Illuminati: One world government?

“I have heard legends about an organization of extremely wealthy men who supposebly are in charge of a "one-world government." They are also supposebly satanic and stuff. They also supposebly hide a lot of hidden messages and stuff. Does anyone know anything more about this?”

“My supervisor estimates he will be Ruler of the World in 6.3 years. Is that the same thing?”

“Lawyers already rule the world. All the wannabees need to get in line.”

“The Illuminati are the DESCENDANTS OF REPTILIAN ALIENS who messed with human DNA and created the Illuminati to RULE THE WORLD. All rulers in the world today are directly related, KEEPING THE BLOODLINE PURE for these reptilians to continue in control. They shape-shift, and if you catch them at the right moment, you can see them change into reptiles and QUICKLY CHANGE BACK into their human form.”

“You asked...”

“Don’t be fnordsilly. Everyone fnordknows it’s impossiblefnord to hide fnordhidden messagesfnord.”

“My mom introduced me to this and I sort of expanded and researched it myself. My history teacher said that while all of it might not be true, there is definatly something to it. He wouldn't specify, though. They aren't aloud to specifically say anything about it.

I truely beleive they exist. My mom beleives they are real too. In fact, I beleive the whole “War on Terrorism” thing and what started it etc, etc, is their work.”

“The leader of the group is a mysterious guy they call Sasquatch.”

“"supposebly"???
Is that Hillbonics?

Illuminati-
Capitalists(those who control the capital) who have elevated themselves to positions of great control.”

“Is it time to burn the owl yet?”

“They all fly in black helicopters from their secret headquarters in Area 51.”

“But there is one really rich man that controls the world through controlling all the computers in the world.

His name is Bill Gates!”

“The Illuminatti are a **myth**.

“The Loyal Order Of Water Buffalo?”

“BTW: "Proofs of Conspiracy" the classic "expose" on the Illuminatti has been proven to be a bunch of paranoid bunk. See, for example:

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/Writings/robison-barruel.html”

“Whatcha and his Mom should know, cuzz he is the grandson of the grand spymaster Illya Kuryakin.”

“'Possum Lodge?”

“If the women don't find you handsome, at least they should find you handy.”

“Get real kleety, it was a woman who dreamed up this Illuminati bunk.”

“Those people are in there own little world=freemasons.

Scary!!!!

8o”

“I suggest you read "Proofs of a Conspiracy" and judge for yourself. You can find reprints of it lots of places. It was written in 1789 by Robison I believe.

A refutation by freemasonry is not any big surprise since the book has them involved with the conspiracy. Naturally they would want to refute that.”

“I found this to be intriguing: a CIA website which argues that a Soviet disinformation campaign was responsible for many of the conspiracy theories about JFK's assassination:

http://www.cia.gov/csi/studies/fall_winter_2001/article02.html”

“and to think I was just making silly comments... Whatcha is right about the Osama connection:

The Illuminati Exposed
Mysterious Beginnings
(1) Islamic Parallels

"Sufi historian Indries Shah traces the name of the Illuminati back to a verse in the Koran which mentions a shining star..."
- Robert Anton Wilson, Cosmic Trigger

"The sixteenth century saw the rise of a powerful society based upon a secret cult, in the mountains of Afghanistan - the Roshaniya, Illuminated ones."
"The earliest figure named in the history of the cult is one Bayezid Ansari, of Afghanistan, whose family claimed descent from the Ansar - the 'Helpers', who assisted Mohammed after his flight from Mecca nearly fourteen hundred years ago. As a reward for this service, he stated, his ancestors had been granted initiation into the mysteries of the Ishmaelite religion: the secret, inner training which dated from Abraham's rebuilding of the Temple at Mecca, the mystical Hiram."
"Not far from Peshawar, which is now in the north-west of Pakistan, Bayezid set up a small school, where he carefully coached those who had been initiated by him in the knowledge of the supernatural that he claimed. A period of probation was expected from each candidate, during which he would to into periods of concealment or meditation, known as khilwat - silence. During this time he was to receive the illumination which was emanated from the supreme being, who desired a class of perfect men- and women- to carry out the organization and direction of the world."

Merchants and soldiers "contributed lavishly to the chief's upkeep and his most expensive military, political and espionage system." At this stage of success, Bayezid now preached that there was "no after-life of the kind currently believed in: no reward or punishment, only a spirit state which was completely different from earthly life. The spirits, if they belonged to the Order, could continue to enjoy themselves and be earthly powers, acting through living members....Eat, drink and be merry. Gain power, look after yourself. You have no allegiance except to the Order, he told them: and all humanity which cannot identify itself by our secret sign is our lawful prey."

Forty years after the last religio-military leader of the Afghan Illuminate Ones died, a society of the same name (the Illuminati) came into being in Germany, formed, it is said, by Adam Weishaupt, the young professor of Canon Law at Ingolstadt University. Coincidences of date and beliefs connect these Bavarian Illuminati with the Afghan ones, and also with other cults which called themselves 'Illuminated'."
- Arkon Daraul, Secret Societies

Someone has pointed out that in Mary Shelly's novel Frankenstein, Victor Frankenstein was also in Ingoldstatdt around 1790 creating his famous monster. "Coincidence...or was there something Mary Shelly was trying to tell us?"”

“Mary Shelley wrote 'Frankenstein' as a short story as a way to pass a rainy day. She was 17 at the time.”

“Geeez Gordon, you trying ta say 17 year olds don't know nuthin?

Pretty soon you are gonna try ta tell me that "Thrush ain't real..." & "Whatcha ain't descended from Ilya Kuryakin!" & that "reading between the lines is just a matter of subjectifve interpretation."”

“It amazes me how much BS has been printed about the Illuminati. It WAS a real secret society in the 1700's (ya know, the Enlightenment) and was a free thought society. During the enlightenment "Secret Societies" were all the rage and everyone who fancied themselves as an intellectual just had to be a part of one. All the world domination claptrap seems to lately stem from a game by Steve Jackson games that has been out for a very long time.

The Illuminati
The Order of the Illuminati, a secret society whose name means "Enlightened Ones," was founded in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt (1748-1830), a former Jesuit and professor of canon law at the University of Ingolstadt.
Specific knowledge about the society is scarce. The Order of the Illuminati was established with some unspecified ties to the Masonic lodges of Germany; as a secret society within a secret society, the Illuminati have produced at least as many myths as verifiable facts. The sympathies and beliefes of Weishaupt himself, for instance, have been claimed by countless groups -- atheists, Cabalists, rationalists, democrats, socialists, anarchists. Some trace the Illuminati back to the Knights Templar, to Gnostic cults, to ancient Egypt, and even to Atlantis. In the 1790s, some credited (or blamed) the society with manipulating the American and French Revolutions. In the United States, Federalists encouraged people to believe Thomas Jefferson and the Democratic Republican Party were controlled by the Illuminati in Europe.

It is not strictly necessary to disentangle fact from fiction, since the influence of the Order was greater in legend than in fact. But several things can be stated about the Illuminati with some degree of certainty. The two central figures in the organization were Weishaupt and Adolph Franz Friedrich Ludwid Baron Von Knigge. The members of the Illuminati are known to have favored free-thinking and radical politics, and were often alleged to have ties with Jacobins (Weishaupt and the Illuminati are discussed in Abbé Barruel's History of Jacobinism, which Mary Shelley is known to have read in October 1814). The Order promoted a belief in deism and a doctrine of spiritual perfection: the society was in fact first known as the Order of Perfectibilists.

At their height, the Illuminati claimed over two thousand members, not only in Germany but in France, Belgium, Holland, Denamrk, Sweden, Poland, Hungary, and Italy, including Goethe, Herder, and many other prominent nobles and reformers. But the Bavarian government cracked down on the Illuminati and other secret societies in 1784 for allegedly plotting a massive overthrow of Europe's monarchies, although it was unable to squelch them entirely. By the end of the eighteenth century, however, the Illuminati had effectively disbanded, although legends of their continued existence (and influence) persist into the twentieth century (among, for instance, members of the John Birch Society). Perhaps some of this confusion is owing to the fact that over time, the word illuminati came to be used more expansively for many enthusiasts of Enlightenment, including the followers of Emmanuel Swedenborg.

Adam Weishaupt
Adam Weishaupt, 1748-1811, founder of the Order of the Illuminati.
Weishaupt was born and raised in Ingolstadt, where he studied law and attained the rank of Professor of Canon Law in 1772. Though educated by Jesuits and for a time a member of their order, he broke with them and became increasingly liberal in his religious and political views, favoring deism and republicanism. His interests were widespread, including an early fascination with aeronautics.

With the help of, and occasional fiction with, Bron von Knigge, Weishaupt in 1776 formed the Order of Perfectibilists, which later became known as the Illuminati. Although the Order was founded to provide an opportunity for the free exchange of ideas, Weishaupt's background as a Jesuit seems to have influenced the actual characer of the society, which was determined by an elaborate network of spies and counter-spies.

A year after the society was banned by Bavaria's government in 1784, Weishaupt lost his position at the University of Ingolstadt and fled Bavaria. He received the assistance of Duke Ernest of Gotha, and during the next quarter century lived in Gotha writing a series of works on Illuminism, including A Complete History of the Persecutions of the Illuminati in Bavaria (1785), A Picture of Illuminism (1786), An Apology for the Illuminati (1786), and An Improved System of Illuminism (1787). He died there in 1811.”

“another link

Learn to use a search engine and ignore personal sites when looking for mythic or possibly mythic subjects.”

“LOL <@ pedxing>”

“Old news. Yale's influence has been long-standing. You and I should have completed our doctorates on the east coast!?”

“You got the CBS...!
And the ABC...!
You got Time and Newsweek!
Well, they're the same to me!

Now don't you wanna get right with me?
(Puzzling Evidence)
I hope you get ev'rything you need
(Puzzling Evidence)

Puzzling Evidence
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Done hardened in your heart
Hardened in your heart.
... Alright!
Now I am the gun
And you are the bullet
I got the power and glory!
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And the money to buy it!
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Got your Gulf and Western and your MasterCard
(Puzzling Evidence)
Got what you wanted, lost what you had
(Puzzling Evidence)
I'm seeing
Puzzling Evidence
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Done hardened in your heart
It's hardened up your heart.
... alright!

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Sometimes I'm puzzling! (Huh!)

See the little children! (Puzzlin')
And the family! (Puzzlin')
Gonna live together! (Puzzlin')
Take them home with me! (Puzzlin')

Well I hope you're happy with what you've made
(Puzzling Evidence)
In the land of the free and the home of the brave
(Puzzling Evidence)

I'm seeing
Puzzling Evidence
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Puzzling (sometimes) evidence
Done hardened in your heart
Hardened in your heart

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True Stories (1986)”

“Phil, that article was great, thanks for posting the link. Looks like the book would be a VERY interesting read.”

“Stumprider - LOL. I read "Proofs of a Conspiracy" when I was in high school in the sixties. Big news on TV today!

Fifteen copies of my dissertation waiting for binding (Christmas gifts, ya know!).”

“I'm not sure I understand MY dissertation, you think I could understand YOURS?! LOL”

“Bilderbergers Plotting To Bushwhack Iraq!”

“I think I'm going to start my own secret society. It sounds like it'd be fun. Turning the entire world into my own personal little puppet regime has been a longstanding goal of mine.

"One nation, under Artex." Has a nice ring to it!”

“My great-great-grandfather was a Freemason. Y'all hush up now and I won't mention this thread to anyone.”

“"Begone, dull care. Midsummer sets us free!"”

“I don't know what the truth is here, but I have a hard time believing that more than 100 members of a scoiety that secret and exclusive would talk to her and that she could manage to talk to so many members without the supposed heavies finding out and coming down on her project.

Its interesting that she links S&B with the Illuminatti. I wonder what the German group the founder contacted was.

There was a huge anti-masonic backlash in the US in the early 1900s because of the murder of someone who planned on publishing the Masons' secrets and the subsequent cover-up.

I liked the reference to the Mithraic elements. The Mithraic history and traditions are fascinating.”

“NPR is going to do a story on Skull & Bones.”

“My Grand-daddy was a Mason and my daddy was in some youth affiliate (Ifn I recall correctly).”

“my grandpaws a mason. he was the grand poobah one year(worshipful master er sumpthin) he's always been a lil secretive about it...well..about the finer details of the organisation anyway. from what i have gathered , there is a strain of racism in it, and from that point i had no further interest in it. i think he picked up on the fact that i was "new school" and didn't buy into the whole racist bu!!#&%!$, which is probably why he never tried to recruit me. don't get me wrong ,i love him & he's really a pretty good hearted person, just got misled somewhere way back i guess.


i never bought into the illuminatti crap either. sorry, i gotta live to live here......SEEYA!”

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“My grandfather was a mason too. If the rest of the organization is anything like him, there's no way they could rule history.”

“I had a 2nd uncle ask me recently if I had ever given thought to coming a mason. I said I should have, those guys make a ton of money!


He about dropped dead right there...”

“According to conspiracy theory, not everyone makes it into the "inner circle", or even knows about it. Very secretive and reserved for those with an insatiable thirst for power over other people (e.g., read some of Kissinger's stuff where he talks about his own drives).

I guess you either believe it can happen or you don't...kind of like believing in Big Foot (oops, there goes another thread).”

“Well, true or not, its kinda fun to ponder and read about.

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“What kind of expert are you in world domination that you have the inside scoop of what does or doesn't exist? You are all pathetic otherwise it may be a little scary.

Wake up and smell the coffee sheeple!”

“Boy, aren't you the wet blanket.”

“The illuminati is a myth.* ”