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I don't expect neo-nutzies (TM) to understand sarcasm.
Buddha Bear
11:39:09 AM
12/06/07

The guys from Blackwater got away with it??
salebored
12:51:11 PM
12/06/07

The mall in question was also "A Gun-Free Zone" too. Those signs worked well, didn't they bubba bear?
StoveStomper
12:59:04 PM
12/06/07

HMM so we keep bantering about "what if a common citizen were armed and able to respond during one of these incidents"

the Standard libbie rant is "More people would die"....

well the Colorado Missionary Shooting...kinda gives an example...citizen (albeit former police officer) with a Gun...killer is now worm food.
XL400236
10:49:01 AM
12/11/07

Along with many possibly innocent others.
salebored
2:41:34 PM
12/11/07



A man facing a murder charge for shooting and killing a motorcyclist who he thought was stalking his daughters is now under investigation for other altercations where he may have had an itchy trigger finger, Georgia law enforcement officials have told ABC News.

"We've got a lot of phone calls from people," Oconee County Sheriff Scott Berry told ABC News. "There are other incidents where shots were fired."

Richard Gear now sits in a Georgia jail facing a murder charge after he fatally shot 21-year-old motorcyclist Bryan Andrew "B.J." Mough Monday evening in front of his home. Gear said he acted in self-defense.

Berry said that Gear's two daughters, 17 and 19, called their father as they drove home from an Athens, Ga., Target store to tell him that they had gotten into some sort of road rage dispute with Mough, who was on a motorcycle, in the store's parking lot.

Meanwhile police are looking into other incidents that may have involved Gear and gunshots. One occurred in February 2006, when Oconee deputies responded to a call at Gear's Bogart, Ga., home. The 45-year-old Gear told authorities that his mailbox had been damaged when people he did not know had pulled out of his driveway after he asked them to leave.

When authorities located the people in question, they admitted to accidentally driving over Gear's mailbox, but said it only happened because they were hurrying from the property after shots were fired at them.

Berry's office was never able to bring charges against Gear because police could not prove he fired a gun, and the witnesses would not fully cooperate in the investigation.

Detectives will re-examine that case, Berry said, as well as others.

In Monday's shooting death, Mough apparently followed the girls out of the Target lot and at some point, according to Berry, the Nissan Sentra driven by Gear's daughters made contact with the motorcycle. The girls admitted to authorities that they made obscene hand gestures at Mough during the encounter.

Mough then followed the teens to their family's home, where Berry said Gear "was waiting at the end of the driveway with a .40-caliber semiautomatic." Mough made one pass of the house and on the return pass, Berry said, Gear unloaded multiple shots at Mough, one of which struck him in the back

Gear called 911 to report to police that he had shot someone in front of his house, Berry said. Mough was transported to a local hospital, where he was declared dead. Deputies arrested Gear Monday night and charged him with murder.

Gear, who is being held without bond, told authorities he was acting in self-defense when he killed Mough. As of this morning, he had not retained legal counsel, Berry said. He has no prior criminal record. he added. The phone number at Gear's Bogart address is no longer working.

A team of deputies will try to reconstruct the alleged accident in the hope that they might determine whether it was the teenage daughters or the motorcyclist that initiated the contact. Berry said it's unlikely, however, that a moving bike would go after a car. "It would be unusual for a motorcycle to ram a four wheel vehicle," he said.

As for Gear's self-defense claims, Berry also said he had doubts about that.

"I don't know how you can legally shoot someone in the back on a motorcycle," Berry said, "and then claim he was was trying to run you down."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=4360048&page=1
Reverend Truth V Wicked
9:04:24 AM
2/29/08

What's happened with the guy in Texas who shot the two guys in the back on his lawn?
Y2
9:10:13 AM
2/29/08

That guy just looks like a GA redneck. If he was out waiting for the guy, that is premeditated murder. Lock 'em up!
roseymonster
9:14:15 AM
2/29/08

Shot someone in the back in self-defense? I'm thinking that's a biiiiiit of a stretch.
Nonconformist
9:17:44 AM
2/29/08

Should have dragged the body inside the house
Wounded Knee
9:22:05 AM
2/29/08

You're sure he doesn't look like a California redneck -----
Tilt
9:30:19 AM
2/29/08

This happen five miles down the road. Guy had no lawful reason to shoot the kid. I can't say anything else about it.
minish223
9:32:04 AM
2/29/08

Mough then followed the teens to their family's home, where Berry said Gear "was waiting at the end of the driveway with a .40-caliber semiautomatic." Mough made one pass of the house and on the return pass, Berry said, Gear unloaded multiple shots at Mough, one of which struck him in the back.

Guy's a good shot especially if he hit him while he was moving. Guessing he had some serious high scores on Duck Hunt.
Wounded Knee
9:33:08 AM
2/29/08

I removed my comment. After living in the South for 20 years, let's just say there is a certain "look" to some Southerners and leave it at that.
last edited: 2/29/08 9:46:21 AM
roseymonster
9:38:39 AM
2/29/08

You should probably quit while you're behind.
Tilt
9:51:08 AM
2/29/08

In his books Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America and Targeting Guns, Professor Kleck of Florida State reports that firearms are used defensively 2.5 millions times per year, dwarfing offensive uses by criminals. Kleck says that 25 to 75 lives are saved by guns for every life lost by a gun. The medical costs saved by the defensive use of guns are 15 times greater than the costs caused by criminal use of firearms, according to Kleck.
prosecutor
9:59:31 AM
2/29/08

Hey where does it say he was a member of the NRA? How do we know he wasn't an aspring columnist for the Washington Post? (LOL)

I agree with minish...hook him up. Hey the guy on the motorcycle.
1. Did not have a weapon
2. Showed no intention to USE a weapon
3. Therefore had no ability to use the weapon which he did NOT have

The sad thing is the guy may have been following the girls until Law Enforcement showed up about the altercation.
XL400236
10:03:54 AM
2/29/08

Consider it dropped, Tilt.
roseymonster
10:08:46 AM
2/29/08

I don't know how you can use that article to establish what happened. There is conflicting information within the article.
bacpac
10:12:17 AM
2/29/08

V assumes anybody that uses a gun must be NRA. Actually, I'm pretty sure this guy is a GA democrat. Probably an Obama supporter. But maybe a Clinton supporter.

My theory is just as valid as V's.
NoProb
11:17:39 AM
2/29/08

Roger Wilco ---
Tilt
11:32:01 AM
2/29/08

Where again in this story does it say anything about the NRA? I have no doubt the NRA would clearly condemn his actions.
Nigal
11:33:47 AM
2/29/08

Kinda typical isn't it? V comes in drops his turd then when someone calls him on it, you don't hear from him again. He'll be back though. Not to defend it, just to call someone a name.
NoProb
1:46:39 PM
2/29/08

Poopyhead.
Reverend Truth V Wicked
3:54:22 PM
2/29/08

Typical vileboy.
StoveStomper
5:19:26 PM
2/29/08

“Kinda typical isn't it? V comes in drops his turd then when someone calls him on it, you don't hear from him again. He'll be back though. Not to defend it, just to call someone a name.”

That's just Violin. He has a lot of bullshyt to spread in a day and he has many places to spread it out. LOL!
Nigal
10:42:51 PM
2/29/08

If vigilanteism is a crime in Texas, they'll lock his ass up for quite some time. - Tilt

Remember when good ol' boy Joe Horn in Texas shot and killed two burglars coming out of his neighbor's house?

Welp, he was cleared by a grand jury.

$10 says Tilt thinks Texans are scumbags who support vigilantes - lol
Mutt
1:59:54 PM
6/30/08

Tilt thinks anybody who doesn't share his views is a scumbag.
Nonconformist
2:46:16 PM
6/30/08

These idiots never learn
tiltTiltBLAM
3:25:39 PM
6/30/08



I stand corrected.
Nonconformist
2:49:19 PM
6/30/08

Do I see, perhaps, a tilt obsession in action? eh?
Nimblefoot
3:42:43 PM
6/30/08

Why CCW permits work.

Bank customer pulls gun on robber to stop heist at Canton Township branch
Posted by Susan Oppat | The Ann Arbor News June 17, 2008 11:13AM

Authorities say a 53-year-old Washtenaw County man who was trying to rob a Canton Township bank was thwarted by a customer who pulled a gun on him.

Canton Police said the suspect, who is expected to be arraigned Wednesday, attempted to rob a teller at the Comerica bank at 45420 Michigan Ave. at 9:06 a.m. Monday.

The teller reported the man handed her a note claiming he was wearing a bomb, and demanding money, police said. The teller hit a silent alarm and started putting $1 bills into a bag when the man demanded bundles of $50 and $100 bills, police said.

Another teller noticed the robbery, and told a long-time customer at her window that the other teller was being robbed. The customer, who has a concealed weapons permit, asked if the teller was certain and then pulled a gun on the robber.

The suspect replied, "But I have a bomb." The customer responded, "I don't care, you are not robbing this bank."

Police said the customer put the suspect in a chair and held him at gunpoint until police arrived.

Officers said the robber did not have a bomb.

Police also said the customer is not facing any charges for pulling the gun because his permit was not violated.

The case remains under investigation by both police at the FBI.
Nigal
4:08:02 PM
6/30/08

I love a happy ending.
StoveStomper
4:30:36 PM
6/30/08

I think that sort of thing is every cops worst nightmare.
Nimblefoot
5:04:22 PM
6/30/08

“I think that sort of thing is every cops worst nightmare.”

Well of course it is. Can you imagine the amount of paperwork they'd have had to do if it was a case of "good guy caps bad guy"? They would have had to work over for that. LOL!

It is a very typical example of a bad guy being bad, a good guy pulling a gun and everything is solved simply by a gun being displayed. Guns have stopped more crimes without firing a shot than we will ever know.
Nigal
6:31:20 PM
6/30/08

I'm not strident about either side of this and, although I own and use weapons, I'm wondering about the training of John Q in this particular case and cases like it. Is specific training required before a permit to carry concealed is granted?
Nimblefoot
7:03:43 PM
6/30/08

In all but a few states and even they are getting with the program because other states won't honor their permits in their states.

Something like 44 states now have a CCW program.
Nigal
7:06:37 PM
6/30/08

Okay, you now have my blessing to shoot everyone:)
Nimblefoot
7:44:12 PM
6/30/08

It is 48 states. Sorry Wisconsin and Illinois.

The Chicago cops I know would shake the hand of the citizen who took care of the bad guy. They had a saying it was better that the bad guy was carried by six than tried by 12.
prosecutor
9:14:36 PM
6/30/08

It is 48 states. Sorry Wisconsin and Illinois.

This makes it a real bltch when driving to the BWCA in Minnesota. I may just bugger these two states and take my vacation dollars through Michigan next spring.
Nigal
2:16:33 AM
7/01/08

Michigan thanks you for your patronage.
Nonconformist
3:52:27 AM
7/01/08

Wisconsin thanks you for going to Michigan;)
Nimblefoot
4:31:08 AM
7/01/08

The idiot redneck should suffer for commiting murder.... even if his fellow rednecks let him go. - Tilt

LOL
Mutt
6:07:44 AM
7/01/08

tilt never did answer that question about how many guns does he have in his home.

Wonder why?
StoveStomper
1:59:29 PM
7/01/08



It really sucks for libbies when the victim fights back.
Another happy ending.
http://www.local10.com/news/13594353/detail.html
StoveStomper
8:02:13 AM
7/02/08

A Liberal Democrat breaks into a home to "liberate" a big screen HDTV because The Man is keeping him down.

What do you do?

Republican's Answer:
BANG!

Republican Southerner's Answer:
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Click..... (Sounds of reloading)
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
BANG! Click "Dang! I'm out!"

Republican Southerner's Daughter: "Nice pattern Daddy! Were those the Silver Tips, Black Talons, or the new Hollow Points?"

Republican Southerner's Son: "Can I shoot the next one Daddy?"

Republican Southerner's Wife: "You aren't takin' THAT to the Taxidermist!"
StoveStomper
9:47:36 AM
7/02/08

Ever feel like you're talking to yourself? Act on it.
Geobeet
10:03:15 AM
7/02/08

As long as I've got you, I'm not talking to myself. LOL
StoveStomper
10:24:50 AM
7/02/08



StoveStomper
12:26:33 PM
7/03/08

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