BUSH SUCKS

“Listening to some of the conservative thinkers on this site makes me think that Rush Limbaugh should declare his candidacy.
Oh, I forgot, then he might actually have to debate someone.
Never mind.”

“but he'd debate anybody on the planet. they are scared to have him on network shows. don't make the mistake of thinking he is stupid. he's actually a very astute political commentator, and prognosticator.”

“Strat, my bro! I don't think he is unintelligent. I think the format of his show is geared only toward his pompous ranting. Have you ever heard him debate anyone besides low IQ winos on his show? Since he likes to degrade Daschle so frequently, I would love to see a televised debate between the two.”

“but dashle knows better and would NEVER agree to it. he would shred him to bits, it would be wickidly delicious.”

“Rush's "fact" finders would resign immediately upon learning that there was a serious debate looming.”

“I saw a tape where Limbaugh appeared without the audience being pre-screened and the Average Joes that walked up to the mic had him for a snack.

Don't even think of suggesting an actual debate; it would destoy your sandcastle.”

“I'm not thrilled with McCain's position or his rhetorical flourish at the end of that article (thanks Viol man for posting the link), but there is that refreshing air of honesty and consistency in what he says.

If McCain were president, I might agree with him less than I agreed with Clinton - but I would respect him more than I have respected any president in quite a while.”

“I'm not on the McCain bandwagon. That said, the real race in 2000 would have been Bradley - McCain.”

“I had hopes for Bradley at the begining, but the more I watched him the lamer he seemed. By primary day, I just didn't see much difference between him and Gore. (the gap between McCain and Bush seemed pretty huge... they looked like Bentsen and Quayle when put side by side - the only thing that made Bush look good was Forbes - who came off as the most cynical jerk in the whole flock of candidates that started out that year)”

“OMG!”

“Yes, Bradley didn't stand his ground. Tragic. Had he stuck to his guns, the US might have had a chance to witness a real debate between conservative progressives and liberal progressives.”

“like pedy said, ,he looked ok for a minute, but his true colors came through in the end. bush was actually one of the more moderate candidates in my view. i dun want no extreme right winger any more than ya'll did(bucannon).”

“That guy and David Duke ought to form a new party and run on that ticket. Then if they win any states, we know where to send the national guard.”

“When McCain first ran in Arizona we thought him a carpetbagger. Then he got messed up in that iforgethisname thing with the savings and loan. That really seemed to shake him--he had not thought of himself as being a greedy grabby guy just like everyone else. Anyway, he changed after that and became a much more thoughtful person.”

“Well, we can all agree on one thing. Bush spent more money on his campaign than anyone it the history of the US.”

“Yes, MP. I think the Charles Keating episode woke him up in a major way. I remember him saying to his fellow Senators, "Look out folks, it could happen to you tomorrow."


There was a report I saw just the other day (sorry, no references, <grin>)... and according to those particular numbers, Bush had raised as much cash in 50 events as Clinton did in 200.

I wondered if they allowed for inflation?”

“Daddy's friends are rich.”

“President George Bush vowed at the morning Pentagon commemoration(9-11-02),
"What happened to our nation on a September day set in motion
the first great struggle of a new century. The enemies who
struck us are determined and they are resourceful. They will
not be stopped by a sense of decency or a hint of conscience --
but they will be stopped."”

“"They will
not be stopped by a sense of decency or a hint of conscience --
but they will be stopped."
stratdewd
06:05:09 PM
09/15/02


Hmmm so what we need is a leader without either???

More to the point, these people (terrorists, including suicide bombers) are driven by a sense of decency and by conscience - but rather perverted ones. They sacrifice everything for their principles - the problem is not lack of principle, but the horrible nature of their principles. If these were merely people without decency or conscience they could be bought or bullied.

Fanatics are more dangerous than simple ammoral thugs. Sadam Hussein may be an immoral thug without decency or conscience, but Osama Bin Laden was/is more dangerous than that.”

“What is scarier than an enemy you know??

An enemy that shakes your hand and smiles at you...

the Wahabi Islamic movement being spread to the world through Saudi Arabia (with the assistance of U.S. dollars) is what allowed 9/11 to happen. Saddam is a threat, but Bush is treating Saudi as a pure ally when there is ugly stuff under the surface. I think this is going on because there is such a nice business partnership between the Saudi Royal family and U.S. Oil companies”

“well, now they say(the saudis) we can use their air bases. their all gonna jump on board now. even the democrats here at home will suddenly be all for it(poll driven-70% of amrerica says kick husein's a$$) they were trtying to delay it till after the fall elections, but bush played their hand. they will , no doupt try to spin things in a way to make it look like their idea. party over principals.




Fanatics are more dangerous than simple ammoral thugs. Sadam Hussein may be an immoral thug without decency or conscience, but Osama Bin Laden was/is more dangerous than that."


ped, who is more dangerous....the fanatic, ,or the thug who gives the fanatic all the tools he needs?”

“Typical democrats...

As with Mr. Clinton... it's all about the polls...”

“bring back

Thats My Bush



what a very funny show it was. Im glad I got them all on tape.”

“The flip side of that 70% polling number, Strat, is how quickly support for engagement waines once they start unloading the body bags. It falls to something like 40%, probably even less. And that's nationally...”

“This get's so maddening...

Why do so many people care more about countries that want to destroy us than the homeland that provides you all these freedoms?”

“Really ION? Because the administration seems to be having one hell of a time trying to prove to the American public that Saddam wants to "destroy" us.”

“Oh yeah, he's now our friend? Why didn't he let us in for weapons inspections?? You liberals are so naive until something like 9/11 happens and then you cry and mourn watching CNN instead of getting angry and taking care of business. Wait until he throws the first stone, I pray not....”

“And it's one, two, three four, What are we fightin' for?

Frankly I don't give a damn,
Next stop is ole Saddam!

And it's five, six, seven eight,
Open up the pearly gates.

Ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopie, we're all gonna die!”

“Bush has shown NO evidence--it's all been rhetoric!”

“When? Do I get to choose or should I sit back and hope for eutopia?”

“ped, who is more dangerous....the fanatic, ,or the thug who gives the fanatic all the tools he needs?"

Stratdewd


Good point. It's most dangerous when you have an alliance between the two(thugs and fanatics). Sometimes, the one that gives the fanatic weapons is us.”

“WHY WOULD HE NOT LET US IN TO INSPECT????

WHY WHY WHY???”

“You do realize that Saddam rode a CIA train into Baghdad don’t you? We backed the Ba’ath coup in Iraq and supplied a list of communists and leftists to be eliminated as part of the coup. This was back in the good old days of the Cold War and the previous Iraqi government had the audacity to withdraw from the US led anti-Soviet Baghdad Pact and *gasp* nationalize some oil concessions. Like much of the present day mess in the Middle East, it helps to realize that we are now stuck cleaning up ‘unintended consequences’ of the Cold War. I wonder what messes we’re creating by today’s actions for our children. Seems to me that policies that impact future generations require at least a little forethought.”

“itsonlynatural –

Ritter and others have alleged that the UN weapons inspection program was riddled with CIA spies who were only interested in developing targeting intelligence.

Does that answer your question?”

“Nope.. but thanks for trying...

Are you saying you don't want the US to have intelligence? Should we all play fair?”

“Thanks for putting idiotic words in my mouth. I could never have done that alone. I was only trying to answer your question directly. GET BACK TO HYSTERICS!”

“lol... sorry... I don't have much respect for Scott Ritter...”

“I really hope that with all the money we spend on spy satellites and what not, that any such spying was only of marginal use anyway. Otherwise, I want a refund.”

“You got it already, Violin. 300 dollars earlier this year.”

“you mean the tax rebate?”

“Yeah, so far Bush's domestic economic policy is spot on: tax break for the rich followed by blowing the shhit out of the Middle East. Economically, he's driving this country into the ground.”

“before the U.S. invades Iraq...

I wonder who's gonna jump on the bandwagon first to pull out when gas prices jump to >$3 a gallon??

Maybe the New Conservative (SUV driving) yuppies?”

“Yeah, I'm sensing a glut of POS Lincoln Navigators in the Auto Trader...”

“LOL... unreal, you liberals have nothing to go on but mock people for driving what they want? This is America, one of the beauties has always been CHOICE... why do you want to take that away?

And his econonmic policy? You can't push $hit on him yet, you think a prez can make a difference that quick... get a clue!!! He's still trying to figure out what secrets Clinton gave Osama before he let him get away...”

“Nothing like a good mud flinging fest to start off Monday...

Anyhoo...

I don't wanna get into consumption of natural resources debate on this upstanding political thread but the freedom to drive a post-2000 domestic vehicle that gets 15 MPG or less should be banned.

And in all fairness, ION, 9-11 did have an impact on the U.S. economy that was beyond Gerogieporgie's control.”

“George W. Bush gives you freedom:

Freedom to spend your money however you choose.

Liberty is another issue altogether.”

“If you watched Greenspan addressing Congress on Tilt's beloved C-SPAN, you'd know that

a) the stock market crash and the resulting drop in capital gains taxes caused much of the change in the budget picture (Mr. 'irrational exuberance' didn't see it coming though).

b) he's hardly above partisan politics.”

“Iraq allowing arms inspectors:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25855-2002Sep16.html”

“I'm all about choice... I don't care what anyone drives.

I just think it's funny to hear people complain about the cost of gas after they CHOOSE to buy a gas guzzler. It's akin to suing McDonald's after getting fat from eating there everyday...

it's your choice, it's your consequences... don't b1tch”

“Oh yeah ION... we were enemies with Osama when Clinton was in office...

it was when Reagan/Bush was in office that we were sneaking around and training the terrorists that are attacking us now...”