Morning "voiding..."

“Several times in the past year, when waking with a full bladder, I have felt very light-headed and nearly passed out while standing and relieving myself.

Has anyone had this experience, or know what causes it?

I am thinking it may be a guy-thing, related to the standing position while urinating. But it also has something to do with morning.

(The last time this happened was on a BP trip at 5am, in the dark, which made the sensation a bit scary.)”

“Micturition Syncope

and the pretzel that got the Pres

Tussive Syncope”

“Nope I have never had that,,,but I do gets the shiver! when urinating and I have no idea what causes that. It wells up from deep within the body and works its way out fast and uncontrollable.”

“Way too much information here, folks!! Just keep moving, nothing to see here, nothing to see....

Tex”

“It has happened to me when I get up too fast. Something about my blood pressure not being able to equal out or something.”

“LOL @ Tex!

Hey, I warned you in the thread title, you didn't have to stop in!”

“Thats strange........:0”

“I get light-headed and feel like I'm gonna pass out from squeezing one out, other than that peeing just gives me the Piss shivers.”

“I just want to express my appreciation that you guys feel comfortable enough with this group to be able to ask these kinds of questions. I also appreciate your ability to frankly convey detailed information about these very personal experiences.

Thank you for sharing.”

“Dude, if ya'll have any sense you'll stop looking for answers right now and just tell everyone that it is due to all the blood rushing from you head to you "head".”

“Perhaps it's just because you get up so quickly when you have a full bladder. Your blood pressure is lower when you're sleeping and maybe you're getting up too fast on those occasions when you've really got to go. Try getting up more slowly.”

“Use trekking poles for support.”

“"Try getting up more slowly."
skullcap
08:17:46 AM
01/29/02

You jest! When one has to go, one has to go! Do as I sometimes do in a tent. Keep an empty milk or juice bottle handy. Then you don't even have to get up. And when on the trail,you'll really appreciate it on some of those cold and rainy occassions.”

“I guess some of us have bladders of steel? Personally, I find that it's a very good idea to move slower with a very full bladder. Prevents surprises. LOL!”

“Fritz-

Stop asking for medical advice on a backpacking board and get yourself an early pregnancy test. It's obvious to me you're experiencing morning sickness.”

“I don't have a morning void but I do avoid mornings.”

“Seriously though?

There are a lot of nerve endings down around ‘Mr. Happy’ and a swollen bladder could cause pressure on them – I don’t know anything, I’m no doctor. If it were me, I’d tell my physician. Who knows, since it only started recently, it could maybe, possibly be a sign of an enlarged prostate? That’s nothing to fool around with. My father had an enlarged prostate and since they were monitoring him quite often, they detected his prostate cancer early and successfully treated him. It was a fairly aggressive cancer so it was lucky it was caught early. Why don’t you go get it checked out?”

“I have never had this experience and I do not know what causes it. If I ever do have this experience I will consult my physician.”

“According to the site posted above:
"Situational syncope is caused by a reflex of the involuntary nervous system called the vasovagal reaction. The vasovagal reaction leads the heart to slow down (bradycardia) and, at the same time, it leads the nerves to the blood vessels in the legs to permit those vessels to dilate (widen). The result is that the heart puts out less blood, the blood pressure drops, and what blood is circulating tends to go into the legs rather than to the head. The brain is then deprived of oxygen, and the fainting episode occurs."

I have this happen with my weightlifting workouts in the morning when I have not eaten before my workout. The doctor said that I completely deplete my blood source of available sugars (no I'm not diabetic). The vessels dialate to allow more blood the the major muscles and the brain gets shorted. I have not completely passed out, and now that I know how to handle it I have no problems.

I wonder if you are eating enough the night before. You go 8 to 10 hours thru the night without eating, following an exhausting previous day. You may need a snack first--or as soon as you can.

On a trip last spring I had a friend hiking with me get faint from not eating enough. We all though he was going down. I gave him a few candy bars and he was back to normal.
You don't have to be diabetic for this to occur.”

“This NYE I took a squirt, and literally lost myself in the pleasure. I was pretty close to the stage, and because I wanted to hold that spot for as long as i could, I held a P-urge till the last minute and ended up making a dart to the pisser before I burst...I made it and boy did it feel good. The wierd part about it is I must've closed my eyes and lost myself in the pleasure. I remember being in some other cosmic realm...and then I opened my eyes and I was back at the concert. Who knows how long I was standing there...prolly just for seconds. What a crazy night!”

“I’ve had this HAPPEN TO ME. What is happening is that the MEMBRANE that holds YOUR SOUL inside is stretched and YOU ARE LITERALLY pissing yourself out! There are any NUMBER OF EXERCISES that you can do to STREGTHEN this membrane. For now, just try peeing SITTING DOWN.”

“Fainting is no fun. I happen to me once. I blamed it on a "food coma".

About 40 minutes after have a filling meal and drinking about a 1/3 of a beer with some buddies at a bar it happened. I was just sitting on a bar stool talking away when I just froze solid, fell forward and face planted into the floor narrowly missing this meaty wood pedestal of a table. The next thing I kinda remember was my freinds rolling me over and calling my name as I was coming too. I was not out for long from the recounts of the matter. There was a R.N. in the house who saw the whole thing go down. They all immediately pick my limp body off the floor and place me back on the cheap bar stool. And would you know it, it almost happened again but this time I was caught. Rumor has it that if one has fainted never upright them to fast, you are to let them lay abit in order to get some bearings.

Well my evening there was through. So after getting my bearings and see my beautiful strawberry developing on my forehead and a brief gut renching excercise that emptied my stomach, we all made a b-line for the E.R.

They ran some test there and shipped me home after awhile. Later that week I wore a recorder that monitored pulse rates from different parts of the body. I guess that tape was read by an expert because I was given a clean bill of health. I'm still worried, I have never experiences anything as freaky as that.”

“Someone slipped Briar Rabbit a 'Mickey Finn' or 'Roofies' in modern parlance.”

“Fritz,
Check your heart rate when this happens. It could be a clue. Mine will drop from 130 to 50 in just a matter of a few seconds. My blood pressure will also drop dramatically low (I think it was something like 60 over 29).”

“BS, I have gotten dizzy during weight lifting when I let my heart rate stay too elevated for too long. I understood it was because I had used all my available blood sugar. I have to watch my heart rate and slow down sometime. I recover after a short rest. I always thought of this was called bonking. This isn't the same as geting dizzy when you take a leak.

This never happened when I was younger so I guess we need to take it easy as we get older.”

“I almost pissed on myself reading this thread!!!
Funny stuff here!”

“bacpac,
I use to wear a heartrate monitor when I worked out to keep from "bonking". Now I just eat something before workout and have no problems at all. I've had this problem since I was a teenager (27 years ago).”

“So, um.. bacpac and BS, it sounds like I should wear a heart rate monitor when I pee in the morning???

;-)”

“Fritz.. , ..you could try squatting like women do...:) then at least if you did faint, you would be closer to the ground............
..... take some comfort in that i recently re-certified in CPR when you do your morning voiding down here at ONF this weekend

oh yeah, and if you bring a pee bottle like nowslimmer suggested....should i include an absorbent sleeping pad
with the tent i am bringing for you to use in case you spill it?
jest jesting~~~~~~~~~~~~
i have had many laughs reading this thread.....

marvin gardens.. and buddur.........that is some very deep sharing of insight........funny too!

and all this time i thought guys had it so easy in the voiding department!!”

“Most heart attacks in India occur during the morning bowel voiding session, as not many have the luxury of a sit down lou (toilet) the extra pressure caused by backing one out at the same time as squatting makes their tickers pop.”

“LOL Bunyip, now THAT was definitely TMI!”

“bunyip...i once heard that is how elvis died....”

“om, you don't really BELIEVE that, do you?













...that Elvis died???”

“worldonline


Medic takes a stand for squatting urinaters


[India, November 25] - An Indian medical scholar is defending the honour of his countrymen when it comes to urination: he says the traditional method of squatting is healthier than the Western inclination to stand.
Men who find it more refined to stand at a Western-style urinal than to join the masses squatting on the street are more likely to faint, according to Ambar Chakravorty, a nerve expert at the Vivekananda Institute of Medical Sciences in Calcutta.

"During urination, the blood in the body has the tendency to flow downwards and that is why those urinating while sitting usually prevent blood shortage to the brain," he said. His study of "urination methodology" was presented to a neurology conference in the eastern city of Patna on Saturday.

Chakravorty urged modernists, who prefer to stand up, to observe what happened to them.

"Many men have complained of darkness ahead of the eyes while urinating and dizziness. This is because blood vessels are not reaching the brain. They should adopt urinating in sitting mode," he said.

Chakravorty said that fainting after urination - known to medical practitioners as micturition syncope - was not found in women; they don't have the option that "most men enjoy".”

“i can picture all the guys squatting during a hike....”

“Nah... Just Fritz.”

“From the Merck Manual:

Patients with cough syncope usually have pulmonary disease, and those with micturition syncope have associated prostatic hypertrophy.

Link to the entire section on syncope.

Guys, it's still safe to stand and pee.”

“I thought For Sure this thread was a tie-in to Kevlar Underpants.”

“Hey, I liked that blaze orange toilet paper idea... whose was that? <G>”

“I don't know if this is going to get me in trouble, but pi$$ing in the morning is the best feeling ever. I thought about it at length and come to that conclusion.”

“Yes. You're in trouble now. lol....”

“For most of us it's the second best feeling newgie!”

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“Newgirl, you're funny! I'm just picturing......never mind.

Violin--just shut up, wouldja?

;-)”

“Hey - you asked!”

“Geo, you're right, "for most people." I'm not one of the "most people." I'll take a good pi$$ over the other any day. Much less complicated, the way I see it.”

“Newgirl, what exactly is "the other" -- I am guessing you refer to the intense pleasure of a good sneeze?”

“Yep, Fritz, the extreme sneeze is what I like to call it. LOL!”

“In Basic Training we were told that the first pee after the gas chamber would feel like an orgasm the whole time... I don't know if it was the hyping... but it didn't”

“wow, how did I miss this thread?”