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And boy I don't want to go...leave tomorrow afternoon, all morning Thursday with the client and back to Memphis by 4PM CDST....I will spend almost as much time getting through the airports that I will be in ATL.
chili36
10:30:54 PM
4/30/02

I've heard Atlanta sucks.
steve hiker
10:36:48 PM
4/30/02

Driving through Atlanta sucks. I bet the airports do to.
walkindude
10:38:21 PM
4/30/02

ugh chili. glad it ain't me.

I'm not a big Atlanta fan stevehiker. Actually, the only big city I've ever really liked was Chicago.
bitpusher
10:39:33 PM
4/30/02

I have heard that the traffic in Hotlanta sucks from quite a few different people now. I guess it's not an exageration. How does it compare with LA?
Gear Slut
10:41:17 PM
4/30/02

St. Louis sucks too.
walkindude
10:41:41 PM
4/30/02

I don't think I've ever connected through Atlanta where I didn't have to either go from one end of the concourse to the other, or actually change concourses, to get to my connecting flight. At least when you change concourses, you get to ride the train part of the way.
bitpusher
10:42:37 PM
4/30/02

I had to do that in Dallas Ft. Worth once. That's a big @ss airport. We were running through the airport like OJ in the Hurtz commercials.
walkindude
10:48:22 PM
4/30/02

I know when I saw Phish down there driveing down there sucked!

8|
Crazy Mike Backpacks
10:51:09 PM
4/30/02

It's amazing that it's like a 18 lane interstate going through Atlanta and it still clogs up.
walkindude
11:04:02 PM
4/30/02

I get there at 7 (ATL time), traffic will probably still be a b!tch.

Yeah, wd, getting from one end of DFW to the other is a marathon. But I think Detroit is worse.
chili36
11:07:01 PM
4/30/02

GearSlut, the traffic in Atlanta isn't anywhere close to being as bad as the traffic in LA. But then, nothing is IMHO. However, I can see how it could be if they don't do something about it soon. It is worse than Dallas or San Francisco and at least as bad as Chicago. Does that help?
skullcap
5:53:26 AM
5/01/02

You think Atlanta is bad, you should have seen it before the redesigned/remodeled it.
Pathman
6:32:18 AM
5/01/02

No kidding, and the planners didn't think far enough ahead.
humanpackmule
7:14:43 AM
5/01/02

oh great...airport nightmare stories. What timing! I am flying through there this Sunday, Philly en route to Kansas City. yeeehaw
AmyG
7:15:00 AM
5/01/02

I guess you could say Atlanta is the LA of the south.
humanpackmule
7:15:14 AM
5/01/02

Hey just hope it doen't sprinkle rain while you are driving, it's like bumper cars on an ice rink. I alway try to pass through Atlanta either in the late afternoon or very eary morning. Remember you are in the land of Bubba, and the cops love a speeder, I got busted once for doing 5 mph over the posted speed coming into the city.
But on the positive side check out Stone Mountain for hiking and the LAZER show is fantastic, might as well make lemmonaid if you are handed lemmons.
pemsit
7:49:45 AM
5/01/02

I remember hearing that even while they were building the new interstates through Atlanta, they knew then that it wouldn't be enough.

If I'm going through Atlanta, I try to avoid obvious rush hours.

They do one thing there that's pretty smart, I think. During the rushes, the major intersections have cops there directing traffic instead of relying on the traffic signals. This allows a human to make routing decisions on the spot, plus it eliminates gridlock because people don't pull on into the intersection unless the cop lets them.
bitpusher
8:09:04 AM
5/01/02

There is only one good thing about Atlanta: It is about an hour from the mountains of north Georgia--beautiful!
gearjunkie
8:11:39 AM
5/01/02

Work is work! Non-work or under-utilization leaves one envious.
nowslimmer
8:26:10 AM
5/01/02

And it gets closer to the mountains all the time. What's the latest word on the building of another perimeter?

Just out of curiosity, Pemsit, what do they call the 'Bubbas' in your neighborhood?
Tilt
8:34:39 AM
5/01/02

raddygast would have plenty to say on this! if he was cool enough to post here more than once in a blue moon, that is ;-)
lyra
8:45:37 AM
5/01/02

Yeah, he's too rad to hang out with the likes of us anymore...
Tilt
8:52:22 AM
5/01/02

rad? more like aghast at OUR coolness...

;-P

hehe.
lyra
8:58:33 AM
5/01/02

Huh?!
Hartsfield Airport is a marvel in itself. As HUGE as it is, the traveler has to walk <1000' from any point to another. The train transports more people daily than San Fran's rapid rail system.

And the freeways? Dude! Gimme a car! I LOVE driving the freeways here. If you don't like the way we drive - gettafuh outta the way!!!Get over there in the far right lane with the puppies (ya wimps!).

I've driven through every major metropolis in America - except the Left Coast. I usually have to give lessons from my Driving 101 curriculum.

Some of you folks are revealing yer inadequatecies(sp?). LOL!
gojo
9:31:49 AM
5/01/02

note to self: get out of the way when being approached by a fast moving vehicle bearing a TT sticker.
chili36
9:43:58 AM
5/01/02

Tilt, we have Bubba's and Bubbuettes here, they are the same world over.
pemsit
9:46:14 AM
5/01/02

The outer Perimeter...
Or, as it is being billed:
The Northern Arc (that's where they want to begin).

Our Gov'nuh has sidestepped the Feds so's he doesn't hafta jump thru all those EPD hoops. It will be built with state funds, and paid for by tolls (prolly).

I saw on The News Hour (PBS) last night that where the Arc terminates in Gwinnett Co. (at I-85/I-985) is gonna be the center of a New Metropolis the size of Boston.

The News Hour had an interesting, in depth report about ATLs growth woes. It was perty kewl.

Metro ATL has essentially reached the mountains.

By 2025, ATLs population will be equal to Manhattan's - about 7 million (?).

Rad lives in the northern burbs, and I live in the southern burbs. We both live in "Atlanta", but it's a 1-1/2 hour drive between us (in the best traffic conditions). Best traffic conditions means being able to cruise at 75 mph along the freeways.

Can you say "NASCAR"?
Goooooooooood times!
gojo
10:10:25 AM
5/01/02

gojo, where is a good place for dinner in or around Marietta? Anywhere for music and a beer or two? I have wheels, but anything within a $20 taxi ride is open game.
chili36
10:14:16 AM
5/01/02

stone mtn is very cool, but also very developed. you can hike to the top of the monolith, good views, then take the cable car down.
jmitch
10:28:37 AM
5/01/02

What kind of food do you want Chili? I live about 25 minutes from Marietta, so I can help ya.
The Great White Sherpa
11:39:27 AM
5/01/02

Dat's what I'm a-sayin, Pemsit. We have no exclusive contract in this vicinity.

Hey, GJ... they just talked about it on the NewsHour? Sorry I missed it. For Atlanta's sprawl to be on that program, I think they may have been using the situation to illustrate the greater problem, nationally, hmmmm?

Just think... before too long folks will be able to walk across the street from their high-rise and stroll right into Cohutta. I can't say I'm too thrilled at the prospect.

BTW, the custom in Atlanta is that the far left lane goes 70-80. The far RIGHT lane alternates between 60 and 95, depending on exactly which car you're talking about (when traffic is moving, <G>). You ought to try I-95 from Richmond into DC. It's positively hair-raising. So are the double deadly S-curves as the Beltway passes near the exits to Great Falls. White Knuckle Time For Sure! (again, when the traffic is moving, <VBG>)
Tilt
12:10:47 PM
5/01/02

Chili -
Marietta is a short drive from everything that is anything.

I had a girlfriend that moved there some years ago, and I spent alot of time between there and Roswell. We "partied" at a pub near where she lived, and at the town square. The square has a number of trendy eateries and watering holes.

Cobb Parkway has a few places.

Roswell Rd (Hwy 120 east) is long and populated. There are numerous places along that route.

I haven't spent much time there since the early/mid 90's, tho...
gojo
12:27:06 PM
5/01/02

I might have to visit the square gojo. I am sure I can find something along Roswell Rd.

GWS, not too particular,,,always look for the "out of the ordinary" when I am on the road.
chili36
12:33:56 PM
5/01/02

This is kindof different. What can I say? I lean toward the continental. They were way ahead of their time with the marinated vodkas.

I wonder how the Medaillons de Chevreuil en Compote de Figues et Pleurottes would do in the dehydrator?
Tilt
1:32:47 PM
5/01/02

Pleurottes don't dehydrate worth a d@mn.















I'm completely full of #&%!$. I have no idea what a pleurotte is.
bitpusher
1:36:55 PM
5/01/02

maybe I should have qualified the statement,,,,,,I like the out of the ordinary that I won't get my @ss chewed about when I put it on an expense report......after my trip to Vegas last week, I am out of BS excuses about entertaining clients and providers.....
chili36
1:39:24 PM
5/01/02

Tilt
That spot on the Newshour was part of what they're calling a new occasional feature that's going to illustrate what kinds of things shape our lives here in America. Or something to that effect.
skullcap
1:45:55 PM
5/01/02

chili36 - For expense account problems, contact me if you want some help. I used to have a reputation for testing the system, expecially on expense accounts. On one trip, for example, after leaving Japan, I had three rental cars on the return to Melbourne, Florida (in Honolulu, Chicago and Orlando). That included renting a car at Midway and dropping it at O'Hare. And when they could not figure out my Air Line ticket stub, they awarded me about $1,150 extra for the return flight. I, of course, tried to correct it, but they said that their books were closed.

I have even submitted expenses for climbing Mt. Fuji. Included taxi's, buses, trains, food and lodging in a shelter near the top, maps, a newspaper and tips.

IRS likes my accounting, too. They have gone after me 9 times in about 22 years. I have won every time, including twice in court. (Don't give the IRS a penny more than is legally due.)
nowslimmer
3:01:31 PM
5/01/02

Me neither! (Moi non plus!) That's why I've got this anti-god device hooked up to the 'net.

It appears to be a 'shroom of some sort.




Oh well... maybe next trip, Chili.
I know we can count on nowslimmer to push the edge of the envelope, <G>.

Yes, Skully, I was wondering why they would do a story specifically on Atlanta...
Tilt
4:43:57 PM
5/01/02

About the 'chevreuil'... Well, a 'chevre' is a goat, I think... and a 'chevrolet' is a small goat... but isn't a 'goat' a Pontiac?
Tilt
4:49:24 PM
5/01/02

Atlanta has a "me too" complex. It wants to be another New York or Chicago or L.A. It's the capitol of the "Empire State of the South." (Georgia's motto)

To get there, Atlanta lures northern corporations and engages in unbridled growth (sprawl). Yuk

It shows in other ways too. Remember after 911, how those loons in Atlanta were jumping up and down begging for a terrorist attack? They can't feel important unless they have everything their idol NY has. But they'll never make it. Atlanta is destined to become another Houston -- a hot, ugly, sprawling mass of unzoned concrete and air pollution.
steve hiker
5:35:46 PM
5/01/02

Chicago and New York are the only "real" cities in the U.S. Everything else is "country."

Sorry to some of you folks. I'm just telling it as it is.

Imitations are not the real McCoy.
nowslimmer
6:11:54 PM
5/01/02

I never had any problems in Atlanta. Traffic was not bad. The humidity is horrific, but the women are beautiful.
bacpac
6:18:28 PM
5/01/02

Funny, how to some people some cities have to be 'better' than others. To me, concrete is concrete --- wherever it is.
Tilt
6:28:02 PM
5/01/02

did someone say "beer"?

i know where it is, and i'm going to go get it, tomorrow!
radagast
6:29:13 PM
5/01/02

Yeah, Welcome to Atlanta, jack and hammer and vogues'
Back to the mackin' and jackin' the clothes, adolescent packin a fo'
A knock on the do', who is it?
I would happen to know, the one with the flow
Who did it?, it was me I suppose
J-D in the Rollz and Luda's in the Cutt Supreme
Skatin down old Nat, Gat tooked and lean
I split ya spleen, as matter' fact I split ya team
No blood on the sneak's, gotta keep it so my kicks is clean
I get the cream, cops see me flick my beams
Im allergic to 'doc perscribed anti-histemines
Oink Oink, Pig Pig, do away with the pork
Only siguar needs a steak knife and a fork
Did you forget your #&%!$in manners, Im loose with banners
Ludacris, Johnny Rockets when i shoot the cannon
The Wooley mammoth saber-tooth, #&%!$ bite your tounge
I wont stop until Im rich as them white-boy come
I pull up in the black Lotus, you're plaque's are bogus
So I stripped them off the wall
Waiting for my cue to corner pocket eight balls
You rackin' 'em up, Im big paper like pancakes, stackin' 'em up
In fact Im slappin' 'em up, Cadallacin' the truck
I cant loose with 22"s, #&%!$ thats whats up
Runnin in the back the #&%!$, runnin better than aquaduct
chil-li-li-li-li-n.. what

Yo, Yo.. Yo..Yo, Yo,
Welcome to Atlanta where the playas play
And we ride on them things like every day
Big beats, hit streets, see gangsta's roamin'
And parties dont stop til' eight in the mornin'

Welcome to Atlanta where the playas play
And we ride on them things like every day
Big beats, hit streets, see gangsta's roamin'
And parties dont stop til' eight in the mornin'

Now the party dont start 'til I walk in
And I usually dont leave until the thing ends
But in the mean-time, in between time
You work yo thing, I'll work mine
I been puttin' it down here since 83'
Since the late show MD rivalry
More froze than bad ice, with a place to be
If you was ridin, you was ballin to homie Shadi
Im the MBP, Most Ballernous Player
Make my own rules, #&%!$ call me the mayor
Monday night, Gentlemen's Club
Tuesday night, Im up in the velvet room, gettin #&%!$ed up
Wednesday, Im at strokers on lean
Thursday, jump clean, and I fall up in cream
Friday, shark bar Kaya with Frank Skeem, right on the floor is where you can find me
Saturday, is off the heezy fo' sheezy, you can find me up in one-tweezy
Sunday, is when i get my sleepin'
Cause on Monday we be at it again, Holla!


off tha HEEEZY fo' SHEEEZY!!!
radagast
6:40:25 PM
5/01/02

nowslimmer, I need you for my tax advice......I don't even complete my own returns....

They turned me loose here with a Ford Taurus,,,,,,looked exactly like the company car that got totaled earlier this year. I drove like Mark Martin to get to Marietta. Driving in ATL is better than Chicago, getting through the airport was ok. Getting to the rental car was a #&%!$.
chili36
1:23:19 AM
5/02/02

.'nowslimmer, I need you for my tax advice......I don't even complete my own returns.'
chili36

It would be a pleasure to try to help you.

My experience has been that it pays to study tax law and the yearly changes. Reading Publication 17 is a yearly must. Very few accountants and tax preparers can keep up with all the things that each individual taxpayer needs.

Recently, an accountant tried to convince me to accept his tax service. He backed off when I told hin that one year I had filed "single head of household with my wife as a deductible dependent and my income reduced 50% due to community property laws." And my wife paid no tax as a non-resident alien with no US source income.

Naturally, you realize that you do not want to use me as the "preparer." You will be audited if they see my name at the bottom of your 1040. They do maintain a "hit" list. You must save everything, receipts, bills, checkbook stubs, etc. I use tax deductible, large, plastic storage boxes. (And don't forget the expense of getting the boxes. You paid your son or neighbor $10. $15 to go to the store.) You can probably cancel your trash service.

"Getting to the rental car was a #&%!$." - Need more details. I had no trouble there a few years ago, except that Hertz gave me the keys to the wrong car.

Don't miss any opportunity. Last year my entire summer backpacking trip was tax deductible. My cardiologist had ordered me to go again!
nowslimmer
6:49:57 AM
5/02/02

Chili -
Where you be stayin'?
gojo
8:13:51 AM
5/02/02

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