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XL - I've had back experiences similar to those experienced by those posting. Mine started years and years ago, but manifested as chronically recurring l-s strains. Due to my young age, I was generally assymptomatic after a few days. At the age of 50, after I'd been retired for a couple of years, I had one serious episode that resulted in my left leg becoming sort of tingly numb and with shooting "fire" pains into my toes. I agree with Arclite that it has a lot to do with core strength and the aging process. While on active duty I played basketball almost every day and this kept my weight down and, perhaps, somewhat helped my core strength. During this same time I was going to college full time and exercise just wasn't happening. I grew fat and continued the same miserable exisence.

During my AT thruhike in '05 I lost 30 pounds and my back was never an issue during the entire trip. As I not so slowly regained the weight following my return, the symptoms recurred. Slowly it got worse, eventually resulting in me undergoing a diskectomy at l-5, s-1 in November of last year. I was wheeled into the OR at 1:00 pm in a hospital 85 miles south of where I live. By 8:30 the same night I was watching t.v. in my home. The next morning I was at my favorite coffee shop by 7:30 and walked 2 miles that afternoon and 4 miles the next day. The pain was instantly gone although the numbness remains down my thigh and into my toes of my left lower extremity. Stretching and core exercises are vital to my continued recovery. Maintained weight loss would also be great...if I could figure a way to do it without cutting down on my eating:)

Today I work shuttling canoes, which means I must climb up and down 4-tiered trailers and figure out how to get canoes all the way up to the top tier. It ain't pretty, but I get the job done. I also cut and split my own firewood.

My whole point to this rambling bit of drivel is to suggest that you not be afraid of surgery. I put up with much, much more pain than I needed to over the years. When the surgeon saw my CT scan he wanted to do the surgery the next day. I stalled for a week to get things straight at home and then jumped into it. I only wish I'd done it sooner. Good luck.
Nimblefoot
5:54:17 AM
8/17/07

more about Bill Plante ...

Admitting it was "smart-assed," CBS News White House correspondent Bill Plante nonetheless defended his now-infamous "If he's so smart, how come you lost Congress?" quip from Monday's White House South Lawn ceremony with President Bush to officially announce Karl Rove's resignation. Interviewed by CBSNews.com's "Public Eye" blogger Matthew Felling, Plante did concede that he welcomes scrutiny of how the press functions, especially in live press conference settings. Said Plante at the open of his interview: "Anytime you challenge or appear to challenge the President -- and I don't care if the President is a Republican or a Democrat -- there are people who will take issue with it and tell you it's inappropriate. And you kind of expect that. I knew that was I did on Monday was smart-assed, but I think that that's beside the point." - MRC

No bill, that IS the point.
Sarge
6:46:32 AM
8/17/07

Arc...Abs of STEEL?....THAT explains alot...Dammmmn I have been looking for Abs of Stihl...couldn't find it in the Chainsaw Aisle (LOL)

If you guess on this fuego I have chosen NOT TO PLAY (LOL)

Went to the doc this morning....new guy pretty good...he had some massage thing where he...(let me remember this)

He put his right hand on my right shoulder and massaged my "lower regions" with his left index fing....no wait he had his Left Hand on my left shoulder while he massaged my ....wait just a minute...His left hand was on my left shoulder...and his right hand was on my right..THAT SON OF A B*tch.... (LOL) sorry old joke.


Actually I am having spasms in my lower back (NO KIDDING THANKS DOC) he wants me to keep doing the exercises and take a weeks worth of some meds (nothing that will knock me out of action).

Apparently he does not like me...when he told me to take some time off I explained I work nights on call...(LOL)
XL400236
6:55:51 AM
8/17/07

Ha Ha
http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_247203227.html


Security, Stability In Iraq 'Improved'
StoveStomper
6:17:07 PM
9/04/07

Well ofcourse now more than ever we need to surrender (LOL)
XL400236
6:30:10 PM
9/04/07

Coming from the perky one, no less. ;-)
StoveStomper
6:32:11 PM
9/04/07

WOW....


ON the libbies in the Media...here is a neat study

http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/page.asp?RelNum=6664

And guess who says Fox is most reliable

http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/news/opeds/2002/jones_fox_mainstream_nyt_120202.htm

YEP...and I quote

Leslie H. Gelb, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations, watches international news obsessively, skipping from channel to channel. "I never watch a commercial," he said.

He now considers Fox News Channel often to be a more reliable news source for international reporting than CNN or the nightly network news. Fox, he said, provides a "fairer picture, a fuller version of the different parts of the arguments" over world affairs.
XL400236
5:42:15 AM
9/06/07

who needs a study when you have hacks like these?
hikerboy
7:53:32 AM
9/06/07

Gee, HB, how many time you going to post that thing. You afraid someone might miss it?
NoProb
7:56:57 AM
9/06/07

The truth stings like the twist of a cold dull knife.
uncliff
8:03:51 AM
9/06/07

He always was a one trick pony but, dang, even I feel embarrassed for him a little. LOL!
Nigal
8:05:45 AM
9/06/07

That last time was enough that he joined another 2 on the ignore list. These guys that seem like they're posting from grandma's basement are easy to feel embarrassed for.
Sarge
8:12:05 AM
9/06/07

Gee, HB, how many time you going to post that thing. You afraid someone might miss it?

not at all. it just goes so well with all the current shades of fuego.

He always was a one trick pony but, dang, even I feel embarrassed for him a little. LOL

agreed. XL is a true dolt.
hikerboy
8:13:27 AM
9/06/07

These guys that seem like they're posting from grandma's basement are easy to feel embarrassed for

you still posting from grandpa's lap? careful now, that isn't a gearshift.
hikerboy
8:15:27 AM
9/06/07

I sure hope Larry Craig gets back in the Senate so he can 'right' a law against this obvious Miss Use of the First Amendment.
uncliff
9:42:52 AM
9/06/07

Why is Vile such a coward?
StoveStomper
10:15:46 AM
9/06/07

I love it when immigrants come here and then criticize everything. The last great achievement Hikerboy's country gave mankind was Super Dave Osborn.
Nigal
10:52:52 AM
9/06/07

StoveStomper
10:56:16 AM
9/06/07

LOL.....Vile has always been a coward, when he gets beat his little troll comes out...

The libby lines are crashing down...and they know it.
XL400236
1:17:40 PM
9/06/07

More Biased Journalism Could Stop Global Warming, Journalist Says
Editor & Publisher columnist says newspapers should abandon objectivity to fight global warming.

By Jeff Poor and Amy Menefee
Business & Media Institute
9/6/2007 11:19:39 AM


Just when you thought the media couldn’t be any more egregious than they already were with their reporting when it comes global warming, they’ve taken it to an all-time low.



Longtime Editor & Publisher columnist Steve Outing is calling on newspapers to abandon objective reporting when it comes to the issue of climate change – instead, to use their power for advocacy.



“I’ve also been thinking about the newspaper industry and global warming. And frankly, I don't think newspapers are doing enough,” Outing wrote. “Indeed, newspapers’ fabled commitment to ‘objectivity’ has been a detriment to efforts to combat global warming.”



That’s really a frightening thing to see in a trade journal about the nuances of journalism. But it’s not terribly surprising considering media coverage of climate change has flip-flopped for decades between global warming and global cooling, with equal intensity.



And plenty of journalists are ahead of Outing, as they have taken to likening anyone who disagrees with them to Holocaust “deniers.”



Take Newsweek’s August story about the “denial machine,” its name for those who dare question massive policy changes based on global warming fearmongering. It was so over the top that Newsweek ran a column by Robert Samuelson calling out the reporters in its very next issue.



“Unfortunately, self-righteous indignation can undermine good journalism,” Samuelson wrote.



But that’s what Outing advocated – pursuing whatever journalists deem righteous.



“The industry still has a lot of power to influence people,” wrote Outing. “How about if newspapers abandon their old way of doing things when it comes to the issue of global warming, and turn their influence to good? It just might be that through this issue alone, newspapers revive themselves to some extent. Editors are shirking their responsibility to improve our world, in my view, so let's change that.”



Outing wrote that he failed to see how this could be controversial, “except to fringe groups who inevitably will paint it as ‘liberal conspiracy.’”



Well, it would require journalists to throw out the Society of Professional Journalists Code of Ethics, which is already scarce in climate coverage. Among its stated principles, journalists are supposed to:



Distinguish between advocacy and news reporting.
Support the open exchange of views, even views they find repugnant.
Examine their own cultural values and avoid imposing those values on others.
http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2007/20070906111121.aspx
StoveStomper
1:33:49 PM
9/06/07

I'm a coward XL? #&%!$ you you little #&%!$!

I was working today. Like most days. You should try it sometime.
VioLiN
6:20:07 PM
9/06/07

XL is a mouthy little runt, Violin.
MarkO
6:25:57 PM
9/06/07

I keep trying to tell XL and SS that Hikerboy is not Violin and he is real.
Nigal
2:10:23 AM
9/07/07

I was working today. Like most days. You should try it sometime.”
VioLiN
6:20:07 PM
9/06/07

If you call searching for gay porn all day work.
bacpac
2:18:39 AM
9/07/07

ROTFLAMO...sorry Vile....NOT!

Well Hikerboy will come out again we can be assured of it. Nigal this clown is not the Gentleman from the past it is a new troll....The other chap was from Canada..this one is NOT.
XL400236
5:17:06 AM
9/07/07

A new troll who has been a member since 8/8/01?

Great investigative skills there Sherlock.
VioLiN
5:44:25 AM
9/07/07

Do the taxpayers know you are using their computers to defame strangers while on the clock?

Didn't think so.
VioLiN
6:02:38 AM
9/07/07

An anomaly of nature? all of you young ladies are be blessed by the moon at once?
uncliff
6:09:17 AM
9/07/07

lets hear it for
XL400236....fire investigator. goverment employee. web surfer. spinner of tall tales from world war 2. part time detective (that must be why people call him a dick, right?). defender of all things conservative.









BWAHAHAHAHA!
hikerboy
6:57:05 AM
9/07/07

Vile sure gets testy when 'outted', doesn't it
?
StoveStomper
7:00:45 AM
9/07/07

says the guy with multiple logins. you are limpy, aren't you?








BWAHAHAHAHA!
hikerboy
7:04:32 AM
9/07/07

“Do the taxpayers know you are using their computers to defame strangers while on the clock?

Didn't think so.”
VioLiN
8:02:38 AM
9/07/07


Woooooooooooooo....
XL, better be scared, he might threaten to tell your boss about posting on 'company time' (which they do, but THAT'S OK) like ol' tiltypoo, or threaten to cry to mommy! Big men, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
StoveStomper
8:07:53 AM
9/07/07

Hsu who?
StoveStomper
10:23:40 AM
9/07/07

God bless you.
Sarge
10:25:06 AM
9/07/07

Sherlock , maybe ,doesn't investigate under skirts, just kilts.
uncliff
10:30:55 AM
9/07/07

Vile baby...I am a taxpayer and as their representative I have turned the case over to myself for investigation....I will get back to you in due time


OR....(I love this) Thank you sir for your suggestion I will promptly file it for review and give it the requisite attention.
XL400236
10:59:05 AM
9/07/07

*snicker*
StoveStomper
11:23:43 AM
9/07/07

Hey XLax, Montana(HikerBoy) is not in Canada.
MarkO
2:06:56 PM
9/07/07

QUICK QUESTION:

What's the easiest way to get a nice long segment on 60 minutes?

(hint: presume to be impartial, then criticize __________.)
last edited: 9/16/07 7:10:07 PM
Sarge
7:22:22 PM
9/16/07

Why did they wait 4 FREAKING DAYS?
9-11 anniversary delayed info

PUBLISHED: September 16, 2007

On Tuesday, a nation honored those whose lives were lost during the tragic events of Sept. 11, 2001. [b][i]But four days prior to the anniversary of the deadly terrorist attacks, a Wayne State medical student had city officials hoping that the event would not be marred by more bloodshed.


Houssein Zorkot, 26, was arrested Sept. 8 after he was observed wielding an AK-47 semi-automatic assault rifle in Hemlock Park, a popular destination for many Dearborn residents.

Zorkot, who is of Lebanese descent, was arraigned Tuesday in 19th District Court — the same day city officials sent out a press release about an event that had happened four days prior, and one day after the Press & Guide had contacted city officials seeking comment.

According to Dearborn Mayor "Jack" O"Reilly, Jr., the release of information about the case was delayed until after Zarkot's arraignment and late in the day that marked the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. City officials feared that announcing the arrest of an armed Arabic man so close to anniversary of the attack would stir anti-Muslim sentiments and fan the flames of terrorism.

"We didn't want this to become more than it is," O'Reilly said. "There are certain things that the media latches onto, and this would have turned into a story about terrorism. That's not the kind of tone we want to set."

Zorkot has not been identified as a terrorist and has yet to be associated with any terrorist group, O'Reilly said. He has been charged with multiple felonies for carrying a dangerous weapon.

— Sean Delaney[/i][/b]


Could this be he is a worshiper of the failed drunken child molester HO-Mohammed?

Is this responsible government? Is this responsible reporting?

I am betting if it was a wack job White Supremacist caught with a car load of TNT right before the OK city annivarsary it would have been plastered on the news.

But this is Michigan..the majority of the voters as a rule aren't going to change anything.
XL400236
5:34:29 AM
9/18/07

It's been interesting to follow the non-story about the discount MoveOn got for the now legendary Betreaus ad. Anytime you'd like to do the same, all you have to do is set up a Google News Alert and you get an email when stories matching your search terms appear.

This is how it went:

Some rightwing blogs picked up the story that MoveOn had gotten a discount. The NY Post printed a one-sided smear story. American Spectator repeated it. Fox reprinted in on their website. The Times debunked it. Advertising Age completely debunked it. [MoveOn got the standard discount ANY advocacy group, including VoteForRudy, would get for that category of ad]

O'Reilly spread the false story on Fox, and so did Brit Hume.

After all the noise Giuliani made about the alleged preferential discount.... There Is Not A Single Mention Of It On His Website.

Wonder why.... LOL

USA Today reports he got the same standard discount he so stridently demanded.


If you'd like an 'inside baseball' view of how this sort of thing is played within present-day presidential campaigns, read this piece by former Giuliani campaign advisor Patrick Ruffini.

The whole MoveOn rhubarb was another fundraising opportunity --- for both sides. And when you're "cashing in on the outrage," timing is everything.


But for God's sake --- don't depend on blogs (or outlets who repeat the rumors and outright lies from blogs). Your own credibility will suffer.
Tilt
9:46:59 AM
9/18/07

But for God's sake --- don't depend on blogs (or outlets who repeat the rumors and outright lies from blogs). Your own credibility will suffer.”
Tilt
11:46:59 AM

Ol' tiltypoo never listens to his own advice.
StoveStomper
10:11:25 AM
9/18/07

StoveStomper
10:55:51 AM
9/18/07

Hey, Adm.Fallon, Tell us about this Gen. Betrayus?
uncliff
11:15:24 AM
9/18/07

50bps and 50bps.
uncliff
11:16:56 AM
9/18/07

So, I went over to CBS's site, cos they're the big guns against controversial conflicts of interest, and I wanted to read about Norman Hsu, since he was Hillary Clinton's main guy (and she is being touted by them as somebody raking in the money).

Front page ... nothing?

Ah, let's check out the politics section ... not a word?

Maybe the weekend crew forgot to update the site?
Sarge
7:28:07 AM
9/22/07

So, I went over to the Fox News (sic) site, cos I wanted to read about Sen Ted Stevens - the Senator who knowingly took bribes and was secretly tape recorded by the FBI (which you have to admit is far worse than not adequately checking the background of your campaign contributors).

Front page ... nothing?

Well there was a link way down on the politics page.

Maybe the weekend crew forgot to update the site?

BTW - there was nothing there about Hsu there either... maybe because it is a non-story?


So then I came back to Trail Talk to check in on the right wing rage about yet another of their own being caught red-handed with his hand in the cookie jar.

Not a peep?

Maybe they just don't give a crap about public corruption.
VioLiN
11:30:31 AM
9/22/07

Sadly, no rightwing ragefest, but I *did* update the Republican Party Ethics thread last night.

I even added a bit of classic comic relief from Matt Groening ---
Tilt
12:00:19 PM
9/22/07

Violin
Well there was a link way down on the politics page.

LMAO!

BTW - there was nothing there about Hsu there either... maybe because it is a non-story?

Not true. I checked there too at the same time, and it was there, right on the Politics page. Still is there as of this post.

POLITICS Headlines

* Student Newspaper Under Fire for Bush Editorial
* Transcript: President Bush's Radio Address
* Transcript: Democratic Response to Bush's Radio Address
* California Investment Firm Sues Norman Hsu
* Senate Blocks Effort to Bring U.S. Troops Home From Iraq
* Alaska Cancels 'Bridge to Nowhere' Project
* Fomer NBA Coach Versace to Seek Illinois Congressional Seat
* Connecticut Governor Bans Parole for Violent Offenders
* Bipartisan Group Plans to Buck Bush on SCHIP Bill
* Illinois Rep. Weller Won't Seek 8th Term
* Report: FBI Secretly Taped Sen. Ted Stevens in Corruption Probe
* 'God' Responds to Nebraska State Lawmaker's Lawsuit
* Force to Prevent Iranian President Visit to Ground Zero?
* Rep. King Under Fire For 'Too Many Mosques' Remark
Sarge
12:05:34 PM
9/22/07

Are you going to be taking a short vacation from trailtalk again Violin?
Sarge
12:06:23 PM
9/22/07

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