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Does anybody care?
For those who have not heard already, owners and players reached an agreement. No strike.
Geobeet
11:10:09 AM
8/30/02

SON OF A B!tch..i wanted a strike!
OPIE
11:11:43 AM
8/30/02

sorry but I realy don't care. They had no right to want to strike in the first place. I bust my hinny off working at work and at home and for little pay and you don't see me going on strike.
So sue me if I don't give a rats a$$
Maple Leaf
11:13:06 AM
8/30/02

I'm still on strike
Fans can still strike. We don't have to pay their bloated salaries. When they get down to one fan per team, how they gonna do that???
Geobeet
11:13:35 AM
8/30/02

One fan per team, now would that be a frickin salary cap?
Geobeet
11:14:16 AM
8/30/02

Support your local high school and college athletic programs!

Textile soccer is top-notch!
Go Rams!
flyguy6x
11:19:45 AM
8/30/02

Textile, huh? Our paper covers them. Where you located flyguy?
Geobeet
11:21:04 AM
8/30/02

I have to agree with Geobeet. A slowdown by the fans would force some change and reason.
Pathman
11:23:38 AM
8/30/02

I do not go to games, unless I get tickets from my company.

sorry guys but I can't resist the great seats, they kick a$$

but, im standing my ground!!!
Maple Leaf
11:29:12 AM
8/30/02

What makes a professional athlete think they deserve what they're already getting? They don't save lives. They don't risk their lives. They don't dedicate themselves to making other people's lives better. All they do is play games for a living that many of us consider a recreation. Greedy millionaire players bickering with greedy billionaire owners...pathetic.
Gear Slut
11:29:30 AM
8/30/02

Ya say a guy who can't hit above the Mendoza line shouldn't get paid a million a year?
Ya say ya don't wanna pay some snotgurgle who won't sign an autograph for yer kid?
Ya say $5 hotdogs are too high and $5 cups of beer are an outrage?
Ya say yer tired of paying for losing baseball?
Ya say ya wanna contract the whole dam league?
Well cheer up Bunkie; I've got great news for you.
Stay home and don't pay it!
When the Rangers can't afford to pay Alex Rodriguez, and Barry Bonds can afford only one gold chain, and Larry Jones ain't chipper no more,

Maybe they'll get the point!
Geobeet
11:30:15 AM
8/30/02

There's already been a little bit of an attitude adjustment. I read that three of the teams' players voted to not strike. So at least some of the players recognize that the constant squabbling is alienating the fans.
bitpusher
11:30:46 AM
8/30/02

I've been on strike since 1994. Never went back. And I was such a fan that I had Phillies season tickets (when they sucked right out loud).
kulou
11:31:00 AM
8/30/02

The players association would probably sue the public for "collusion."
flyguy6x
11:36:21 AM
8/30/02

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/news/2002/08/29/rays_angels_ap/


I guess it's time for the Angels to tank now...
donman
11:39:32 AM
8/30/02

Collusion? I don't think anybody can be coerced into patronizing businesses not of their choice. I think they call it a boycott.
Geobeet
11:41:32 AM
8/30/02

It seems that they just got back their fans after the last strike.
pepperDog
11:42:45 AM
8/30/02

In one way I'm glad (still have my DIRECTV) can see the rest of what I paid for, but the money these people make just pisses me off. It would take alot of people to boycott or whatever to see the players realize what they got going.
Wasatch
11:44:42 AM
8/30/02

It's arrogance. They think they can stomp on the fans' faces and they'll still come up and ask for more.
Geobeet
11:44:49 AM
8/30/02

If memory serves me (and thats a stretch) the players association sued the owners years ago claiming collusion if other teams didn't snap-up free agents. They claimed it de facto evidence of secret agreements amongst the owners not to bid-up players salaries.

It was a stretch, but that is what I was trying to play-on.
flyguy6x
11:45:14 AM
8/30/02

I've heard a lot of conflicting data about the fans returning. For some reason, the conventional wisdom is that game attendance has never recovered from the '94 strike. But I heard a guy just last night say that attendance increased throughout the 90's. Maybe on some mathematician's calculator, but I've read plenty of stats that say average attendance is still down from '94.
I know that I've only been to one MLB game since then. Of course, I live 4 hours from the nearest MLB park.
bitpusher
11:45:54 AM
8/30/02

I got the allusion to the old collusion claim and that it was quite appropriate.
kulou
11:46:50 AM
8/30/02

Sometimes fans come to the game disguised as empty seats.
Geobeet
11:47:04 AM
8/30/02

bitpusher you are right. Even ESPN stopped televising games since 94 or 96 not sure.
Wasatch
11:48:59 AM
8/30/02

Kulou, if you're on my wave-length, then you're really screwed-up!!!
j/k

Been hanging around this board long? Welcome! You are in Pa?
flyguy6x
11:49:42 AM
8/30/02

I'm all for boycotting the pro's and supporting the minor leagues.
Gear Slut
11:53:15 AM
8/30/02

Geo,
I'm in Philly. Remember, I recommended Primex for your pest problem.
BTW, Geo. Is it true you got "jumped" by a gang of squirrels in the woods?
flyguy6x
11:53:35 AM
8/30/02

I think that's mostly because Fox offered MLB more for the games. Who knows what will happen the next time the TV rights come up for sale? I've heard that the demographics for baseball watchers are now falling in the "older" category, and no advertiser likes that much. The problem with player salaries will fix itself as baseball becomes less and less popular in this country, and the billions and billions of dollars in TV revenue shared by the teams dries up.

Hey! I just realized something! This is Yet Another Problem which can be blamed on the Baby Boomers! lol......
bitpusher
11:56:42 AM
8/30/02

Nope, no squirrels. My own inability to dance on slippery rocks without toe shoes.
Geobeet
12:04:49 PM
8/30/02

What’s going to hurt baseball is still to come. Fans overall have yet to realized that only a handful of teams can afford to compete for the World Series.
trailhound57
12:12:35 PM
8/30/02

Screwed up? no, flyguy6x, we just happen to be particularly bright, that's all (my typo notwithstanding). Yeah, I'm in Harrisburg now. I lived in S. Jersey in the late '80s and early '90s. I was actually a Pirates fan, but also just a fan of baseball, and would go to see anybody play. Until the spoiled punks went on strike and caused a World Series to be cancelled. I haven't watched even one pitch of a Major League game since then.
kulou
12:27:16 PM
8/30/02

I do support my local minor league team. They are professional, just barely.

You missed one back up there Geobeet... What would the cost structure be if the owners didn't have the TAXPAYERS to blackmail into building new stadiums every few years?

THAT's what kills me.
Tilt
1:04:18 PM
8/30/02

The Sad Part
Right now the crowds are thin, but if the Phillies make a run on first place the ballpark will be full of people who don't know strike one from third base. Drove me crazy in '93, people asking stupid questions while I was trying to watch the damn game!
Geobeet
1:13:35 PM
8/30/02

I find that a little bit of beef blood on my face and hands keeps people from asking me questions at the ball park.
bitpusher
2:14:57 PM
8/30/02

LOL, just look at them dizzily and ask what happened to that foul ball anyway!
Geobeet
2:19:34 PM
8/30/02

Thank God for Pro Football!
WLD
2:55:35 PM
8/30/02

Thank God for the NHL!
Wasatch
2:59:20 PM
8/30/02

yawn.

good weather this weekend?
jmitch
3:10:27 PM
8/30/02

Fat City Fight Song???
Chorus went:
Thank God for marijuana
Geobeet
3:11:09 PM
8/30/02

Frankly, Scarlet...
Father Goose
11:15:07 PM
9/03/02

Albuquerque is getting interested in baseball again. We lost our minor league team last year, got a new one to start next year. The best part is the name, to be announced formally tomorrow-The Albuquerque











Isotopes!

Don't you love it!
Pathman
11:19:02 PM
9/03/02

When Augusta got another minor league team, they were the Pirates for the first few years (Pirates farm club, doncha know). Eventually they had to personalize the team to the city, and this meant One Thing: retarded golf-related nomenclature.

Hence, "The GreenJackets" [complete with a GREEN version of a Yellow Jacket for a mascot (puke twice)].

It could be worse, I suppose. They named the hockey team The Lynx.
Tilt
11:43:33 PM
9/03/02

Name Stolen From Homer
but what will happen to the Springfield Isotopes?




Ken Young, president of the Albuquerque Isotopes, announces the name of the baseball team Wednesday with general manager Mel Kowalchuk in the background. The name comes from an episode of the Fox network's animated television show "The Simpsons" in which character Homer Simpson stages a hunger strike after learning the mayor of Albuquerque was trying to lure away the Springfield Isotopes baseball team. (Kitty Clark Fritz/Journal)

Full Story, not available to non subscribers ;-)
Pathman
11:28:50 AM
9/05/02

the new cheer?

"Nuke 'em, nuke 'em good!"
Pathman
11:30:00 AM
9/05/02

Yikes! LOL

Ya Know... with the Savannah River Site just across the way...

NAH! These people have No sense of humor.
Tilt
11:39:47 AM
9/05/02

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