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Sometimes, even money can't buy a good defense. However, I am surprised at the verdict.
chili36
11:06:39 AM
6/07/02

Yeah, ain't that just a dam shame?
Geobeet
11:08:19 AM
6/07/02

Did you follow the trial or is your surprise more abstract?

It was a long time ago...tough to prove anything (in a legal sense) when the trail is so cold.
Fritz
11:08:51 AM
6/07/02

He shoulda faked a car wreck instead...
le Subtil
11:09:54 AM
6/07/02

Remember the floating Volkswagen ad?

"If he'd driven a Volkswagen, Teddy Kennedy would be President today."
aero
11:11:11 AM
6/07/02

Fritz, I followed the trial and felt that the circumstantial evidence and time would work for the defense. I didn't think that they could find "beyond a reasonable doubt" that he did it.

Of course, the appeals will now start.
chili36
11:14:33 AM
6/07/02

I thought you bleeding-heart liberals forgave any crime committed by democrat.
gordon
11:17:15 AM
6/07/02

No, we don't overlook crime, we just oppose witchhunts.
chili36
11:19:32 AM
6/07/02

So chili, you're a bleeding-heart liberal? :-)
Fritz
11:26:07 AM
6/07/02

afraid so....

but I tend to be very consistent in believing Constituional Liberties must be maintained,,,I am as opposed to gun control and much as I am opposed to restrictions of freedom of speech

In other words, I believe you have a right to be armed while you burn the flag.
chili36
11:29:17 AM
6/07/02

I listened to a book on tape called "A Season in Purgatory" which was a bout the Moxley case although I didn't know it at the time. In the novel, he goes free.
Violin
11:44:14 AM
6/07/02

I always thought he probably did it, but that he shouldn't have been tried as an adult. What's going to be more interesting is the penalty phase.
bitpusher
11:49:28 AM
6/07/02

What gordon said is either a stupid joke or just more pathological monkey $hit.

I'm a fan of the U.S. Constitution too.

And please, have the good sense to stand up-wind when you burn that flag.

And always keep your weapon pointed down-range whether loaded or not.
Tom Terrific
12:26:35 PM
6/07/02

"No, we don't overlook crime, we just oppose witchhunts."
chili36
11:19:32 AM
06/07/02


Actually, dems oppose witchhunts against dems. They fully support and encourage witchhunts against repubs.
gordon
12:32:02 PM
6/07/02

Wrong again, Jasper.
Tom Terrific
1:37:07 PM
6/07/02

i feel the prosecution met its burden of proof, obviously enough to go to a jury. i'm satisfied with the verdict and am confident skakel is guilty of the charges.

when a case is that old, all you're going to have is circumstantial evidence, it doesn't mean the prosecution can't prove its case. skakel shouldn't be permitted to hide his crime under layers of time.
jmitch
2:02:44 PM
6/07/02

I thought his defense was weak. Although the burden of proof is on the state, you gotta have something going for you when even circumstantial evidence points your way. If he's innocent, the defense did a dam lousy job of it.
Geobeet
3:02:00 PM
6/07/02

Obviously a vast right-wing conspiracy against the Kennedys.
gordon
3:13:38 PM
6/07/02

Man that just shows ya all right there how nutty some people can be!

8|
Crazy Mike Backpacks
3:14:53 PM
6/07/02

Like I said before, the interesting part will be the penalty phase. Now, I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that if he had been caught 26 years ago, he'd have been sentenced to a juvie facility until his 18th birthday, and then probably turned loose. Not a lot of time to serve for a murder, but that's how it worked out back then a lot of the time. He tried to have his case decided in the juvenile system, but the judge denied that because the juvenile system "didn't have a place for a 41-year-old man". So it went into the regular, adult criminal system, where his lack of judgement as a "youthful offender" isn't being taken into consideration.

At this point, someone will no doubt pop up and state that if he had come forward and confessed at that time, then he wouldn't be facing this now. True, and if he had been my son, I'd have counseled him to confess. However, he didn't and according to the 5th Amendment, that's his right.

So my question at this point is, does he deserve more punishment now that he's an adult for something he did as a teenager, simply because he exercised his constitutional right to not incriminate himself? Or better yet, does he deserve more punishment because of the corruption or ineptness of the original investigators?
bitpusher
3:16:01 PM
6/07/02

The story I read said he could get 10 years to life. I don't know whether the judge could suspend part of it or not. But that is a good point. Reminiscent of another recent case where a woman convicted of murder escaped and was on the lam for 20 or 30 years. Had she stayed in the hoosgow, she would have been eligible for parole five years ago. Now's she has to serve a minimum of 16 years, which will undoubtedly be the rest of her life or close to it.
Geobeet
3:22:23 PM
6/07/02

hehe...i feel the need to climb a pine tree and masterbate.


*wigged out?...read the case*
OPIE
5:41:19 PM
6/07/02

I heard the author of "A Season in Purgatory" interviewed on a talk show the other day. Interesting. He talked about the "masturbating in the tree" alibi the guy used.

Quite a gruelling murder. They didn't suspect him for a long time.
Phil
5:59:50 PM
6/07/02

It has seemed to me that he is guilty, however it will surprise me if the verdict is not overturned. I think he could have found a better defense team.
Here is a question for g. gordon. How do you know that Skakel is a democrat? Have you followed him into the voting booth? He is related to someone who married into the Kennedy family. Pretty far stretch to be blaming the Kennedy's for this one, I think. They have their own sins to pay for. Let's allow the actions of this whacko stand on their own. Of course, I wouldn't want to ruin your pleasure in pointing to the Kennedy's as the root of all of your personal problems.
Dunadan
6:21:25 PM
6/07/02

who gives a $h1t?
stratdewd
7:09:53 PM
6/07/02

I'll bet Michael Skakel does, right now.
Dunadan
7:14:48 PM
6/07/02

towndawg is guilty of trying to get into my big fat panties.

His tits are bigger than mine.
bbw
7:36:09 PM
6/07/02

Did he have just cause?
AdakHiker
8:27:29 PM
6/07/02

You talkin''bout Town Dawg or Skakel? ;)
Father Goose
8:54:11 AM
6/08/02

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