

I still have the tent, if anyone cares to start the bidding...
kleetn
4:55:49 PM
1/07/02

EWWWWW...

Remember the smell of mildewing canvas?
Pathman
5:00:40 PM
1/07/02

I don't know that "the influx of careless newbie hikers in the 60's 70's has ruined the true experience of hiking/ camping the way that guy is experiencing it". I remember seeing plenty of trashed campsites in the 60's. I just don't think that people cared as much about the environment or imagined that anything could be done about it.

To be sure, if people still trashed the woods like they did in the "good old days" the sheer number of people going out there now would make it very unpleasant.

I think the change in attitudes about the environment that came about in the 60's and 70's is what led to restrictions.
Violin
5:14:43 PM
1/07/02

I remember seeing trash pits in the 80's, that dated to the 60's from the looks of the stuff, in the Pecos Wilderness.
Pathman
5:18:34 PM
1/07/02

"EWWWWW...

Remember the smell of mildewing canvas?"
Pathman
05:00:40 PM
01/07/02

Remember the weight of wet canvas tents ?"
nowslimmer
5:29:01 PM
1/07/02

An excerpt from the back of the map: "Before building a campfire, select a spot in an opening and clean an area at least 10 feet in diameter down to mineral soil."

Also: "Leave a clean camp. Burn as much of your garbage, especially fish heads and guts, as you can. Place the rest in garbage cans or pits."

mmmmm, nothing like the smell of burning fish guts-n-heads!
kleetn
5:43:21 PM
1/07/02

The smoke is blowing right into his face.
Big Coop
5:57:55 PM
1/07/02

You sheeple will never learn.
The hidden message is not obvious to the common brain washed American. What seems a pristine wilderness setting is in reality a covert CIA message. Those are not just trees and reflections, they are the voice print of President Nixon requesting a hooker.
bacpac
9:35:28 PM
1/07/02

Violin,
There was no "environment" in the 60's. And, If we'd kept going like we were going, we'd all be camping in grasslands.

Oh and kleetn, the smell of burning fish heads and guts still smell better than bear's breath.
BS
1:58:59 PM
1/08/02

the good ole' days, when times were bad.


-merle haggard
baume 66
2:13:10 PM
1/08/02

Yeah, what BacPac said!!
pedxing
3:22:32 PM
1/08/02

That scene looks like a great place to build an urban subdivision and a strip mall, after we clearcut the trees to enhance the view. One of the mountain peaks in the background would be a dandy place for a cell tower.
gordon
3:56:54 PM
1/08/02

While poking through some of my junk in the attic of my mother-in-law's house, I found the descriptive hang tag for my first good backpack, a Wilderness Experience Backpacker internal frame,(which I only moved on from last year) and the instruction booklet for my 1st-edition Coleman Peak 1 stove. Made me flash back 20+ years to the thrill of getting some quality equipment for the first time. They were both so clean back then, but both are still very usable.
pekka
5:24:48 PM
1/09/02

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