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Take this short test, courtesy of MEC, to calculate your personal ecological footprint.
May be of dubious value, but still fun and revealing.
kleetn
1:27:50 PM
3/04/02

What was your result, Kleetn? I'm sucking up the Earth's resources a little faster than I should be. My total was 21.52. It says we would need six Earths to support everyone in the manner that I live.
Dunadan
1:39:03 PM
3/04/02

32.34
Prowler
1:49:47 PM
3/04/02

22.82
Chief
1:54:15 PM
3/04/02

My footprint was 19.33 acres (76.73% of an average North American's footprint)
kleetn
1:54:29 PM
3/04/02

20.15 which means it would take 5.53 earths to support everybody at my level of usage. Of course, it doesn't ask about consumption of goods or recycling habits.
skullcap
1:55:51 PM
3/04/02

By the way, Big K, thanks for posting that.
I would like to know why they didn't ask about recycling. I compost all of my food waste, and we recycle more material than we throw away. I know that my housing and my transportation increased my score. I rely on a truck for my profession, but we walk most places when we are not working.
I'll keep honing it down.
Dunadan
1:59:16 PM
3/04/02

20.83
I'm a pig. Oink.
icepak
2:03:40 PM
3/04/02

Mine's 18.3. We don't eat much processed stuff. I live 3 miles from work and bike when it's nice. My wife is only a mile from her office. Our house isn't huge. But, in general...

Montana is a real hog when it comes to consumption per capita. Everything is really spread out, little public transportation, it's cold, windy and people eat a lot of beef and little fresh fruit and vegetables. We get more dollars back per dollar paid in federal taxes than most states (like $3-4/ every dollar paid) in the form of highway dollars, agriculture subsidies, federal jobs and services, etc.
So much for the rugged, western independence myth.
aero
2:19:23 PM
3/04/02

9.16..........I must be a good communist!
Tom Terrific
2:19:57 PM
3/04/02

Wow, nice lifestyle, Tom. What's your secret?
Dunadan
2:22:46 PM
3/04/02

He lives in a collective!
kleetn
2:27:25 PM
3/04/02

It doesn't ask about your contribution to population growth, either.
skullcap
2:31:53 PM
3/04/02

I could get hurt on that one, Skully.
Dunadan
2:47:37 PM
3/04/02

14.25 for me. I did good on the food section since I don't eat animal products, but I think the low mpg of my minivan brought my total down.
richb
3:01:08 PM
3/04/02

21.01 acres.

Of course, everyone knows this is all rehashed communism.
Violin
3:01:25 PM
3/04/02

It's me--I'm killing us. 44.88.
I drive 50 miles a day in a gas guzzling pickup (mandatory in South Alabama), and I fly all over the place doing the work-thing. I like cheeseburgers.

Sorry.
gearjunkie
3:07:05 PM
3/04/02

16.77 acres here. My transportation section was bad, I drive about 500 miles a wk. MT needs a public trans. system. I agree w/ Dunadan though, it didn't ask any questions about recycling habits or other types of consumption. Thanks Kleetn, it was pretty interesting.
newgirl
3:26:35 PM
3/04/02

Food Footprint 5.91 acres
Transportation Footprint 0.93 acres
Housing Footprint 5.88 acres
Other Footprint 4.69 acres


YOUR TOTAL FOOTPRINT is 17.41 acres

4.7 earths for me. There is just a wee bit of error in this though (hint at the sarcasm). I really don't think I require 5.9 acres for food and I'm pretty sure that if I did, other's would be on that same 5.9 acres. The lesson, meat is more dense then corn, thus more cows per acre then corn per acre. Eat meat, save the world.
deathmarch99
3:38:22 PM
3/04/02

Deathmarch, what's w/ the huge housing footprint? Don't you live in a dorm?
newgirl
3:41:03 PM
3/04/02

Yeah, acre per cow west of Kansas is about 40. Eat more beef, and keep the subsidies coming to those western ranchers. They deserve it.
How's my sarcasm footprint?
Dunadan
4:01:27 PM
3/04/02

I am relieved to find out this test is slanted against people from LA (Lower Alabama). When I took this thing and found out I had a 46.89 acre footprint, I figured that it was just me. But when I found out GearJunkie scored almost as high, it was obvious that this test is discriminatory.
chili36
4:05:20 PM
3/04/02

I just need my own planet.
Tilt
4:07:57 PM
3/04/02

Are you the "Little Prince", Tilt?
Dunadan
4:09:41 PM
3/04/02

Chili,
They don't like lawyers!

We're so misunderstood. All you do is give, give, give, and what do they do? They slap you with an acreage footprint in the mid-40s.

No justice, no peace.
gearjunkie
4:32:27 PM
3/04/02

This test is ridiculously biased. I just retook it, answering in the most "green" fashion imaginable, including having 8 people living in the smallest-sized house, and I still came out with a 4.3 acre score. The test states it would still take 1.19 earths to support everyone at this "standard of living".

I must agree with Violin, that it's nothing more than redressed Communism.
bitpusher
4:41:49 PM
3/04/02

LOL @ gearjunkie. I think you are right. I mean after all, when was the last time a lawyer actually got his client all that the client thought he deserved. I remember representing a criminal defendant once and we obtained a not guilty verdict. The client was actually p!ssed that I told him I could not get the State to pay my bill.
chili36
4:47:05 PM
3/04/02

You're right bitpusher. I tried that too. Gave all the 'green answers' and had 12 people in a 484 sq ft house and it still requires 1.16 Earths to support each member of the present human population at that standard of living (and that's only allowing 33% of the biosphere to be set aside for other species).

I guess we're doomed!
Violin
5:01:49 PM
3/04/02

These people have replaced religion with secular environmentalism. Some of them worship the earth goddess Gaia. Their gatherings take on the air of religious revival meetings.

There are two groups of people that have made environmentalism their new home: socialists and enviro-religious fanatics. With the collapse of Marxism, environmentalism has become the new refuge of socialist thinking. And the second group are the people who believe it is a religion; that God is the earth and that God is nothing more than the earth. Actually, it is a modern form of pantheism, where nature is divine. This group wants to preserve the earth at all costs. They want to roll us back, maybe not to the Stone Age, but at least to the horse-and-buggy era.
bird2tiny
5:07:50 PM
3/04/02

Yes, St. Exupery would be proud,

Nah... more like 'Isembard Prince,' haha.
Tilt
5:09:28 PM
3/04/02

The Earth’s ecosystem is not fragile, and humans are not capable of destroying it.
bird2tiny
5:09:47 PM
3/04/02

By golly I think you've got it!
We ARE doomed.
wolfsister
5:09:57 PM
3/04/02

The real enemies of the radical environmental leadership are capitalism & the American way of life.
bird2tiny
5:10:36 PM
3/04/02

Despite the hysterics of a few pseudo-scientists, there is no reason to believe any of this.
bird2tiny
5:13:54 PM
3/04/02

My 4th grade teacher (Mrs. Villavaso) told me the earth was going to melt down when the sun exploded in a fusion reaction in 1984.
Public school was fun...
gearjunkie
5:15:41 PM
3/04/02

I've read some stuff about old-line environmentalists bemoaning the takeover of the environmentalist movement by individuals who see environmentalism as a means to press their social agenda. Many of the new "environmentalists" are not that concerned with the human impact on the environment, or whether it will be around for future generations to enjoy. They are simply using the heightened awareness of man's impact on the earth to scare people into accepting socialism as the only way to ensure man's future. It's extremely ironic, given that the two largest Socialist countries of the last century (Germany under National Socialism and Russia under Communism) managed to compile some of the worst ecological records.
bitpusher
5:16:32 PM
3/04/02

Organization's coffers have been filled, personal fortunes have been made, individual fame has been achieved, a variety of agendas have been or are in the process of being fulfilled. and over $100 billion a year is being spent, all in the name of making the country a safer, better place in which to live, or, to use the more recent expression, of 'saving the earth.' Yet there is little evidence that the country is much, if at all, safer as a result of the environmental crusades of the past decade and a half.
bird2tiny
5:17:00 PM
3/04/02

I believe that to an important extent the hatred of man and distrust of reason displayed by the environmental movement is a psychological projection of many contemporary intellectual's self-hatred and distrust of their minds arising as the result of their responsible for the destruction wrought by socialism.
bird2tiny
5:18:32 PM
3/04/02

In my judgment, the "green" movement of the environmentalists is merely the old "red" movement of the communists and socialists shorn of its veneer of science. The greens, I think, may be cut below the reds, if that is possible.
bird2tiny
5:19:52 PM
3/04/02

Bird2tiny, you sound kind of hysterical. Maybe you should breath into a 30% minimum post consumer waste content paper bag for a minute or two.
skullcap
5:25:51 PM
3/04/02

bird2tiny's brain leaves a very small intellectual footprint.
steve hiker
5:25:54 PM
3/04/02

The goals of the environmental movement are that of attaining power and domination over the world populace with the proclamation of impending environmental consequences and calamities as some dark future that only they and their values can save us from.
bird2tiny
5:28:16 PM
3/04/02

Yo, stevehiker, which one of us is Pinky and which one is The Brain?
skullcap
5:29:14 PM
3/04/02

The “Big Four” environmental lies:

• Natural resources are running out.

• The population is ever growing, leaving less and less to eat.

• Species are becoming extinct in vast numbers: forests are disappearing and fish stocks are collapsing.

• The planet's air and water are becoming ever more polluted.
bird2tiny
5:31:16 PM
3/04/02

LMAO @ bird2tiny! Not the white bags, the dioxin fumes will damage your brain!
skullcap
5:31:47 PM
3/04/02

Environmentalists Creed:
Always look on the dark side of life.
bird2tiny
5:33:43 PM
3/04/02

bird2tiny, I believe you've been caught plagarizing from George G. Reisman's book, "The Toxicity of Environmentalism", page 836.
kleetn
5:34:51 PM
3/04/02

25.51 acres. Got slammed most for my driving I guess.
steve hiker
5:37:12 PM
3/04/02

And YHBT.
bird2tiny
5:38:12 PM
3/04/02

Yeah steve hiker, that's what got me too.
skullcap
5:48:07 PM
3/04/02

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