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“Sure, everyone likes to think they make nothing but good purchases when they buy backpacking gear, especially if you part with a bunch of dosh.
However, we ALL know that sometimes you buy that thing you think is gonna be great, or read somewhere it was great and it turns out to be a royal POS.
Let's hear it. Some of the worst stuff you've ever bought for backpacking.
Here's a few I've bought:
Stansport external frame pack. First pack I ever owned. My ten year old physique could torque the frame by grabbing hold and twisting. Sorriest padding ever. Disintegrated in about two years.
$5 mess kit with the crummy plastic cup that held about 5 tbs. The metal on one of the pans eventually creased and split.
CampKing pocket knife with the plastic "wood" handle. The implements never opened well and I dropped it once, shattering the "wood" so you could no longer hold it comfortably.
Sierra Designs Polargard 3D bag. Went limp after about a year of moderate use.”
“AdventureGear backpack, after putting 3o lbs in it, I picked it up to shoulder it and frame welds broke. Returned it and got a Coleman instead.”
“sort of like cosh only not as good a use”
“i'm surprised about the polarguard 3d. i swear by that fill. i'll have to think on this one.
first thing that comes to mind is a slumberjack bivy i purchased from somebody here. certainly a fair weather shelter at best. it might keep the dew off you.”
“That bivy does suck....”
“I bought a stainless steel knife, spoon, and fork combo thingy...guess what it rusted.”
“Gaurdian Sweetwater. They started out with quality but have ended up with sh!t.”
“Almost anything made with Gortex.
Anything by Slumberjack.”
“Gear Slut - You did say almost anything. I
Does your remark apply to those $350 jackets and pants? I thought such an outfit would be the cadilac of outfits on the trail.”
“GS - What did you not like about the Komperdell Poles? MSR stoves? Not trying to pick a fight, I just have the poles and a Pocket Rocket and I wounderin' if there's anything I should know.. Thanks!”
“The baskets on Komperdell poles are hard to change and those little plastic expansion plug/lock things have failed too often for my taste.
Good point about the MSR Pocket Rocket, I'll take back what I said and revise it to MSR liquid gas stoves.
nowslimmer - yep, I have no use for Gortex rainwear, gosh, I'll go so far as to say I am not kean on the PTFE membrane in most products including my Integral Designs single wall tent. It's useless and completey unbreatheable in the wet, works fine in cold conditions though. It sucks in boots too!”
“MSR Blacklite non-stick cookware - as someone else here has metnioned as well - does not prove all that 'non-sticky' in the field.”
“GS - You've probably told us in other strings, but just what do you recommend for clothing? I'm still using blue jeans, sweat shirts, etc. I do have a double fleece outfit for layering or sleeping. (I am very allergic to dacron.)”
“Every synthetic filled bag I've ever owned. Yes, that's EVERY ONE. Some took longer than others to do it, but one by one they have all lost a fair percentage of their loft, and thus warmth.
My Adida "Thunderstorm" waterproof? hiking boots with the gaiter's built in. Great concept, poor materials.”
“I don't wear anything spectacular or different.
I wear mainly synthetics like nylon hiking pants and microfleece shirts. I'm a big fan of Patagonia Capeline and Regulator clothing. I use a Marmot Precip jacket now.”
“My Esbit stove. If all you need is WARM water, I guess it's okay.
"If it don't use white gas, it ain't worth squat"!”
“Ditto what nigal said about the sweetwater. There's nothing in this world I like to rant about more BUT you've all heard it before :o)
Slumberjack. Nuf said.”
I Thought I'd Use It
“My candle lantern just sits on the shelf...waiting for the power in my house to go out.”
“Folding shovel like the military uses...I actually carried one on my first backpacking trip!
Talk about overkill...”
“I got an outbake oven that I can't bring to add to my pack. Seems like too much weight for limited use.”
...And Another Thing
“...I've had a number of Platypus collapsible water bottles of different sizes, and all of them sprang a leak. Great idea but they just don't last.
MSR DromaLites are the bomb!!!”
“GS - Thanks”
Gear that sucks!
I'll never waste money on another synthetic sleeping bag.
Peak 1 feather 400 stove.
Peak 1 Apex 1 & 2 stove.
Freeze Dried food.
Slumberjack Bivy (poles)
I personally don't like Thermorest pads but that's just me. Most people like them.”
“Smartwool Socks??? To each his own, I guess.
And with so many people ripping on synthetic-fill sleeping bags (because loss of loft with time)...I obviously don't use mine enough cause mine are still holding up.”
“Thanks for reminding me about candle lanterns Budder! Those Candoil oil burning inserts leak EVERYWHERE. I love candles and bought one of the tealight candle lanterns and like it a lot.”
“I have an oil lantern for backpacking that I bought back when I first started backpacking...
What a MESS!
It did shed a lot of light though!”
“I bought a brass Sierra cup with my name engraved in it .....I hate it ! It's still up in the attic.”
“REI Volcano quallofil bag. Rated 15degrees. Good for about 1 year.
Boy Scout issue canteen. Army surplus canteen.
Newco dome tent.”
“Princeton Tec Micro or something (?) - took it on a 6 day trip with one set of extra batteries. It died on the 2nd night. The spare batteries were gone by the 4th night. I used SnowDudes spare batteries for the rest of the trip. One set of batteries lasted 3 hrs. I replaced it with the Petzl Microlight, batteries lasted 7 hrs. Later used lithium batteries for longer trips. Now I use the TIKKA.”
“i use the petzl zoom zora”
“but now thats in storage”
“Rain gear that has the Campmor name on it.”
“Any sleeping bag that has a vapour lock barrier, unless you like sleeping in a bucket of your own sweat.
Kathmandu Kashgar Travel pack, the harness just cannot carry the load its designed to carry.
A candoil insert filled with citronella oil, The smell of citronella now just makes me wanna vomit.
Coleman Apex II, its a case of, now it works, next trip no it wont, next trip yes it will, no it wont....
I know there is more but I cant think of them right now.”
oil canister lantern
“Coleman Apex II, the pumps suck
12" cast iron skillet”
Every time I sleep in it the walls are dripping with condensation. I went on an overnighter the other day. Outside the tent there was not even any dew on the ground. It took two days for the tent to dry out under a ceiling fan on my patio.”
“I'm w/ you, Buddur. I've had no trouble w/ my synthetic fill sleeping bag. Just got a new sleeping bag that is also synthetic (Polarguard 3D). I'll be testing it out this weekend.
Peak Apex II pooped out on us after only two years.”
“flatlander, are you sure you don't have your tent inside out? nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.
So much crappy gear, so little time.
Sierra cups have always amazed me. They're not light. They are wide at the top, like a friggin' soup bowl, so your drink can slosh out on your feet. They don't keep anything warm, either!
My vote must ultimately go to Hi-Tec boots. I've only owned one pair and they lasted me one trip. The have as much ankle support as high-top tennis shoes and are thrown together by Indonesian kids making 10¢/week. A friend of mine bought a pair (against my warnings) and *suprise! suprise!* the side blew out on a switchback.”
“"They don't keep anything warm, either! "
Yet at the same time, is there any quicker way to burn your lips off down to the gums? Just another great backpacking paradox! LOL!”
Peak 1 Apex II
“I am not sure what the problem everyone is having with the Peak 1 Apex II stove. I have taken mine out and never had a problem except for me filling the fuel bottle to full and thus the trail name.
I do maintenance on my stove before I go out and after I come home. It is simple cleaning and a few drops of 3 in 1 oil in the pump and I make sure the stove is drained of all fuel as well as no fuel in the pump. This works for me....
“My Apex II still works fine after 6 years. I only had to replace a bum seal two years ago.”
“Synthetic bags, because they're heavy as hell and take up too much space in your pack.
Any pack over 2 pounds. There are too many good, lightweight packs out there now.”
“Worse BPing investment was a sierra cup. Do they still make those? Burned your lips on the first sip and one minute later your coffee was cold.
Wasn't really fond of my Kelty Zen tent after two Llama Ramas. Damn thing had way too much mesh, you couldn't get it to pitch without major wrinkles in the fly and it wasn't a free standing tent. Not a tent for the high sierra.
I love Smart Wool socks and Primus, Optimus or Svea stoves.”
“I was sold Copper Mesh Brillo pads to create a protective shield for my head especially while I sleep to deflect electromagnetic waves. – didn’t work.”
“I'm glad to hear others hate the whisperlite MSR stove. I thought it would be great, WRONG., heats OK but what a Pain to fool with. Biggest letdown/$.”
“Those big suitcase type 2 burner coleman propane stoves..GOD ALMIGHTY...i don't know why more boy scouts aren't killed every year just by those alone...propane cylinders shooting off into nylon tents...green boxes exploding into fireballs....i hate these things..still give me nightmares...and i like my MSR whisperlite!!”
“I love every piece of gear I own!
I always pick what I purchace carefully and after consideration. I'm too poor to buy something dumb!
The Lighter and Cheaper the Better!”
“And of course anything you make yourself is better than anything you buy. Also gear with the most utility are good choices.”
“If you give yourself a flobee hair cut the electromagnetic waves will be dispursed through static electricity.”
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