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I need opinions.View MessagesViewing posts 1 to 23 of 23 messages posted.
Work sucks sometimes... “I happened past the fax machine today-Our company just rehired two former employees.... One was hired as a Sales Manager and was very deserving... One is a guy who went to work for the competition- He was rehired at a salary almost 10k more than I make in a similiar position. I am very good at what I do- I have about 10 years seniority- The only reason I know is because of my proximity to the fax machine when the new hire info came across, It really is none of my business, but the fact remains I know. What do I do?” 8:23:06 PM 9/05/02 Don't take offense here but.... “Was it a woman that was hired back? If so, nothing you can do. If it was a man, maybe he is woman AFTER work? If so, nothing you can do. Sorry...” 8:25:36 PM 9/05/02 “Dude I have been at my job for 11 years and I know what work sucks is all about about just grin and bear it! 8)” 8:29:25 PM 9/05/02 “pple get into alllllllll kinda trouble talking about or "finding" out about salaries at my work...two workers check stubs were in the wrong inboxes and they both check the others out without looking...big mess...if it eats away at you ...you can be honest and tell your supervisor what you accidently came across...and express your concerns..make sure you have all your i's dotted and t's crossed...maybe you can work this into a raise situation.....but it could go the other way......” 8:53:43 PM 9/05/02 “Take the advice of the big wigs, put your strengths and all the things you've done for the company in writing and have a meeting with your supervisor. Ask for a raise and prove why you deserve it. I wouldn't mention that you saw the fax. Ask for your raise on your own merits! GL!!” 8:58:36 PM 9/05/02 “Well, you could do what they did...quit and come back. I had to leave the companies I was working for to get raises up to what I was worth.” 9:14:43 PM 9/05/02 “JOSH, absolutely DO NOT MENTION THE FAX!!!!!! Other than that, what tango said.” 11:17:14 PM 9/05/02 “I'm with tango on this one. The fact that they are willing to pay more money to other people means that it isn't out of the question. But only use that information to strengthen your resolve. Don't let on that you saw it.” 11:24:47 PM 9/05/02 “I agree with bitpusher. I've seen it too many times. It does work ( if you really want to come back). Think of it as the old "Bird in the hand...."” 11:43:33 AM 9/06/02 “It's a crap job market to do it in but... a sure fire way to get more $$ is to go work for the competition then come back. A lot of employers put weight in outside work experience” 11:51:21 AM 9/06/02 “Squeeky wheel gets the grease.” 12:08:54 PM 9/06/02 “It's a hard situation to be in, knowing how much your co-workers make. Sometimes it can be satisfying, sometimes galling. In a job I was working at, I had two separate experiences in accidentally discovering how much co-workers made. One time, I opened a paystub which was lying on my desk, assuming it was mine. I thought I had gotten a REALLY BIG RAISE...until I saw the name on the check. In that case, I didn't mind, because the person was a lead on a project, and it was kind of nice to know that someone with responsibility was well-compensated. The other time, a co-worker essentially blurted out how much they made without meaning to (they gave me enough info to calculate their salary). This individual had less experience, both overall and at this company, than I had, and had a much lower ability (a nincompoop) than I, but was making more money, simply because they had been hired at a time when programmers were paid more. I approached my boss (who I knew would be cool about it) and let him know what I had learned. I ended up getting a 20% raise, and the other person ended up quitting, because their basic incompetence was discovered. Of course, I ended up leaving that place a year later for another big raise....” 12:21:03 PM 9/06/02 “You can quit your job at McDonalds and apply at Burger King.” 12:21:32 PM 9/06/02 “Then he could be your boss, bacpac.” 12:40:36 PM 9/06/02 What to do? “Look for a new job, run around in circles shouting "Woe is me!", cry uncontrollably, yell at the top of your lungs, "Well F... You and take this job and shove it!", get a new name plate for your desk that reads "Super Wimp," start a whispering campaign that the new hire is hiding from the law, sit back and watch the new hire screw up and get fired (this almost always is the case), shoot yourself, shoot the new hire, or the Postal Service technique, shoot everybody and let God sort them out. Hope one of those works.” 12:45:32 PM 9/06/02 “your shoes don't go with that outfit. ;-P” 12:46:39 PM 9/06/02 “WHAT I WOULD DO IS QUIT AND BECOME A RAGING DRUNK.” 1:56:32 PM 9/06/02 “Things I've learned from job interviews....... "COMPETITIVE SALARY" We remain competitive by paying less than our competitors. "JOIN OUR FAST-PACED TEAM" We have no time to train you. "CASUAL WORK ATMOSPHERE" We don't pay enough to expect that you'll dress up; well, a couple of the real daring guys wear earrings. "MUST BE DEADLINE ORIENTED" You'll be six months behind schedule on your first day. "SOME OVERTIME REQUIRED" Some time each night and some time each weekend. "DUTIES WILL VARY" Anyone in the office can boss you around. "CAREER-MINDED" Female Applicants must be childless (and remain that way). "NO PHONE CALLS PLEASE" We've filled the job; our call for resumes is just a legal formality. "SEEKING CANDIDATES WITH A WIDE VARIETY OF EXPERIENCE" You'll need it to replace three people who just left. "REQUIRES TEAM LEADERSHIP SKILLS" You'll have the responsibilities of a manager, without the pay or respect. "GOOD COMMUNICATION SKILLS" Management communicates, you listen, figure out what they want and do it.” 2:38:15 PM 9/06/02 “Go to HR and tell them you have a feeling that your pay is not equivalent to others in the company doing the same job. You don't have to mention the fax, but you should mention your discontent. Of course, if you do this, your supervisor will hate you for going over his or her head to HR.” 2:50:20 PM 9/06/02 “What Tango said” 3:12:07 PM 9/06/02 “i wouldn't do anything..i'd just secretively pee in the coffee pot each morning and grin all day long...watching that and giggling all day has got to be worth a few K$.” 4:25:21 PM 9/06/02 Thanks for the insight... “I think I will take some of all from this- A/ don't mention the fax B/ get even C/ get even more even D/ They won't know what they have until it is gone. FYI The company is family owned and the stud duck (who hired me)died about two years ago in the middle of a process of selling some divisions they had made the mistake of buying in the first place. It has been weird anyway but my "supervisor" is also a friend- we kinda grew up in the industry together- I know going to them will not work because of the personalities involved, mine included. I do know exactly which buttons to push and when, to express my displeasure. The guy who left is snake anyway I will find a way,without harming the company in any way, of proving it. I think I may have been a little more sensitive than I normally would have been had I not been told by a national manufacturor that had an opening in Tennessee that I was not even open for consideration for the position because the company I work for is a customer of theirs. IMHO I would be in the top 3-4 people for the job. Oh well- Thanks again all- May I now have some cheese to go with my whine?” 3:14:13 PM 9/07/02 “Yes you may! 8p” 3:17:47 PM 9/07/02
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