Dating sucks

“Frames are scary.

What are his hobbies?”

“Tickets to a sporting event that you think you can stand? For after Christmas, of course.”

“I'm taking him to a Notre Dame hockey game this weekend on free tickets. One of the ND coaches is married to one of my college friends. I'm a hell of a girlfriend, huh? It helps that I love college hockey, and I get to see an old friend and gossip.

So, no pictuer frame, Dhutch? Hobbies were included above. I had one of his friends investigate what he wanted for his bike, but he doens't want anything.”

“SG - you gots a tough one there. 4 months, it's kinda hard to buy fer. You could always break up with him then start dating him again after the holidays (I really had a friend that would do that....) :)


Check Sierra Trading Post. Sometimes they've got cool helmets and cycle gear. How about a day trip to the spa? 50 dollar gift cert to Hooters? Pair of Wings tickets? How about a day pack (give'em a hint?) Kick in the ass? :)”

“Ooh, day pack is a good idea and a hint too.”

“This isn't really about dating, or at least not ME dating, but...

A couple of weeks ago, I was sitting at the bar with a friend. In walks another friend with her boyfriend, whom I had never met. She met him through some Internet personal ad and they seem to be having a very good relationship. They sat down next to me. She (I'll call her P) introduced us, we made small talk, he (I'll call him R) looked bored.

P and I were chatting and somehow fishing and hunting came up, and R joined in the conversation. We all laughed and talked (about fishing mostly) for a while, had a couple beers. P isn't really into it, but we thought it would be fun if we all went smelting on the river this winter. R asked for my e-mail address so we could plan it, but I didn't give it to him.

I went away for a few days, then there was the holiday, etc, so back at work on Monday I e-mailed P about how nice it was to meet R, he seemed like a nice guy, that I was happy for her. Her reply was short as were subsequent e-mails. I didn't ask why via e-mail, but we made plans to meet tonight at Margartitaville which we sometimes do. I figured she'd tell me what was wrong then.

But later, I get this e-mail from her:

"So Missy my Friend,

What did you really think of R?

He really liked the idea that you were into ice fishing. Impressed him. He is looking forward to getting together with you this winter as the river freezes."

WTF?? I think I know what's wrong now! Which upsets me for a number of reasons, but I thought I could laugh about it here...bets on how many Margaritas it'll take to get thru this evening?
=D”

“I'm not sure I'd have to give him a big hint to go hiking. I think he'd be up for it. But I may give some thought to the day pack.

Keep the ideas coming....”

“How about permission to wake up stiff? LOL!!!”

“Down booties?”

“LMAO @ Q! Didn't know I had to give "permission" for that!!”

“the classic motorcycle T shirt "if you can read this the b!tch fell off"”

“Twig ---- YOU DID NOTHING WRONG. What is not meant to be is not meant to be. No matter how much one person likes the other.

Smiley -- check out Nashbar.com for bike stuff. What about an indoor trainer thing (like I want, hint hint Santa) for his bike. ....Or you can never go wrong with a headlamp!”

“Smiley G - well go with the frame, as long as you buy him lots of other stuff too. If he's the type of guy who likes a picture frame then you should be dumping him right now ;o)
So he's a scientist - think gadgety stuff .... boys like toys you know.”

“Uh, not mountain bike people, motorcycle. And, like I said, he doesn't want anything else for the bike.

Ynami, yeah, the frame would only be a small part of the gift. I'm having trouble coming up with the rest of it, though!”

“Dang it twiggy! Quit coming on to other men like than! LOL”

“Twiggy - Situations like that often make you feel like you're in the middle. It's no fun. Are you considering asking her front on about it? That usually works best. Clearing the air early is often good, otherwise you end up with some L.A.-type smog.”

“Yeah I know, talking about cutting the heads off bloodworms is a real turn on, LOL...

Thanks dhutch, that's true. But I'm more upset (and kinda pissed) about the thought process that makes her think she has an issue with ME.”

“SG - How about a nakked pic to go in the frame?”

“I think that's on the agenda this evening Artex, LOL...it's just so absurd to me, but I know it's real to her. I sure ain't losing a friend over it.”

“I understand that other gal's thinking!
Twigeater is so babelicious all other women dim in her presence!
Dang, all that talk of fishing, bloodworms, hiking, camping, etc. is sooooooo sexy!”

“StoveStomper, you should change your name to "The TT Flirt" LOL...
babelicious...if only...haha!
=D”

“Stovestomper is right.. it's a rare occurance when a chick likes stuff like that.

Best of luck, Twiggie. I know you already know, but just be sensitive to her feelings about it if she thinks you're stealing her man, which of course you're not. The mind tends to play funny tricks on people sometimes.”

“You ladies underestimate the power of a woman that can talk about stuff guys like to talk about.
He will start thinking of you like a friend rather than 'just' a sex object.
That combination of friend and lover is very rare and something he will want to hold on to.”

“Nothing says "LOVE" like a $100 gift certificate to your favorite gear shop!!!”

“That thought has crossed my mind, Q, but I just need someone to take the picture.

Any volunteers?? :)”

“You might want to take your email address off of your profile for a while, smiley...”

“you're right Artex, it will be fine - I really hope I'm wrong about the whole thing though!

Hey I wanna be a sex object!! LMAO, I wish I could agree with what you said Mr TT Flirt, but I don't.

And I can't tell ya why at this moment, cause I gotta go pick up the fugowe-mobile, poor thing spent the day at the SUV hospital! :(”

“Liquor and trucker? I barely KNOW HER!!!”

“Dang disagreeable saucy wench!
I need to go to Maine! ;)”

“Twiggy... hmmm... geez. Just be YOU! And don't worry about it. Yeah, it can be tough with a friend. And, as has been mentioned, if it's meant to be (for her) it will be, if not, then so be it.

Another question: Is she a bunny boiler, too? Do you have bunnies?? LOL”

“And a rotten #&%!$ besides! =D

Just being me is what GOT me in trouble, LOL...

No bunny boiler there, she and I are about as opposite as can be - she takes great care with her appearance - colors her hair, does her nails, wears makeup and very nice clothes. I hack at my own hair, bite my nails and throw on the least wrinkled thing that I can find off the floor. She's drives a huge gold SUV with all the bells and whistles (even heated seats) in winter and a white mustang convertable in summer. I drive the fugowe-mobile. etc...

She's a large woman, but very attractive and men are always approaching her. I just don't like the idea that she might believe I would be after her fella.”

“haha, I think I get it....

Bunny boiler = Glen Close right ???”

“is it glen or Gwen.....psycho chick movie!!!”

“Smiley - I have a digital camera and a perty good eye!”

“bunny boiler is our pet name for twigeater.
She cooked a rabbit, hence 'bunny boiler'.”

“That movie (Fatal Attraction) is really disturbing to me for some reason. I think I knew someone like her...=80”

“Well that's a nice story Flirty, and if you wanna believe it go ahead. :) I'll tell you the truth someday - maybe when we're off in the woods on the Snow Ball trip, moohahaha!”

“LOL Q! Would your wife be OK with that??”

“Smiley - It doesn't matter what you get him, if your gift is sincere, and the guy isn't a tool, it shouldn't matter.

Twigeater - Sounds like you are dealing with one of the 80% of women out there....one dimensional. Don't sweat it, if you take her man, and she dislikes you, or if you don't take her man and she dislikes you, it sounds like you win either way.”

“More words of wisdom from the Buddha!”

“LOL! A "win-win" situation!!

Speaking of nail polish, I need to post a thread on my weird nail polish experience.....”

“Not the Buddha.”

“I know it doesn't matter, but I really want to get him something nice. He's the kind of guy who brings me flowers whenever, and cracks open a bottle of champagne just because. I want to get him somehting that shows I put a lot of thought into the gift. I think gadget shopping might be key.”

“Smiley, if he doesn't have it how about the key to your house and a drawer for him in your bedroom. Nothing like having clean clothes at your ladies house ;)”

“I did give the the code to my garage, but a key is something you can hold. I like the idea. But cleaning out a drawer could be quite a challenge!!”

“How about his own TV remote?”

“For my place? Not until he gets my DVD/surround system working. :)”

“Smiley - if you want to give him something special that shows you've given it thought. This is not the place to ask.

We don't know him. As much as some of us would love to help this one has to be you.”

“LOL! You're right, dhutch, but I just thought this would help spur some thoughts of my own. I've got a couple ideas, but this is hard without a list!!! Kinda fun to just chat with you all!”

“Smiley, you're taking him to a hockey game and you have a DVD surround system? He should be putty in your hands!”