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unabashed poopers unite!!
I'm starting a new organization. I call it POOP-People Opposed to Overt Pooping

I think this whole bury your poop thing has gone WAY to far & I have decided that I'm gonna do something about it. I make my stand here, next to my poop, which is proudly on top of the soil. I will not hide my poop because I know that it is a natural & benificial process and I am not ashamed to admit it.
If your afraid of someone seeing your poop, you don't belong out in the wilderness. Stay in the city, where you can flush it & nobody will ever know that you poop too.

poop is natural, poop is good, not everybody does it, but everybody should
stratdewd
9:11:16 PM
6/04/02

I saw a bum pooping on the sidewalk once. It was pretty cool.
Artex
9:13:41 PM
6/04/02

For some reason this reminds me of the movie Trainspotting
biz
9:13:56 PM
6/04/02

lmfao arty! !
glad to say i never saw that one, biz!!
stratdewd
9:15:59 PM
6/04/02

But if you're Opposed to Overt Pooping...

nevermind.
Tilt
9:29:23 PM
6/04/02

Trainspotting is an awesome film.
newgirl
10:30:06 PM
6/04/02

Nuttin worse...
than a nekid poop....cover that thing up!
Wind Walker
11:57:21 PM
6/04/02

"I will not hide my poop because I know that it is a natural & benificial process and I am not ashamed to admit it."

Stop using your toilet, grab some rug and see if it's beneficial. ;)
Wind Walker
12:04:35 AM
6/05/02

the poop wouldn't bother me. the paper pisses me off though. don'tknow why. if you wipe with leaves or something and don't bury it you won't hear a word from me.
J0SH
1:38:36 AM
6/05/02

Spud!!!!! What a great scene!!! It still makes me laugh just thinking about that happening.


As for dukey, I normally just use my boot and any old stick to dig a hole to mineral soil. Once I am finished I'll burn the TP completely except for the soiled areas. Then it is covered with some moist dirt and kneaded with the stick to help break it down further before finally getting covered. Toss the stick, foot sweep some groundcover over the spot and go.

All of that can vary depending on the terrain.
Briar Rabbit
7:19:15 AM
6/05/02

Tilt...gimme a "C"! as in Covert.
lyra
7:37:57 AM
6/05/02

Nothing worse than walking down the trail and seeing a crap tower, complete with paper flag. YUK!!
laqtis
8:05:01 AM
6/05/02

not on the trail!
i agree, on the trail is ookie......oookie dookie. i go way off trail. anybody ever use that camo TP? i usually take baby wipes. i try to burn them after use, which is not a problem here, cuz you can have campfires.

we had a discussion on a dog thread about burying your hiking dog's baby ruth bars, to which i said , why not just flick it off into the woods wif a stick? last night, i took buckshot to my boys' little league game & ......you guessed it....he went #2 right in the front of the consession stand. it was one of those "emergency" poops. well, i was quite embarrased & yelled across the field for my wife to bring me some napkins. i couldnt leave cuz i had to guard the land mines from all the people walkin around. i piicked it all up & took it to the dumptster(took 3 trips). i was laughin to myself, thinkin bout this thread.
stratdewd
8:57:31 AM
6/05/02

not on the trail!
i agree, on the trail is ookie......oookie dookie. i go way off trail. anybody ever use that camo TP? i usually take baby wipes. i try to burn them after use, which is not a problem here, cuz you can have campfires.

we had a discussion on a dog thread about burying your hiking dog's baby ruth bars, to which i said , why not just flick it off into the woods wif a stick? last night, i took buckshot to my boys' little league game & ......you guessed it....he went #2 right in the front of the consession stand. it was one of those "emergency" poops. well, i was quite embarrased & yelled across the field for my wife to bring me some napkins. i couldnt leave cuz i had to guard the land mines from all the people walkin around. i piicked it all up & took it to the dumptster(took 3 trips). i was laughin to myself, thinkin bout this thread.
stratdewd
9:03:26 AM
6/05/02

CONSIDER THIS: You can be #&%!$ faced, be #&%!$ out of luck, or have #&%!$ for brains. With a little effort you can get your #&%!$ together, find a place for your #&%!$ or decide to #&%!$ or get off the pot. You can smoke #&%!$,buy #&%!$, sell #&%!$, lose #&%!$, find #&%!$, forget #&%!$, and tell others to eat #&%!$ and die. You can #&%!$ or go blind, have a #&%!$ fit or just #&%!$ your life away. People can be #&%!$ headed, #&%!$ brained, #&%!$ blinded, and #&%!$ over.

Some people know their #&%!$ while others can't tell the difference between #&%!$ and shineola. There are lucky #&%!$s, dumb #&%!$s, crazy #&%!$s, and sweet #&%!$s. There is bull #&%!$, and horse #&%!$ and chicken #&%!$. You can throw #&%!$,sling #&%!$, catch #&%!$, or duck when the #&%!$ hits the fan. You can take a #&%!$, give a #&%!$, or serve #&%!$ on a shingle. You can find yourself in deep #&%!$, or be happier than a pig in #&%!$. Some days are colder than #&%!$, some days are hotter than #&%!$, and some days are just plain #&%!$ty. Some music sounds like #&%!$, things can look like #&%!$, and there are times when you feel like #&%!$.

You can have too much #&%!$, not enough #&%!$, the right #&%!$, the wrong #&%!$ or a lot of weird #&%!$. You can carry #&%!$, have a mountain of #&%!$, or find yourself up #&%!$ creek without a paddle. Sometimes you really need this #&%!$ and sometimes you don't want any #&%!$ at all. Sometimes everything you touch turns to #&%!$ and other times you swim in a lake of #&%!$ and come out smelling like a rose.

#&%!$! When you stop to consider all the facts, it's the basic building block of creation. And remember, once you know your #&%!$, you don't need to know anything else.
stratdewd
9:16:23 AM
6/05/02

This whole thread is full of #&%!$.
gordon
10:27:30 AM
6/05/02

Thank you, Eric Cartman, LOL


Yes... 'Covert'... hmmmm.

But the resulting acronym ('POCP') does not roll mellifluously off the tongue...

(yuk)
Tilt
10:30:55 AM
6/05/02

true, true...unlike the word "mellifluously"! :-)
lyra
10:37:42 AM
6/05/02

:) Good morning all.
MaryPhyl
10:44:42 AM
6/05/02

Poor Spud!!! lol!!!
If all you do is cover your TP with a thin layer of dirt, animals can dig it up (why they would want to, I don't know) or a brisk shower can unearth it. For this reason, I pack it out (just roll it in a bit of clean TP, put it in a baggie and into your trash bag-it weighs nothing). As far as the other I usually find a big rock, move it (Walla-instant hole). Do the deed and replace the rock. It's faster than digging a hole.
biz
10:51:08 AM
6/05/02

Talk about mellifluous!
My old girlfriend (from the 80's) has something to offer on the subject:


aero
10:52:42 AM
6/05/02

Does that thing do your laundry while you're sittin' on the crapper?
Artex
10:53:45 AM
6/05/02

We have all had our childish fun with this scatological thread, but underneath is a serious topic. Most people do not know the best way to dispose of human waste in the woods. They tend to bury it too deep, where there is far less biological activity in the soil. One study in the Eagle Cap Wilderness found human excrement still identifiable and contained viable pathogens after two years. It was buried below the fermentation layer. Leaving it on the surface is not good either. It dries up rather than decomposes.

I sometimes wonder what grad student was so desperate for a summer job he actually agreed to dig these 'deposits' up, package them, and pack them back to the lab. How would you word that on a resume'.
gordon
10:54:17 AM
6/05/02

Yeah, but you can't leave your clothes in the dryer very long!
aero
10:55:00 AM
6/05/02

Field Crap Engineer

Extracted delicate biological samples from the field, transported them in an undisturbed and pristine manner, and characterized them using analytical techniques.
biz
11:14:18 AM
6/05/02

To ensure a representative sample, I thoroughly mixed each sample by hand, then extracted a random alliquot.

Ü
biz
11:17:14 AM
6/05/02

Crapology
How about a Peleocrapologist?
Samples of Holocene Age coprolite was extracted from the A Horizon soil surface exposure. Excrement was from a vertebrate mammal, larger than a fecal pellet, measuring approximately 20 cm in length, characterized by ovoid to elongate form, a surface marked by annular convolutions, and a brown to green color.
aero
11:25:08 AM
6/05/02

There is a thick blanket of pine needles, 6 to 8 inches deep, most places where I go backpacking. I bury my poo under about 3 inches of soil and then replace the 6 to 8 inch pine needle blanket. There are a lot of microbes and such at that depth, and man can they eat up some poo!!
tahoe
12:16:40 PM
6/05/02

Does that count as "feeding the wildlife"?

I'm going back this year and check some of the places I "layed pipe" last summer and see if the land survived. I can think of 3 or 4 spots on the Montanapoola hike that I could monitor.
aero
1:11:49 PM
6/05/02

LMFAOo0o0oOoOo0ooOOo
stratdewd
1:31:12 PM
6/05/02

I wonder if I could get some kind of federal grant to study that sort of thing. Help pay for the backpacking, ya know.

On second thought, maybe I should just take pictures of my "deposits" and submit them for an NEA grant. Probably more likely to get money from them.
bitpusher
3:22:39 PM
6/05/02

Mail it to the candidate of your choice as a 'campaign contribution'.
gordon
3:32:27 PM
6/05/02

That way it's tax deductible.
gordon
3:32:50 PM
6/05/02

Bitpusher- I'll take pictures this summer of last year's sites, but they're only the "after" photos. I didn't think to take a "before" shot! I'll send you the "before" pics of this year for the 2002-03 study!
aero
3:38:41 PM
6/05/02

If you can arrange it, it would be cool to study the deterioration of the fecal matter through the 4 seasons. That way it's more scientific, and if we arrange the pictures properly, it's artistic too!
bitpusher
3:48:13 PM
6/05/02

Organic geocaching
OK, we should have a GPS unit with us so we'll add another dimension to geocaching. This isn't a bad idea, actually. I know I can find the spots I used last year and check their progress. The seasons are pretty extreme up in the Beartooths so the decompostion is probably pretty far along. I imagine in more of a desert climate you'd see a lot of "mummification".
aero
4:01:38 PM
6/05/02

That's the only kind of "geocaching" I've ever done.

Never recorded the positions, though...
bitpusher
4:15:33 PM
6/05/02

surreal....and no thank you, I do not want a T-shirt relating to this thread.
LyndyS
5:11:35 PM
6/05/02

Aero, I'm dying! You crack me up! :-D
Artex
5:37:04 PM
6/05/02

well lemme tellya...
out here, in the ozark jungle, a good dookie log wont last 48 hrs. Dung beetles usually find it and start breaking it up within hours. Of corse the fly larve....ok, MAGGOTS help out alot too. Oh man, if bucky fins one, he claims it. He come runnin up the river one time with one in his mouth. Struttin all proud & triumphant. He was so happy.....never let him lick me again after that day.


I came, I pooped, I conquered....
stratdewd
8:06:56 PM
6/05/02

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