Personal ecological footprint

“33.24...damn commute, yet another reason to hate it.”

“12.82 acres. I have a small house with energy saving appliances etc., but it will still take 3.52 earths to sustain everyone that lived like me.”

“35.17 gets me third place...woohooo!!!”

“12.3
it would be lower if somebody would buy my cherokee already-i rarely drive- maybe 50 miles a month in the city and only drive distance for bp trips etc.
I dont drink milk or eat red meat but eat fish or chicken daily.”

“Lets all commit mass suicide and do the earth a favor...Hopefully the blood from our rotting bodies will filter into the earth and renew the soil that we have soiled...I'm so evil”

“human blood into the earth's soil translates to a 58.3 reading...shame on you!”

“Yes, but the tulips would love him.”

“20.80.

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“I could live comfortably off of the 33+ acres I need.

3 acre pond
5 acres for a garden
2 acres for buildings
23 all purpose acres”

“67.75 footprint
18.61 Earths

I live in a huge bachelor pad townhouse..drive 300+ miles a day in a SUV...Fly monthly on business
Sometimes eat meat only meals *grin*”

“COOL!!

170.6 acres!

Do I win?”

“OK, bird2tiny, you are hereby awarded the "Stupidest Poster of 2002" award.
I've got some wells I would like you to drink out of and some rivers I would like you to swim in and some fish I would like you to eat.
You don't have the brains God gave a screwdriver.”

“argh..went and tweeked my answers a lil closer to the truer side..and came up with 108.08 acres..and 29.69 earths...

gordon do you fly alot, and weigh 500lbs?...lmao”

“13.33 acres. It would be much better if I didn't have to drive to the next town to work.

An interesting survey. It gives me lots of ideas on where to improve.

Thanks for the link.”

“The entire population of America lives on just over three percent of the nation's land mass. Most of the population lives within fifty miles of either the East or West coast. What some call "urban sprawl" is just people exercising the right to move out of congested cities and live where most of the rest of the population prefers. Elsewhere, while the earth's population is currently projected to be six billion, there is ample room for humanity. People tend to crowd into urban centers, seeking employment, creating a multitude of health and social problems. The earth currently provides everyone with at least 4.3 pounds of food daily, but not everyone receives their share often due to conditions involving conflicts (wars) and/or starvation policies in authoritarian states. As more nations begin to enjoy the prosperity and living standards of the US and European nations, their populations will decrease.”

“Most estimates place the maximum possible population of humans at around 30 - 50 billion with current technology. I've seen higher figures, but that assumes technologies not yet in existence, but will exist by the time the population reach the higher number.

Still, at 30-50 billion, all humans will live in high density housing, all possible arable land is devoted to food and fiber production, and all non-arable land devoted to manufacturing or industry. Open space and wilderness as we currently know it will not exist.

Pleasant thought, isn't it?”

“Wilderness is a waste of space on a finite planet. When I see a field or a forest, I think "What a lovely place for a housing development."”

“No you don't.”

“Thanks to government controls, there are signs that nature is gaining the upper hand over man in the great biological struggle that we have been fighting since we parted company with the apes.”

“If a person held environmental views privately, there would be no downside. Like a person who is against all things electric and gas, and so burns candles for light and eschews driving. He eats only non-perishables or things he grows. He would rather die than be hooked up to a respirator. Good riddance.”

“But that’s not the way these people work. They want to force all the rest of us to adopt their sense of things, and the fastest way to do that is through the state. Egged on by fanatics, the legislature passes a bill that empowers a bureaucracy, which is protected by the courts.”

“This is the price we pay for having given in to the fundamental premise that nature has any rights at all, much less rights that are superior to man’s. We only have to imagine what our forefathers would have done, confronting the vast wilderness in the New World, if they had to deal with the EPA. There would have been no development. In fact, the small population would have been wiped out.

What used to be called "the battle against the elements" must be renewed in every generation. Mankind must be ever-diligent in its attempts to control or kill the sharks, the mosquitoes, and any other animal that threatens our well-being.”

“I actually took it for when I live at home since I don't plan on living in a dorm all my life.”

“It's a beautiful day. I'm going for a walk.”

“bird2tiny = MARVIN GARDENS ???”

“Controlling nature, beating it back, is disease control by another name.”

“The idea of nature's intrinsic value inexorably implies a desire to destroy man and his works because it logically implies hatred for man and his achievements.”

“To establish a public office, such as that recently proposed in California, of "environmental advocate," would be tantamount to establishing an office of “Negator of Human Value”.”

“In virtually every case, the claims made by the environmentalists have turned out to be false or simply absurd.”

“The reason that one after another of the environmentalists' claims turn out to be proven wrong is that they are made without any regard for truth in the first place.”

“I love regulation,bureaucracy and the 'clean air' i can breath cuz of it...”

“It is important to realize that when the environmentalists talk about destruction of the "environment" as the result of economic activity, their claims are permeated by the doctrine of intrinsic value. Thus, what they actually mean to a very great extent is merely the destruction of alleged intrinsic values in nature such as jungles, deserts, rock formations, and animal species which are either of no value to man or hostile to man. That is their concept of the "environment".”

“The entire world physically consists of nothing but chemical elements. These elements are never
destroyed. They simply reappear in different combinations, in different proportions, in different places. Apart from what has been lost in a few rockets, the quantity of every chemical element in the world today is the same as it was before the Industrial Revolution.

The only difference is that, because of the Industrial Revolution, instead of lying dormant, out of man's control, the chemical elements have been moved about as never before, in such a way as to improve human life and well-being.”

“bird2tiny = spock”

“I just retook the test using the best possible answers. It still says it takes 1.1 earths to support me.

The test is biased and has a built in bias against humans.

I hope no one is taking this claptrap seriously.”

“The American people must be made aware of what environmentalism actually stands for and of what they stand to lose, and have already lost, as the result of its growing influence. They must be made aware of the environmental movement's responsibility for the energy crisis and the accompanying high price of oil and oil products, which is the result of its systematic and highly successful campaign against additional energy supplies. They must be made aware of its responsibility for the vastly increased wealth, power, and influence of terrorist governments in the Middle East, stemming from the high price of oil it has caused, and for the resulting need to fight a war in the region.”

“I took the test for my dogs; two labs, Jessie and Space (yes, Space Lab) 75 and 110 lbs., who live outside all year. They sleep in a unheated shed and eat the same, dry dog food day after day. They always share rides, never fly and never throw out any food. In fact, they eat stuff other people throw out! On the negative side, they don't use public transportation and only two of them live in the shed.

Their score: 6.44 acres

That's pretty close, too. Judging from the amount of dog cr@p in the yard (0.5 acres) they could use another 6.”

“chili -- not spock. b2t is smarter, even if it is all plagiarized.

I was thinking...Violin!”

“Here, bird2tiny, I've saved you the trouble of cutting and pasting any more paragraphs from The Toxicity of Environmentalism by George Reisman. Give it up, moron. Got any original thoughts?

The American people must be made aware of how the environmental movement has steadily made life more difficult for them. They must be shown how, as the result of its existence, people have been prevented from taking one necessary and relatively simple action after another, such as building power plants and roads, extending airport runways, and even establishing new garbage dumps. They must be shown how the history of the environmental movement is a history of destruction: of the atomic power industry, of the Johns Manville Company, of cranberry growers and apple growers, of sawmills and logging companies, of paper mills, of metal smelters, of coal mines, of steel mills, of tuna fishermen, of oil fields and oil refineries--to name only those which come readily to mind. They must be shown how the environmental movement has been the cause of the wanton violation of private property rights and thereby of untold thousands of acres of land not being developed for the benefit of human beings, and thus of countless homes and factories not being built. They must be shown how as the result of all the necessary actions it prohibits or makes more expensive, the environmental movement has been a major cause of the marked deterioration in the conditions in which many people now must live their lives in the United States--that it is the cause of families earning less and having to pay more, and, as a result, being deprived of the ability to own their own home or even to get by at all without having to work a good deal harder than used to be necessary.”

“um, bird,

forget the meds this morning?”

“Web Rage! I love it!”

“I'd like to hug all the baby critters.”

“Say, Gordon...you're not bird2tiny are you? Your posts are quite similar. It's almost eerie.”

“Humans are okay, I guess... if only there weren't so damn many of 'em...”

“I hit about 18. The driving stats were the biggest problem. Ironic that rural folks have the hardest problem getting around that part of the score. No public transport, dispersed population, no choice but to drive most places.

As hunter-gatherers, it probably took a lot of acres to support nomadic prehistoric humans. They would probably skew their score because of the wild meat in their diets.

About two days after arriving in China, a fellow at the university where I taught asked me what my impression of China was (I wasn't even over jet lag yet, so the pause while attempting a cordial answer was noticeable). As I hemmed and hawed, he leaned closer and said with a sly grin, "Too many people, huh?"”

“The test is not a pure reflection of your real environmental footprint, but I think it is a worthwhile exercise. There would be no way to make a perfect test.
I am considering becoming a devotee of bird2tiny and renouncing MarvinGardens. Do you think this would be a good move?”

“bird2tiny for President!”

“Absolutely Dunadan, after all, Marvin goes off the deep end in regard to inter-stellar issues....on the other hand, bird brain,,,,,umm, bird2tiny, at least sticks to issues present here on planet earth”

“Chili. Thanks, that was kinda what I was thinking. Plus, I've got some used motor oil that I would love to just dump on the ground, (in someone else's yard), instead of taking it to the recycling station. With brain2tiny, I would be totally absolved of any environmental consequences.
With Marvin, I have to wait for "harvest" time/”

“bird2tiny is my BASTARD HALF-BROTHER!”