Dating sucks

“Oh right from CO to WA! LOL! Your a PNWP girl who needs to leave all those Gray skies and come East!”

“yeah, I shoulda said hi earlier Pixie. I'm now stuck at work by a big storm and need entertaining.”

“Don't worry bearmagnet, all my logic goes out the window after a few beers.”

“Storm in Arlington? We're clear in Rockville.”

“Don't have your rain gear with you, huh Y2?”

“yep, biiigggg storm.
No rain gear ruby, be lot of moist people on metro too, so I may as well sit here and play awhile”

“We need to go drinking Y2!

Ruby - rain is Rare here, not the Sun. ;). Well, not this year it seems. What's up with that?”

“yes we do.
So Ruby, what would your ideal first date be. I need some ideas here?”

“I will be climbing Mt. Shasta this weekend. If there are any large-breasted bikini blondes (brunettes are fine too) who want to hike with me this Saturday, please let me know. I gawk and only occasionally grope. Please let me know ASAP.”

“If they like you that much they will move west ;-)
Heck, my man moved here from the DC/VA area...and he isn't planning on going back. I went to DC with him last fall...and I couldn't wait to get back!! I love Wa state..and we have oodles of ladies out here-that love the outdoors :-)
Anyhoo, Pixie...between Dicentra and me, we will get all your secrets out of you :-D I am sure Jay must have told you how most of our hikes degenrate into "improper topics" .. lol!! Yeah, my obbession with boxer birefs and grooming will probably come up on saturday...lucky you...”

“Don't listen to sarbar, pixie, it was all the sunlight and lack of precipitation that freaked her out. It's like when a heroin addict quits, they lose it but its good for them!”

“First dates are tough because a first date is where you evaluate the other one and pretty much decide yay or nay on any possibility for future dates. So I'd keep a first date low-key, maybe coffee which could evolve into a dinner invitation if the two of you are hitting it off. Or meeting after work for a drink with the same idea. Then you're not going to feel obligated to shell out money for dinner, which is pricey.

Get creative and go beyond the typical date stuff. Have you ever watched any of those dating shows? It seems to me they were always planning cool things to do. Or I have heard of dating services that are more focused on active endeavors.

Maybe invite her on an easy day hike, or go horseback riding (drool) at a pay-by-the-hour stable, or go to an art museum (drool), or go to the Smithsonian (drool). Pick something that isn't too expensive and follow it up with coffee or drinks. Don't do a movie since you never get to converse. Do something just a little out of the ordinary as it will make it more memorable and give you a leg up on other first dates. Maybe check with local parks and see what kind of programs they are offering, like a 2-hour bird watching course or a guided wildflower hike. Or go to one of those paint your own ceramic places. Who really wants a self-painted ash tray, but it would be fun and unusual. Maybe you could make a coffee mug for each other. And she will definitely never forget the date. Find an outdoor concert. When I used to live in New Haven, one of my favorite things to do on a summer evening was to go to a local park where the symphony would play an outdoor concert. Bring a blanket, candle if it's dusk, bottle of wine and some cheese and crackers and grapes. Will go over smashingly! Here in Chicago there are tons of neighborhood festivals every weekend that cost almost nothing to go to. Maybe DC has some. Or go to a flea market or auction. Or take a cooking class together.

I'll keep thinking and post when I come up with more.”

“And remember, chivalry is not dead!!

One guy who I met in Chicago for a date bowled me over with his manners. I'm old-fashioned and some women might not like this, but when we went to dinner, he asked me what I wanted then ordered for me from the waiter. When we walked down Michigan Avenue enjoying the warm spring night, he always made sure that he was walking on the street side of me and would hold my elbow to sort of guide me through the crowded sidewalk. That went over way big with me. He was the British guy I mentioned earlier. He and I didn't click, but those things were big hits with me. Opening car and building doors is always good, too.”

“No one in their right mind would leave WA to travel east right now. The weather here is beautiful, and we have waited through the winter to get here :)”

“The weather here is fantastic and all the rain all winter has made everything green and wonderful.
Last weekend I was in the Alpine Lakes Wilderness with dicentra (PNWH posse member)looking at wildflowers. This weekend is a big posse hike to Lodge Lake at Snoqualmie Pass. (I think dicentra and I are making it a bag night.) Today is sunny, 80 degrees, no humidity.
I'd be CRAZY to leave now.”

“do you have any photos pixie?”

“Photos of me or my beautiful home state? : )”

“Wow what the hell is going on today.

315 posts? Is it LoveFest or something? Is this a "Dating Sucks" holiday?”

“perhaps both”

“First date: Coffee is peachy but liquor is quicker.

But tequila is right out!

I had this Hot Nigerian(drool) dancing/grinding with me all night and she wanted to do shots. We did one (?) Cuervo shot and she hit the floor. Her friends took her home and that was the end. :(”

“damn dude, you get so close yet remain so far away. Atleast she didn't throw keys at you.”

“LMAO. I don't like posting "scores", they sound like bragging and they aren't interesting stories unless you get into some details involving kinky stuff.

And maybe I'm alone here but I have more failures than scores. Its the nature of the bar scene, no?”

“If it takes liquor! maybe?
It's Not!
Matt”

“It is freaky hot in King County right now..blue skies and hot weather :-D
Ya know, as fer them Eastie boys, they have better manners when it comes to ladies, if they were bred south of the Line ;-) I love the fact that he opens doors, holds my chair, etc. But I'd hate to live out there! Too many people...”

“Opening car and building doors is always good, too."
Ruby
06:25:46 PM



hmm now the car door opening is a bit much for me...whats the point...i mean you cant pull on the little handle?? its not hard...hell kids do it and you tell me a grown lady/big girl cant pull on it...i am up with the holding doors and what not for buildings but the car is too much...unless she wants to get in my side and climb over the console...which wouldnt be bad considering the view you may be in store for...”

“lol shep. I don't mind at all opening car doors. I find it a bit irritating when they sit there and wait for me to run around the car to let them out though. Gettin in the car is different, I'm generally walking up with her so its more natural.”

“The kinky stuff goes on the "Casual Sex is Great" thread.”

“Sarbar - Southerners don't have better manners were it counts, and Northerners have more teeth! ;)

Roam - Thanks for the tip!”

“WOW
you gals and guys have been busy!

I just finished getting my computer back running normal again! GD Virus!

Roam you still out there buddy?”

“I always open doors for the ladies, even at work, the gear store and especially on a date.

One for the ladies. When coming out to the car and it is locked.
A big one for me is when I do unlock and open a car door for a lady and walk around to my side after shutting her side. It really is a big plus to me if she unlocks my side for me. Via the lock button. It lets me she is thinking of me :-)

I like doing the little and the bigger things for a woman. I also like to have her do a few little things for me now and then. It's doing and recieving the simple things that matter most to me :-)”

“He's got all his teethy and all his fingers :-P
As for door opening...I do it for him also-it is being polite. Guys who at don't do it all, show their lack of manners. Little things count. I like being treated like a lady! Like when he asks me to lead the pace when we hike together-he knows his legs are longer, and he hikes faster, so he lets me lead to keep him slowed down.
Too many people have NO manners these days. Rudeness and not caring is the game.
I love when we go out to dinner, and he drives, he opens the doors, he takes my coat, holds my hand...sure it is anti-feminisim, but! Ya know, I am 31, I grew up being told I didn't need men to pamper me. Bull. I like being valued, being treated like I am special! It shows he cares in his way.
Men....when you complain about not getting any...check your manners along with your attitude, clean clothes and breath! Having manners doesn't mean you are a wuss...heck, most Don Juan lovers have GREAT manners...women love being appreciated!”

“BM,
Ypu crack me up dude....


Sabar,
I talk to people all day all over the country and by far the folks in the south have the best manners and are very polite. People from Boston and NY City are generally rude A-holes.

Manners comes from your parents and/or childhood upbringing. My made sure he taught us all the proper manners and respect. Nowadays most people have ZERO manners or Respect. That truly bothers me. The "we" generation is dying and it becoming the "me" generation....

Sorry to ramble....

OK back to "Dating sucks" !
It's been a week now since the GF/XGF and I have talked. How long is "taking a break" last???....haha

I just wanna know, so I decide if should book my flight to Colorado !!!”

“hey, if yall aren't talking and something comes up, go ahead and make your plans. Depending on how yall left it you could always call her up and say "Hey, I'm making plans to do such and such, if you'd like to come along, let me know, I'm about to buy a plane ticket, etc, etc".

But don't change your plans for a woman, invite her to join, but don't change your own. Of course, certain exceptions apply.”

“I like to open doors for women and then slam it shut right before they get in. It creates awkward moments. I don't know, it's just sorta fun.”

“Every guy I dated after I split up with my kids dad (many years ago, 6+) that had bad manners didn't last long, and neither did they get any special "lovin" ... All it took was one date to see wether they made it or not. If I got treated like I was one of the boys, and "hanging out"...I didn't stick around. Manners rank right up there with keeping the body hair trimmed down below and wearing clean underwear. A lot of guys my age just don't get "it". I hear so many men in the 25-40 year old range whining about that women diss them, that they can't find a woman, etc...and you look at them...
They belch, pass gas and scratch themselves in public, tell crude jokes in front of people they shouldn't, cuss in conversations where it isn't appropraite, don't treat others with respect, don't treat their job as a JOB, act like they are still 16 years old.....haven't seen floss in years, take a shower every 3rd day.....
The worst is men who show no respect to their parents. If a man is cruel to his MOTHER, he will be a dog to you.

Manners are being thumped into my kid by the BF. Long live Southern boys!”

“See how she can't keep her eyes off me!!!
She is in LUST!

”

“Sarbar, I agree with everything you said. I am teaching my two sons all about manners and respecting women and being polite. My goal is to have two very happy daughters-in-law some day.”

“Snafu, Did you kiss her then?”

“Nope! We did not hike the required 100 miles yet :-)”

“Ruby I was able to see your homepage, Heather looks nice as do you. Nice smiles. You look very happy with your BF. Good luck with it and I hope the best for you.
I just started my homepage tonight. I'm finally getting around to it now that Im single again (at least I think I'm single...lol)

Good night:-)”

“is the thing to do to stand outside and spin it for her?

just wondering

;)”

“Guess what, boys?

Heather just called me. That was really her who posted earlier. She thinks you all are a riot.”

“Snafu, if you think you are, it's pretty certain that you are.”

“I dunno. Snafu waffles. Make it YOUR decision, bro.

dhutch... sorry, use the smiley next time. It's the net for cripes sake, I can't read your sly wink unless it's there. lol ;-)”

“EarthNsky - are you sure you are looking for a girl? I remember you said you don't want to have a relationship yet 'cause you still love your ex-girlfriend. If you are looking for someone, then it seems you are playing a game...um...”

“uhh ohhh!”

“whats the verse in that song?

"Best way to get over a lover is find another" LOL”

“word”

“No prob lizs. I just type fast in between working. I'm not really up on all of the internet protocol. 8-]

Guys, opening the door and helping the lady in also gives her time to adjust her, skirt/slack or whatever. In addition to unlocking the door, she may just be arranging a nicer view in appreciation.”

“Keep the dirty details from the other gender on this forum

Case study:

"EarthNsky - are you sure you are looking for a girl? I remember you said you don't want to have a relationship yet 'cause you still love your ex-girlfriend. If you are looking for someone, then it seems you are playing a game...um..."
wannaz
02:31:41 AM
06/18/04

Damage control for EarthNsky: "Well wana, I really like you a lot but as a friend. Obviously, I'm setting my GF standards to high because you are fantastic in every way. I said that about my ex because I didn't want to hurt your feelings. I know, it was stupid and I should have been upfront about it. Please forgive me.

EarthNsky - NEVER EVER talk about an ex to a female unless she asks directly. Keep it short and LIE if you still have feelings for the ex!

;)”