External or Internal Pack Poll

“internal”

“two internal and a frameless GVP G4.”

“internal”

“No frame--internal blown up thermarest.”

“internal”

“External...Dana Design Longbed”

“Internal”

“Still using my external - Camptrails McKinley”

“Both, but external for trails and internal for canoe”

“External for years and years (anyone remember 'Alpine Designs'?)... Internal for the last ten.”

“Internal, about 4400 cu.in. I figure that's enough room and all of it is going inside. Iffin' I can't close it, I've got too much stuff. And I don't want nothing hanging outside, unless of course, I'm drying something. With no frame hanging out, I don't catch anything, like branches, on the frame. It's like an extra jacket in the winter to keep me warm, in the summer, I'll loosen it to cool off and tighten it for rock hopping.”

“I remember Alpine Designs.

A friend of mine had one of their tents in the '70s.

It was like a little Tee-Pee with three straight poles that meet at a little aluminum muffin at the peak.

They made some cool stuff and in Colorado or California.”

“Internal. Wolfskin Trailhead II.”

“External”

“Both,
External for the big loads when taking the scouts out.
Internal when it's just me.”

“Miss OPIE still used my brothers smaller BSA black bull 2700"-3000" internal"
Miss Opie
03:30:38 PM
04/14/02

Wow Opie, you must be a cargo master seeing as how you get 50 pounds of gear into that thing.”

“I have an .... tune in next week for the exciting conclusion to "What Pack Does Dunadan Have"!”

“I'm wondering what kind of pack Marvin has. Of course, he probably doesn't need a pack, the aliens kidnap so early in his trips that he has learned to go without a pack.”

“External but its a wonderful Gregory otherwise I's go internal. Either way go with quality.”

“external > 25 lbs
internal < 25 lbs”

“Reminds me of the 'do you have an inny or an outy' thread

Internal”

“my husband has an external-kelty
I have internal-kelty.
I guess our votes voids each other out.. oh well-tis life.”

“external. Gotta have the ventilation. Got turned off to internals in the Army whent they had us carry the "new generation" (ca. 1991) internal. Hard to pack & sweatty on the back. I'm sure they've come a long way, and if my Kelty Tioga gives out, I'll shop both.”

“One of each, depends on the season and the load.”

“Internal”

“innie”

“Has anyone purchased a Kelty 50-year anniversary external frame pack and used it? I'd like to hear any recommendations.”

“One each.

One thing, though... my IN-ternal doesn't squeek when I walk.”

“its all ive ever used and all i ever will... for hiking where its hot you get more air ventelation for your back. the pack isnt right up against your back”

“External since the 77-78”

“When it rains the internal will keep your sleeping bag dry.”

“When it rains the plastic bag and stuff sack will keep my sleeping bag dry”

“My sleeping bag fits in my external bag. That keeps it plenty dry.”

“Sorry, that's supposed to be external pack”

“thought maybe you had gone marsupial there Skully;



whew”

“LMAO! Nope, not yet. I could use the extra pocket though.”

“Last weekend, I used an external frame pack on a backpacking trip for the first time in 20 years. It was a Camp Trails Spirit II that I customized myself. I replaced the hipbelt with a 1986 Gregory internal frame belt that I already had. This belt has a lot of surface area and is not thickly padded which is what I wanted to maintain a lively feel. I modified it to my own hip cant by trimming the back and resewing it. I also sewed on a double buckle arrangement just like a McHale pack with camlock buckles so it conforms perfectly and does not slip at all. I also reworked the shoulder harness by adding new stabilizer straps that mount higher on the pack.
The most striking thing I noticed with the higher center of gravity is that it felt like there was less pressure on my legs than with most internal frame packs. Stability is not a problem either because of the custom fit and reworked suspension. The bottom line is that the pack can carry loads that would crumble the majority of internal frame packs because their frames are just too weak to begin with. It retains all the good qualities of an external frame, mainly organization and ventilation. For less than a $100 investment, I'm a convert for anything except skiing and tight bushwhacking with it.”

“I can vote now since I finally got a pack. Internal, I bought an Gregory Forester pack.”

“I kinda miss my old E-frame.

Amtrack murdered it.”

“External frames take up to much space...my internal sits in a corner of a closet waiting for the next trip.”

“I have an eternal. When it finally expires I'll get something else. Guess that'll never happen!!!”

“No frame please.”