Another responsible NRA member

“Gun Control - Tight Shot grouping....Think about it this way, one less scum we have to treat like a baby.”

“This is cool, we had a STbag knife his wife in SC last night. He was tracked to another town and arrested. WELL Junior finally did something honorable, he hung himself in his cell today!!!.
Yeah you gotta like the Prison Supplies in the South; You get your jumpsuit, flipflops, bedding, toilet kit and this 6 section of 1/2 Sisal Rope.”

“Good responses XL400236.”

“Jack'em, Tag'em, Bag'em, and Stack'em....The way to control the criminal element.”

“That, and the 3 S's.

(shoot, shovel, and shutup, for those of you not in the know)”

“And now....the cliche page

"Don't Run, You will only die tired."”

“BATAVIA -- A Clermont County grand jury indicted a 66-year-old Union Township man Wednesday on a charge of aggravated murder in the death of his 15-year-old neighbor.

Charles Martin calmly admitted Sunday to a 911 operator, “I just killed a kid.”

He said he was upset that the teenager, Larry Mugrage, had walked on his lawn.


The indictment alleges that Martin planned the killing.

Mugrage was on his way home to get a video game when he was shot dead, according to Union Township police.

Officers said Martin fired two rounds from a .410-gauge shotgun at the teen.

Mugrave was in the street at the time, but the shooting followed a confrontation four hours earlier between Martin and Mugrage after the teen stepped on the lawn of Martin’s Hawthorne Drive home.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060322/NEWS01/303220018/1077”

“While I'm pretty sure you're not intentionally trying to mislead anyone, I couldn't find the part in the story where it mentions this guy was an NRA member. Oh well, maybe I missed it.


http://www.nra.org/”

“This is what gun ownership is all about... protecting one's property. It's his right, god dammit!

"Martin, 66, allegedly told police he had several times had problems with neighbors walking on his lawn. He remained jailed without bond Monday. His jailers said no attorney was listed for him.

Neighbors said Martin lived alone quietly, often sitting in front of his one-story home with its neat lawn, well-trimmed shrubbery and flag pole with U.S. and Navy flags flying."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/20/boy.shot.ap/index.html
last edited: 3/23/06 12:36:17 AM”

“"...flag pole with U.S and navy flags flying."

guess the thread title should be;

another responsible patriot”

“Studies show that the murder rate declines as gun ownership increases. As unfortunate any murder is, gun ownership in the United States saves more lives than if guns were banned. Then only outlaws would have guns.”

“It is not NRA members it is veterans. We should get rid of all the guns, disband the military and bend over.”

“.410?1?!? What a pu$$y.”

“hmmmm, so do we consider this guy a terrorist? He killed an innocent person in defense of encroachment on his land.

Shoot first, ask questions later - a terrorist trait (and a republican one as well).”

“Shoot first, ask questions later - a terrorist trait (and a republican one as well).” -BB

Actually, the republican response would be shoot first, and blame the innocent victim.”

“Don't be such nullos.”

“Hmmm, once again I see nothing about the guy being an NRA member. Looks like more manipulative vilification of inanimate objects. If anything this is a mental health issue and not a gun issue. We will never have true freedom until we stand up and fight for the freedoms we don’t agree with.

Blaming a gun for death is like blaming a pencil for misspelling.”

“Nigal, you refering to the guy with the shotgun or violin?”

“I'm thinking both.”

“Eeni meeni minee mo...the dude with gun.”

“Tragedy on Capitol Hill: 7 dead after rampage

By Seattle Times Staff


After partying peacefully all night with young people he'd met at a nearby rave, the heavyset man left an east Capitol Hill home around 7 a.m. He returned minutes later, draped in ammunition belts and armed with a 12-gauge shotgun and a semiautomatic pistol.

His first victim was gunned down on the front steps, the second on the porch. Pandemonium broke out as partygoers dived out windows while others tried to hold the front door shut in the face of a fusillade of shotgun blasts.

He killed six young people Saturday morning before turning the shotgun on himself as a police officer confronted him. Two others were hospitalized with gunshot wounds.

Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske described the man as "quiet and humble" but knew little else about a mass killer whose crime is among the worst in Seattle history, eclipsed only by the 1983 Wah Mee Massacre that left 13 dead.

"We have no idea what that means or what significance it has," the chief said.

As many as 30 people were in the house when the man approached, draped in bandoliers of ammunition and armed with a handgun and a pistol-grip, 12-gauge shotgun — a weapon Kerlikowske pointedly said was "not for hunting purposes, but for hunting people."

Kerlikowske said the man forced his way into the home, firing randomly.


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002890297_shooting26m.html


Another gun massacre brought to you by courtesy of the NRA.


"Those who knew them can't believe one of the brothers may have murdered six people and injured two others at a Capitol Hill house party, before turning the gun on himself.

"I wouldn't suspect them of anything," said assistant manager Jim Pickett, adding he would be shocked to hear if they were involved in the shootings.

"I couldn't see them hurtin' a thing," said apartment manager Gordon Gray. "I mean, they like to hunt. But other than that, hey, they're not harmful."

http://www.komotv.com/stories/42608.htm

Just another harmless responsible hunter.
last edited: 3/26/06 7:46:09 PM”

“Wow.”

“Fight for your right to protect yourself from alcoholic druggies like that guy. Join today.


http://www.nra.org/


PS: nope.....still can't find that part about him being either an NRA member or a hunter. Nice post though, troll. Thanks for keeping us aware of sickos like him. Arm yourself today.”

“It is ridiculous to think that a person who would kill six people would not buy an illegal firearm is firearms were banned.

It is obvious that if anyone in the house was carrying a concealed firearm, the death toll would be quite less. In fact, the murderer committed suicide the instant he was confronted by someone else who was armed, the police.

When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.”

“When dildos are outlawed only outlaws will have dildos.

Pssssssssst. NC:

"I couldn't see them hurtin' a thing," said apartment manager Gordon Gray. "I mean, they like to hunt. But other than that, hey, they're not harmful."
last edited: 3/26/06 8:21:25 PM”

“Oops! Missed that BM, thanks.



So, being a life-long hunter myself, it's probably only a matter of time before I snap too?”

“Might depend on what you hunt and why?”

“A gun with the handle and trigger turned 90*degrees should be part of all gun owners arsenal.Then when they feel the urge to shot someone it would be easier to do all else a favor.”

““Fight for your right to protect yourself from alcoholic druggies like that guy. Join today.


http://www.nra.org/


PS: nope.....still can't find that part about him being either an NRA member or a hunter. Nice post though, troll. Thanks for keeping us aware of sickos like him. Arm yourself today.”

Haha! Very classic noncom!”

“I like Larry the Cable Guy's take on this. "Blaming the gun for shooting someone is like blaming your pencil for miss spelling a word."”

“One could put a plaque with,"If your pissed off use me first", or "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".”

“ELK GROVE, California (AP) -- A man with a 12-gauge shotgun went on a shooting spree along a busy downtown street, killing one person and wounding four others before a deputy shot him, officials said Sunday.

Authorities said Aaron Norman Dunn, 28, randomly shot at people, hitting three, as he walked down the street Saturday night. Two other people were injured by glass when bullets hit their car windshields.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/27/street.shootings.ap/index.html”

“When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.” -prosecutor

If guns are outlawed, wouldn't the police and military still have guns?

Are you saying the police and military wouldn't have guns if guns were outlawed?

Or, are you implying that the police and military would be outlaws?

So you see, prosecutor, your logic is flawed or you simply chose to tell a lie. This is the type of propaganda that comes out the ass of the NRA.
last edited: 3/27/06 12:10:57 PM”

“GOOD THEORY...but since CARS kill more people every year...LETS outlaw all privately owned and operated vehicles.”

“How about backyard pools? Bees? Mop buckets?”

“Wow - we really are breaking into the NRA excuses list now huh?

Guns will never be banned in the US of A, but making them a little more difficult for outlaws and crazies to get hold of doesn't seem such a bad idea.”

“A crazy or outlaw in Chicago can buy an untracable handgun or rifle on the street in less than an hour for $50, no questions asked.

An honest citizen in Chicago cannot own a handgun for self defense against crazies and outlaws. If the honest citizen wanted to buy a gun, he would have to wait 6 weeks to get a state firearms card, travel downstate to buy a rifle, fill out a long federal paperwork and return after the waiting period. This is one of the reasons why Chicago had more murders per capita of the big cities year after year since the gun ban went into effect more often than not. Studies show that waiting periods, gun registrations, and gun bans do not decrease violent crime but actually increase violent crime. These laws only keep firearms out of the hands of honest citizens who could use them for self defense.”

“prosecutor, prosecutor, prosecutor....
There you go again.....
Trying to use logic and reasoning on anti-gun nuts. ;-)”

“A crazy or outlaw in Chicago can buy an untracable handgun or rifle on the street in less than an hour for $50, no questions asked - well maybe that's because there's so many guns in circulation because in most cases they're so easy to get hold of?”

“y2, since you're so afraid of guns and their prevelance, why don't you move back to Britain? Obviously Britain, with its tight gun-control laws, doesn't have any problems with violence...

(waiting for the shrill "but you can't compare the two countries because I say so" comment)”

“So you really don't pay any attention then Muttly?

Lets compare the two, 1/6 to 1/5 the murders, 1/3 the rapes.

Or were you talking about the BS study that Prosecutor likes to trot out, knowing little to nothing about the country?

The only whining you typically here comes from the "I love my precious, it makes me feel secure brigade." ;o)
"Pleeeeeaaaaassssseeeeee don't take my guns away - they make me special."

But of course, no-one likes to talk about steps like making it a little less easy, like Prosecutor says, to go and buy a gun for $50 on a street corner. They'd rather make it - they'd rather make it into "they want to take your guns away."

And going back? I love America - that's the reason I'd like to see it a safer place. Surely it would take a person who hated America to enjoy, and not want to do something about, the spree shootings which now barely warrent a mention on the nation media because they happen so often?

And I still don't understand what makes you so afraid of the big-wide-world. What is it muttley?

Or maybe you'd like to pick on my terminology, cos I don't use the 'trendy' words they use at your local gun club when you're out in public carressing your weapon.”

“Lol - good point zac. To be honest, it's going to remain as easy for outlaws to get guns for $50 on the street corner because the NRA has been so effective in lobbying. It's nowhere on the political agenda. I wouldn't even feel threatened about them taking away your guns.

That's one less thing for you to be scared of Mutt.”

“Guns will never be banned in the US of A, but making them a little more difficult for outlaws and crazies to get hold of doesn't seem such a bad idea.

How?
last edited: 3/27/06 2:43:40 PM”

“Ya see Y2, all that mayhem is a small price to pay for the right to get your hands on one of those lovely things.

I don't know about your terminology but your typing eats it today.”

“Sarge - everyone can have and carry a handgun, but you need to pass a state competancy test every five years, or when you change guns. Make this licence tied to a particular gun, so that if you change guns you need to take a new test, and to make it slightly more difficult for a psycho to build up an armory. Those who want to arm themselves to the teeth would have to make regular visits to the local police station. They can still have whatever guns they want, but they'll have to do a little work for it.

For home defence and hunting, shotguns and rifles can be exempt from this - you have a handgun licence for a single gun, then you can buy a rifle or shotgun.

Apply laws on a federal basis. One of the problems in DC, for example, is that although you can't buy a gun in the district, someone without a record can go get some in VA, and then go sell them on the street and make a profit.
Look into smart technology, though I know there's no real solutions at the moment - though I think this needs to be done over a longer timespan.
Put the onus on the gun store owners finable for guns later used in crimes (not a huge amount, but enough to make them think). This might make them a little more careful about whop they sell to.

Just a few ideas.
last edited: 3/27/06 3:03:35 PM”

“Right to Carry States have a lower overall violent crime rate. Total violent crimes 18% lower, Homicide 21% lower, robbery’s are 32% lower and aggravated assaults are 11% lower- (Resource: FBI)


USA~ Just like no one can buy drugs now cause they're against the law? Come on get real!”

“If they had higher Cancer rates would legal handguns cause cancer?”

“I love America - Y2

Hah! That made me chuckle out loud! What you love about America isn't American (socialism, gun control, PC, et al) , and tradional Americanism you hate with a passion! I mean, I've been on the receiving end of your "dumb hick redneck" comments enough times to know that!”

“So you're argument is there should be no controls on any drugs then? Walmart, bringing you crack and Meth for less?

You'll always be able to get guns. Just making it a little less easy puts the prices up and makes it a little less available.”