Another responsible NRA member

“Excellent point prosecutor.”

“One week makes a "excellent point"?

BTW - what were the numbers, exactly? Curiosity begs the question.”

“This week:

New Orleans: 14 murders
Iraq: 8 Americans killed
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16490563/”

“NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (AP) -- A woman accused of giving her teenage son a handgun and telling him to take revenge after he lost a fight was arrested Thursday after another teen was killed, police said.

Police were searching for her son, Clarence Johnson, 17, who faces a charge of second-degree murder in the death of the other 17-year-old, New Orleans police Sgt. Joe Narcisse said.

He said both teens had walked away after the original fight Wednesday evening.

"Detectives learned Johnson went home and shared the details of the fight with his mother. Johnson's mother, 44-year-old Vanessa Johnson, gave him a handgun and instructed him to exact revenge on the victim because Johnson had apparently lost the fight," Narcisse said.

Clarence Johnson found the other youth shortly afterward and fired several rounds, hitting him once in the abdomen, Narcisse said. The other teen died at the city's trauma center.

Vanessa Johnson was charged with being a principal to second-degree murder.”

“"Yeah, or you can just run away before the police arrive. Always use a barrel that can't be traced back to your gun, and always pay cash for ammunition, and always wear gloves when loading mags. You should be scott free!”
Mutt
1:10:23 PM
2/08/07”

“The murderer violated a whole lot of gun control laws that did absolutely nothing other than disarm the honest victim. Proof that when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.”

“USA, I don't see anywhere in this where either the mom or the shooter was a member of NRA. So why is this here? What is your point. You do have a point don't you?”

“When rote responses are outlawed, these guys will have nothing.”

“Like barking dogs, Violin.”

“NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (AP) -- A woman accused of giving her teenage son a knife and telling him to take revenge after he lost a fight was arrested Thursday after another teen was killed, police said.

Police were searching for her son, Clarence Johnson, 17, who faces a charge of second-degree murder in the death of the other 17-year-old, New Orleans police Sgt. Joe Narcisse said.

He said both teens had walked away after the original fight Wednesday evening.

"Detectives learned Johnson went home and shared the details of the fight with his mother. Johnson's mother, 44-year-old Vanessa Johnson, gave him a knife and instructed him to exact revenge on the victim because Johnson had apparently lost the fight," Narcisse said.

Clarence Johnson found the other youth shortly afterward and slashed several times, stabbing him once in the abdomen, Narcisse said. The other teen died at the city's trauma center.

Vanessa Johnson was charged with being a principal to second-degree murder.”

““"Yeah, or you can just run away before the police arrive. Always use a barrel that can't be traced back to your gun, and always pay cash for ammunition, and always wear gloves when loading mags. You should be scott free!”
Mutt
1:10:23 PM
2/08/07”
USA
9:25:55 PM
2/08/07

Come on guys, isn't posting instructions on "scott free" killing just a bit beyond the pale?”

“LOL...Gun Control...is Viles first plan...Plan 2...die Endlösung der Judenfrage

()LOL)..point out unrelated topics so you can paint the picture with the CONSENSUS of your buds...Consensus...good logical way to run a group for vile it was like his buds who hold those meetings in the over tailored bedsheets their consensus is that they are right all they have to do is control us so we believe them too.”

“Mothers should be outlawed.”

“Proof that when mothers are outlawed, only outlaws will have mothers.”

“Ewk - I do. I have to pay quarterly taxes and pay the minimum I can through the year. I keep all I can in a MM account and bend over come 4/15.”

“ABBEVILLE, South Carolina (AP) -- Steven Bixby considers himself a patriot and a prophet with no regrets about gunning down two law officers at his parents' home, according to hundreds of pages of letters written after his arrest.

The letters, each signed "chaotic patriot Steve," also reveal his personal demons and ironclad beliefs, and in one he questions his own sanity.

The 39-year-old man was convicted Sunday, after a five-day trial, of murdering the two officers. On Tuesday, the penalty phase of his trial begins; the same jury that convicted him has a choice of sentencing him to death or to life without chance of parole.

His family was upset because the state wanted to take about 20 feet of land near their home to widen a highway. Witnesses said Bixby and his father, who is awaiting trial on murder charges, had threatened to gun down any officer who set foot on their land.

During deliberations that lasted less than 2-1/2 hours, jurors asked to rehear some of the letters to a former girlfriend in which Bixby described how he took one wounded officer's gun, handcuffed the dying man, dragged him inside the house and read him Miranda rights.

"I started to cry but I got refocused on the job," he wrote to former girlfriend Alane Taylor. "If we had wanted to, that whole day would have been an entire bloodbath."

The officer, Abbeville County sheriff's Sgt. Danny Wilson, was dragged into the house after he was gunned down while standing on the front porch, authorities said.

State Constable Donnie Ouzts was sent to check on Wilson and was shot when he stepped out of his patrol car. Ouzts died on the way to a hospital.

Police surrounded the house for the rest of the day in a standoff with Bixby and his father that didn't end until after hundreds of rounds were fired.

Steven Bixby and his father, Arthur, who was wounded, were charged with murder.

Public defender Charles Grose said Bixby composed more than 1,500 pages worth of letters to Taylor in the first year after his arrest that day in 2003. In them, Bixby is steadfast in his belief that the shootings were justified, calling them "right and correct in God's eyes."

"We the people are a majority," Bixby wrote. "The laws were made to protect us from the police."

On the stand for the defense Saturday, Bixby's mother agreed. "He has the right to protect his property by any means necessary," testified Rita Bixby, 74.

Although she wasn't home during the gun battle, she was charged as an accessory because authorities say she knew her husband and son planned to harm police officers.

The 20 feet of land the family refused to give up has since been used to expand a highway that runs near the now-vacant home.

The letters include ramblings about the significance of some numbers, including mathematical equations involving his birth date, age and length of jail time.

He says God "wants all the evil to be exposed" and mentions a premonition of the shootout: "I saw this in a dream about a month before it happened."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/02/19/sc.standoff.ap/index.html

Let's hope this land rights, gun rights, cop-killing patriot supports the death penalty.
last edited: 2/19/07 3:33:12 PM”

“A hard right without his blinker on.”

“And yet all these hundreds of gun control laws we already have did nothing to stop it. Thanks for showing us once again how gun control does not work.”

“Florida passed a right to carry firearms law. In the years followed, not a single person obtaining such a permit ever used their weapon against a police officer. Several permit holders did though come to the defense of officers needing backup. Academic studies show that when states pass laws allowing citizens to carry concealed firearms, homicides and violent crime decreases from what would be otherwize expected.”

“All those gun control laws have no teeth because of the NRA.
last edited: 2/20/07 12:57:08 AM”

“We have had complete bans on some weapons like assault rifles and it did nothing. No teeth? Banning a weapon has as much teeth as it gets.”

“Despite the NRA, Chicago has banned all handguns. In the years following the Chicago handgun ban, Chicago more often than not led the nation's big cities in per capita homicides.”

“We've got plenty of crackpots like that in this neck of the woods (Abbeville is about an hour NW of here).

I have to disagree with the death penalty on this one. You're familiar with the expression "Killing's too good for him"... and I believe it applies in this case. He should be kept alive in some lovely South Carolina State Hellhole for about forty years (without being the punishment being legally cruel and/or unusual, of course) and then we can only hope he has a long, lingering and miserable death. The needle is much too quick.

It is sadly comic how the NRA fought tooth & nail to successfully gut the so-called assault weapons ban and then attacked it afterward as being an ineffective joke.

Mission accomplished.”

“Yeah, if only the assault weapons ban would've been done right, this wouldn't have happened. Why does the NRA hate police?”

“NORCO, California (AP) -- More than 1 million rounds of ammunition, a cache of weapons and a tunnel were found at a man's home after an explosive fire that forced a neighborhood evacuation, authorities said Friday.

Crews worked to fortify the tunnel, which measured 5 feet wide by 8 feet long, to ensure it was safe. It appeared to be at least 10 feet deep and led into a backyard, authorities said.

The fire Thursday afternoon at the home in Norco, about 45 miles east of Los Angeles, caused some of the ammunition to explode.

The man tried to run back into the house after firefighters arrived and had to be restrained by sheriff's deputies, Riverside County Sheriff's Deputy Juan Zamora said.

After the blaze was extinguished, crews discovered metal and wooden boxes of ammunition for shotguns, small handguns and assault rifles.

On Friday, sheriff's deputies and agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives combed the house for evidence.

Dozens of metal and cardboard boxes filled with ammunition for shotguns, small handguns and assault rifles sat in a driveway. Two of the assault rifles were illegal, Zamora said.

The man had no permit for 75 pounds of black gunpowder that was also recovered, Zamora said.

No arrests had been made. The man, whose identity was not released, was taken to a hospital where he will receive a psychological evaluation, Zamora said.”

“Damn, yet another example of the failure of gun control. Does this crap ever work?”

“One wacko at a time ----”

“Um, so what exactly is the problem here? Except perhaps for the illegal rifles, but that ban is unconstitutional anyway. Who cares if he's an ammo nut? If he hoarded gasoline, would all the liberal sissies be running around screaming "he's going to make a bomb!"???


Liberals are such hoplophobes. It's funny in a sad and ignorant way.”

“On Friday, sheriff's deputies and agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives combed the house for evidence.

Are those your "liberal sissies"??

Mutt you shouldn't be throwing out big words like, "sissy".
I've seen pictures.

It's funny in a sad and impotent way.”

“MarkO...in 1993 we saw a slashing of the top leadership of the FBI, and ATF on a level approaching Kristallnacht or a Stalinistic Purge.

Gone were the good quality officers many resigned most were reassigned. In the next few years we saw gross incompetence under the then Attorney General Janet EL-Reno. Waco, Ruby Ridge, the incompetence with numerous other events.

I have good friends in ATF and FBI but even they will tell you there are levels of strange enforcement...fur instance from the time the 3 day waiting period went into effect over 100,000 FELONS and other RESTRICTED persons filed FALSE applications ( a MAJOR felony)...NONE, ZIP, ZERO, NADA were every indicted, or charged.”

“NONE, ZIP, ZERO, NADA......sense to the above post.

Waco, like Somalia, was handed off by......um, who was that wimp-ass former prez?”

“NONE, ZIP, ZERO, NADA......sense to the above post. - markO

He was just following your lead, Mark.”

“Waco was Bush 41s problem....? Hmm gotta ask where do you find even ONE comment on the danger of Koresh in ANY OTHER PRESIDENTIAL report? No it was plain and simple, the libbies wanted a poster child for psychol Christian Religious nuts and gun owners.

They picked Koresh and then the field people screwed the pooch. Koresh went running every morning...on the road....but they waited until he got home to go after him...WHAT TWITS>”

“By Diana Hefley
Herald Writer

MARYSVILLE - It's probably not a good idea to offer a taxidermist $15,000 to stuff an endangered grizzly bear, or to brag to a meat cutter about bagging the 850-pound animal, especially when your freezer is full of illegal deer meat.

Seems like common sense.

Maybe not.

A 20-year-old Marysville man is facing up to $10,000 in fines for poaching.

He's not in trouble for bringing down one of the mammoth bears, which can't be hunted legally in Washington. But he's in serious trouble for illegally killing a trophy deer, whose meat was found when officers searched the man's house for signs of a slain grizzly.

"If you sat down with a 12-pack of beer to come up with a stupid story, you'd never touch this one," state Department of Fish and Wildlife Sgt. Rich Phillips said. "We say it all the time - hunting and alcohol don't mix."

Wildlife officers picked up the scent of some illegal hunting earlier this year when an Eastern Washington taxidermist reported someone called him about finding a dead grizzly bear near Concrete.

The caller told the taxidermist the bear had four-inch claws and was seven feet long. The man claimed the bear was wearing a tracking collar that he'd cut off before wrestling the 700-pound animal into the bed of his pickup truck using a winch, according to court records.

The caller said he didn't have the appropriate license or tags but offered the taxidermist $15,000 to stuff the bear posed over a mounted "deer kill."

The Eastern Washington man said the caller sounded "drunk or on some kind of drugs," according to a search warrant affidavit.

The taxidermist told game officers he refused to stuff the animal, encouraged the man to return the carcass to where he found it and then called the Washington State Patrol.

The report landed on the desk of state fish and wildlife officer Chris Clementson.

It is illegal to possess or hunt endangered animals. In Washington, the grizzly bear, or Ursus arctos horribilus, is listed as an endangered species.

It was highly unlikely the caller would have found a grizzly near Concrete. It is believed that there are only 40 or 50 grizzlies living in the Northern Cascades. It would be rare for a grizzly to be so far south, although a confirmed grizzly sighting occurred in 1996 near Glacier Peak in Snohomish County.

There was just enough about the phone call for an investigation, Clementson said.

Clementson learned the cell phone used to call the taxidermist also was used to call a Camano Island meat cutter.

The meat cutter relayed a similar story about a man who offered to pay to have a grizzly bear skinned. In that call, the bear had bulked up to 850 pounds and the caller said he'd shot the bear after it attacked his hounds while he was hunting.

The meat cutter told the man he couldn't help him and urged him to dump the bear where he killed it. The man reportedly said "the thing is still wiggling and I have to go anyway," and hung up.

Clementson tracked down the owner of the cell phone and obtained a warrant to search the man's Marysville house.

He found no sign of a bear.

Officers did find packages of frozen deer meat,

antlers and a story that still has them shaking their heads.

"God bless stupidity," Phillips said.

The Marysville man was cooperative and told officers he and two friends were driving down to a sportsmen show in Puyallup when one of his friends used his cell phone to make prank calls to the taxidermist and the meat cutter, Clementson said.

The Marysville man said he would have made the call himself, but he was laughing too hard to maintain the ruse, Clementson said.

"I think they just thought it would be funny," Clementson said. "For them to think that we wouldn't come looking is just crazy."

According to the game officer, the Marysville man fessed up when asked about the nine packages of venison in his freezer.

The man said he and another group of friends were hunting in November just north of the Snohomish County line when they came across a four-point buck.

The man said he shot the deer.

The kill was poaching, because it happened at night, and the deer had been frozen in front of the hunters who had illegally illuminated it with a spotlight, Clementson said.

"I think it was a target of opportunity for them," he said.

The Marysville man had no deer tag, and was licensed only to hunt bear and cougar, according to the officer.

He and two others, also 20, could be fined up to $10,000 for allegedly "spotlighting" the trophy buck, Clementson said.

No charges have been filed, but the case has been sent to Skagit County prosecutors.

Game officers say this isn't the first time a case has taken a turn for the strange.

In the hunt for crimes against animals, they've come across marijuana fields, gambling operations and even a pet cougar.

Following the trail of a dead make-believe grizzly and bagging a poached trophy buck "well that's a 1 in a 100 story," Phillips said.

http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/07/03/09/100loc_a1hunter001.cfm”

“Trollin', trollin', trollin,
USA keeps trollin,
But no one is buyin'
Today.



PS: that bear would have made an AWESOME rug!”

“Yep! Lock 'em up.

And the last thing they hear as the lights go out... "Good night, Cupcake."”

“The tastiest venison is always ill gotten gains. The Kings deer are my deer.”

“Hey Robin! Long time no see ---”

“Not surprising this dumbass is from USA's neck of the woods. LOL!”

“In USA's neck of the woods they don't like real fur or bear meat so it really surprises me. (Not a lot of manly men in that area, if you know what I mean.)”

“I shall resist the urge to post a pics of Ney and Traficant.”

“In this neck of the woods they have padded seats mounted on the roofs of their jeeps and spotlights on swivels. True Sportsmen.

Gotta love the videos of them shooting at the robotic deer.... then the blues lights come on.”

“We don't have the technology (or the money) to do that up here. They just string a road killed deer up on a barb wire fence and wait for the Suv's with the Illinois tags.”

“We really don't have money to spare for things like that either, but you know some politician's brother-in-law is buying plastic deer, sticking electric motors in them to wag the tail and selling it to the Game&Fish guys for 400.00 a pop ---”

“In USA's neck of the woods they don't like real fur or bear meat so it really surprises me.
Nonconformist
10:19:56 AM
3/10/07

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“That back hair is out of control.”

“Anyone notice a small problem with this clip?

http://www.pistolwimp.com/media/59192/

All I can say is I WANT ONE OF THOSE”

“A 24-year-old man with a gunshot wound in his arm walked into Abbott Northwestern Hospital for help and pointed the finger at an unexpected suspect: his 2-year-old son.
Minneapolis police say that Detrick D. Jiles told officers that the boy, whose name police did not release, had taken the gun from his mother's purse and fired it at Jiles.

"I cannot think of the last time a 2-year-old was involved in a shooting," Lt. Amelia Huffman, a police spokeswoman, said Tuesday. "It's a pretty rare thing, thankfully."

An investigation has been opened to determine whether there was child endangerment by the parents because a child apparently was able to reach a gun.

http://www.startribune.com/467/story/1068661.html”

“Yet another dumbass who doesn't take advantage of the numerous educational programs the NRA provides for free. Even with all the hundreds of gun control laws it didn't prevent it. Tisk tisk.”