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Death to the gun-toting NRA
Brady Center Releases Comprehensive Report on Terrorism and Guns - Details How Terrorists Exploit Weak Gun Laws to Amass Firearms


(Washington, DC) The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence today released a new report that details how terrorists use weak gun laws to amass firearms in the United States. The document, entitled: "Guns and Terror: How Terrorists Exploit Our Weak Gun Laws," was released at a news conference on Capitol Hill, at which Senators Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) and Jack Reed (D-R.I.) and Representative Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) called for stronger U.S. gun laws as a critical component of homeland security.

"This report makes one thing crystal clear: terrorists and guns go together," said Michael D. Barnes, President of the Brady Center. "Firearms are part of the essential tool kit of domestic and foreign terrorists alike. Guns are used to commit terrorist acts, and guns are used by terrorists to resist law enforcement efforts at apprehension and arrest.

"For terrorists around the world, the United States is the Great Gun Bazaar. When terrorist training manuals single out the U.S. for its easy access to firearms, and when gun runners testify that they 'have nothing like this at home,' we know we have a dangerous problem. Ensuring true 'homeland security' means combating the threat of terrorism in all its possible forms, with all its potential weapons - especially guns."

The report notes that, found among the mounds of rubble at a training facility in Afghanistan for a radical Pakistan-based Islamic terrorist organization, was a manual entitled "How Can I Train Myself for Jihad" containing an entire section on "Firearms Training." Tellingly, the manual singles out the United States for its easy availability of firearms and stipulates that al-Qaeda members living in the U.S. "obtain an assault weapon legally, preferably AK-47 or variations." Further, the manual sets forth guidelines for how would-be terrorists should conduct themselves in order to avoid arousing suspicion as they amass and transport firearms.

The report's release follows the recent acknowledgment by Attorney General John Ashcroft that he has refused a request by the FBI to use Brady Law criminal background check records to determine if any of 1,200 foreign nationals detained after the September 11 terrorist attacks had bought guns.

This special 30-page Brady Center report makes the case for stronger gun laws, and for better enforcement of existing laws, as an essential part of a comprehensive homeland security program. The report details specific cases involving terrorists and guns purchased in the U.S. In some instances, the perpetrators have been definitively linked to known terrorist organizations. In others, the perpetrators acted on their own, but were clearly intent on waging a campaign of terror against their targets. All of these cases illustrate weaknesses and loopholes in current law.

By examining in detail specific cases involving terrorists and guns, the report shows that:

· Gun shows are a breeding ground for gun sales to terrorists, because in most states, unlicensed sellers can sell guns without background checks.

· Nothing in federal law prevents terrorists from quickly amassing arsenals of weapons.

· The irresponsibility of the gun industry, as well as irrational statutory restraints on federal record keeping of gun sales and other necessary enforcement tools, allows corrupt gun dealers to funnel guns to terrorists.

· Loopholes in federal law have allowed terrorists to buy assault weapons and high-capacity military ammunition magazines.

· A loophole in federal law allows terrorists to buy "gun kits" through the mail that can be assembled into untraceable assault weapons.

In addition, the report proposes a specific agenda for reform of our nation's gun laws in the interest of national security, including:

· Requiring complete criminal background checks wherever a gun is sold, whether at a gun show, through classified ads or over the Internet.

· Retaining federal background check records and allowing reasonable access to those records by federal law enforcement.

· Limiting large-volume gun purchases to curb trafficking of guns to terrorists and criminals.

· Permanently reauthorizing the assault weapons ban.

The connection between terrorism and guns is undeniable. As America conducts its war on terrorism - at home and abroad - authorities must have the strongest possible mechanisms to root out terrorists before they strike. In short, they need the strongest possible gun laws. Our national security demands it.
George Dubya Evildoer
12:42:55 PM
4/11/02

This is laughable.

On 9/11, not a single fire arm was used in one largest acts of murder ever committed.

PS Did you know that Dianne Feinstein packs a gun?
BaSO4
1:00:42 PM
4/11/02

I would say the Brady center uses terror tactics based on the definition in my dictionary. They try to terrify people into following their political agenda by implying a threat to their safety, family, etc. if they don't go along with their plan. Hmmm.
Liberal scare tactics= terrorism
mtnman
1:05:28 PM
4/11/02

I still like this one. "guns are the cause of crime (or terrorism) as much as pencils are the cause of misspelled words"
trailhound57
1:38:40 PM
4/11/02

Diane Feinstein packs a gun?

Oh dear me!

Probably to protect herself from the vast right-wing consporatorial nuts like YOU!
Tom Terrific
1:49:46 PM
4/11/02

I think G. D. Evildoer mis-spelled...NRA is supposed to be IRA.
stanlee
1:53:28 PM
4/11/02

You have got to be kidding!
GDE, you are either the dumbest S.O.B. to ever walk the face of the earth, or your are a truly sick joke. Pull your head out of your @$$ and get your facts straight before you publicly display your gross ignorance. What the ---- are you doing on this website, anyway?
Father Goose
10:21:22 PM
4/11/02

oops!
Sorry for the typo on that last one! Not that that dumb@$$ GDE would know the difference.
Father Goose
10:30:20 PM
4/11/02

I don't think GWEvildoer's posts don't change people's minds. In fact, I think he reinforces people with opposing viewpoints beliefs.
Artex
10:35:03 PM
4/11/02

By the way guns don't kill people people kill people.

Even if we did not have guns we would as a race of people would still find a way to kill each other.

What did we use before the gun?

Sword
dagger
knife
mace
spear

etc......etc!!!!!

So come on its not guns that are the problem its the $%^#en crazy people in the world with the %^$ked up ideas!!!!!

If there was a way to get rid of them the who ever comes up with that idea then more power to them.

8|
Crazy Mike Backpacks
10:41:11 PM
4/11/02

weapons
Hey, Crazy Mike, you forgot Damian Williams' "assault brick".
Father Goose
10:47:04 PM
4/11/02

Ya that one did slip my mind!

Hheheheh.....8)
Crazy Mike Backpacks
10:48:49 PM
4/11/02

Or the jaw of an ass, flint choppers etc. How long have humans been killing ourselves? As long as they have been humans?
Pathman
10:52:44 PM
4/11/02

See what I mean.So we have no one to blame but people that are nutz that have the guns!

8)
Crazy Mike Backpacks
10:55:26 PM
4/11/02

Jaw of an ass
That would be the one GED speaks through?
Father Goose
10:59:05 PM
4/11/02

Ooops again!
I meant GWE. I doubt he has his G.E.D.
Father Goose
11:01:19 PM
4/11/02

Who here isn't glad that the Europeans found a better use for gunpowder than fireworks?

Why y'll continue actually read and respond to this doctored gibberish is beyond me.
Briar Rabbit
11:03:33 PM
4/11/02

gibberish
It's because we're intoxicated and have nothing better to do. Besides, this guy's such a horse's @$$, he's fun to pick on. I will agree, though it is a bit of bullying to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man!
Father Goose
11:10:48 PM
4/11/02

Funny thing is, I don't read the posts from GWE or MG, I skip down to read what people say about them.
Pathman
11:11:03 PM
4/11/02

Briar Rabbit
Hey, shouldn't that be 'Bre're Rabbit'?
Father Goose
11:12:48 PM
4/11/02

It means nothing......it's irrelevant....moot.
Hey Mr. Terrific, does owning a gun make me part of a right-wing conspiracy? If so, nobody has told me yet, I wanna play too!

I know it just pisses you guys off that you'll never get our guns taken away, but you should really try and move on. We have law, precedent, and more than 65 million sympathetic americans who feel the same way...No anti-gun organization, or even all of them put together can boast those numbers. So I guess this is a fight your grandchildren will be losing too.....lol.

The funniest part is that gun owners vote more than any other group, and so will our children.
WhiskeyLake
11:27:06 PM
4/11/02

Now thats the truth!!!!!


I think that makes lots of people mad!!!!!

8\
Crazy Mike Backpacks
5:19:14 AM
4/12/02

Wow!!!65 million!!! That is incredible. I have heard the gun lobby is powerful. That is 1/3 to 1/4 of America!!!

Do you suppose that they could get together and help further a law that will at least give some difficulty to the nutcases who go to buy a gun??? I'm all for the responsible owning guns, but there seems to be very little happening to prevent the irresponsible. And if there a are 65 million, do you suppose they could all get together and help to enact some laws, or enforcement to at least make it difficult for a nut to get a gun?????
Uphill Klimber
5:30:49 AM
4/12/02

The simple answer to Uphill Cliber's question is gun owners are IRRESPONSIBLE selfish egotists who only care about themselves. As long as they have a gun in their hands they don't give a damn about society. It's the old short-sighted conservative philosophy... "We only care about ourselves."
George Dubya Evildoer
12:32:31 PM
4/13/02

G.D.Evildoer - get real. You try to sound liberal in all of your postings, but your last comment was the most narrow-minded thing I've heard in years. That's a HUGE generalization, and I find it hard to believe anybody can even think that. That's right along the lines of using racial slurs.

BASO4 and Crazy Mike make excellent points, in my eyes.
Artex
1:06:25 PM
4/13/02

Thats right I do only care about myself and my family and I'm going to do everything in my power to keep them safe...Law abiding citizens need not worry, but any wrong doers putting my family at risk you better watch your ass(actually you better watch center body mass..cause thats where the 1st 2 are going...the third should be easy to see all you'll have to do is cross your eyes) Good Day!
wsdavies
1:38:13 PM
4/13/02

I dedicate this the George Dubya Evildoer...
Well despite my obvious extremism I am not a member of the NRA, that is, until now. I just joined over the phone yesterday, and I would like to thank Georgie boy personally for getting me off my butt and helping me open my wallet to a cause that I feel is important. Now when you speak to me you can use words like terrorist, extremist, nutcase, militant, irresponsible, and ignorant without feeling though your being ignorant, short sited, uninformed, trite, and self-righteous.

Thankyou for making us even stronger; ya'all have a good day now, ya'hear...
WhiskeyLake
7:00:52 PM
4/13/02

Pathman
7:09:26 PM
4/13/02

NRA Terrorists
Good man, Whiskey. Now, if we could just get all the other resposible firearms owners to follow suit, we just might stand a chance of preserving the Second Amendment and those rights that go with it.
Thanks, GDE, you have finally made a useful contribution to society. Maybe your senseless twaddle will inspire others.
Father Goose
7:20:52 PM
4/13/02

""This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"

WHO SAID THIS?






















"Adolf Hitler "
Tango313
9:16:11 PM
4/13/02

Hitler # 1?
Wasn't Hitler the one who wanted to create a superior race? Isn't there some scientists right now trying to perfect a super baby, through DNA and cloning procedures etc.? Maybe Hitler was ahead in his time. Unfortunately he tried to destroy all other cultures and nations to achieve his goal.
stanlee
12:04:58 AM
4/14/02

Well, Hitler was right.

1935-1945 Germany was virtually free of violent crime among the civilian population.
gordon
12:09:32 AM
4/14/02

That's free of violent crimes amongst German civilians...
stanlee
12:22:51 AM
4/14/02

every citizen should own and belong to the NSCNA(national suit case nuke association)why not raise the standard--F-15 anyone?why not just have a peace of the pie and relax?
uncliff
12:26:51 AM
4/14/02

That's too weird, the NRA guys parading Hitler around the way they do.

All those guns would make nice boat anchors.

Fire away, boys!

I just love that news site with an NRA twist.
Tom Terrific
12:41:34 PM
4/14/02

Ever heard the expression the "Devil's gun?

You never hear about "God's gun".

Therefore, guns are the tool of the Devil. Guns are evil. Death to guns.
George Dubya Evildoer
1:41:40 PM
4/20/02

America: Love it or leave it.

Pack your bags, GDE.
Artex
2:06:16 PM
4/20/02

And the #1 Weapon IS ??????
I for one think its a shame we don't do more to control the most used murder weapon in the US. Think about it, anyone at any age with 20.00 in their pocket can obtain it and its completely legal to own and carry in all 50 states.

I feel only properly trained and licensed indivuals should be allowed to purchase and carry them.
dirtyoldman
7:25:21 AM
4/21/02

I'll bite, dirtyoldman. What the he!! are you talking about(I can hardly wait for this)?
Father Goose
7:43:28 AM
4/21/02

hey if yer mad enough to murder someone you dont really wanna just shoot them... do ya?
naaawww! ya wanna beat them with the ol little league slugger

and the statistic holds true even among gun owners who routinely walk past their gun cabinet to get it

baseball bats dont kill people only baseball players do?!?

so ya think we got a chance of getting then regulated?
dirtyoldman
7:56:41 AM
4/21/02

Awwww, jeeze. Ask a stupid question...
I'm gonna go mow the lawn on that one. Good one, Old Man, ya got me.
Father Goose
8:27:22 AM
4/21/02

NRA is one of the finest organizations in America
And one of the most politically influential.... We or they have set the standard of anything to do with shooting for a long time. All police departments, FBI and even the military have consulted the NRA in matters of firearms and ballistics. They are recognized as a firearms authority. Second to none. I am sorry you don't appreciate them but 83 million gun owners think they are a great bunch of folks.... KMA gde!!!

Sincerely
Tommy Gun
Life Member, National Rifle Association
Tommy Gun
6:56:39 PM
4/21/02

Alexander Solzhenitsyn
"How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: What would things have been like if every police operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? If during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever was at hand? The organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt."
— Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Nobel Prize winner and author of The Gulag Archipelago, who spent 11 years in Soviet concentration camps.
Tommy Gun
6:58:50 PM
4/21/02

I apoligise to all but,,,,
I am sorry that you all have to put up with me and gde... During the Clinton years, gun owners suffered “persecution” from the media and the federal government. This is why I feel so compelled to respond to his posts. We (gun owners) are a sensitive lot and are very ready to defend our civil rights because they mean so much to us personally and to the American way of life.

I will have my guns until I die.

I hope every American who wants one will have the right to own one for centuries to come. The NRA and I will always stand for responsible firearms ownership and the American way of life. And stand up to guys like gde.......
Tommy Gun
7:13:24 PM
4/21/02

Saw this on a T-shirt a few years back; GUN CONTROL WORKS: JUST LOOK AT RUSSIA, CHINA, GERMANY

There was another country...I forget which. Should've bought that shirt.
stanlee
11:34:25 PM
4/21/02

Hey stanlee -- check your facts.

Under communist rule some rural areas of the Soviet union had a higher firearm ownership rate than the U.S. Only in the cities was gun ownership tightly controlled. The USSR government GAVE firearms and ammunition to farmers, ranchers, and herdsmen in remote areas.
gordon
11:51:03 PM
4/21/02

Uh, Gordon, could you elaborate on that?
Father Goose
12:02:09 AM
4/22/02

Hey Stanlee, How is private ownership of firearms handled in Canada these days? It does't get favorable press here in the States. What about concealed carry, etc.?
Father Goose
12:06:22 AM
4/22/02

PLEASE!
Save us from ourselves! We can't be trusted with guns. We are constantly shooting ourselves and others with guns! Adults and children alike are not safe from us, we Americans are homocidal maniacs! We need government needs to protect us from guns! And...

as the amount of obese people increase in America we the people now need to be protected from this spectre of evil as well! Please tax soda! Soda is a social plague which is causing our children to become over-weight at an alarming rate!

The people of America cannot be allowed to make their own decisions! Please someone take the right to make decisions from us! We are fat murderers that cannot be trusted!
donman
6:28:41 PM
4/22/02

yes,a soda tax is good.i've witnessed 300lb+ hikers carrying cases of soda accross meadow trails,that's why they're like footing ditches.
uncliff
10:12:51 PM
4/22/02

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