The Civil War, Ken Burns

“This week PBS is replaying Ken Burns documentary "The Civil War." So far it has been excellent.”

“It's a great film with almost all primary source material.

I wonder what the population of this country would be now if all those lives hadn't been lost.”

“Last night's episode was cool. It's humbling to see what my 3X Granpa Zion, 49th GA Vol. Inf., went through for all those years.

We hike? Yeah... right.

I hope that Lee fella wins... he ROCKS!”

“i love the ken burns stuff. even though he kinda gives me da creeps, lol.


i've always been fascinated by the civil war for some reason. i read a 6 part book series( all 2 inches think) by carl sandburg about the life of lincoln. it was written in the late 30's andd early 40's, when some of the players were still alive to tell about it, and it was still fairly fresh in the country's mind. fascinating stuff.



i was thinkin that same thing last night garf..”

“My 3X Grandpa Baxter died in a Yankee POW camp in Indiana...I have another relative who died at Shiloh, but he was a Yankee...many others who served on both sides in that war.”

“Grandapa Zion had a brother that died of disease. From what I gather, he died in a GA hospital.

I have prolly dozens of kin that fought - some on the "other" side.

The Sons of Confederate Veterans moved my Great Grandpa's (Zion's son) old log house from it's stead to the old family church grounds. They refurbished it to it's original state. That prompted me to look into the organization, which led me to Zion. I'm considering joining, but haven't gotten farther than an application packet.”

“my father in law is knee deep in that orgination. i think he's a comander er sumpthin, ,i wasn't payin that much attn, ,lol. that aspect of it doesn't really interest me personally...”

“Each branch may be different, but a representative of the local chapter spoke at a local civic club(Kiwanis) that I'm a member of. He launched into a racist, hateful diatribe that was way, way over the line. I think everyone who was in attendance was offended and embarrased. Hopefully, all of the groups aren't like that.”

“That documentary is probably the best thing I’ve ever seen on TV.”

“I'm tired of the Civil War. Everytime I read about it the same side wins. Boring!”

“i hae the feeling that's what it's all about for my dad-in-law too. that's why i want no part of it....”

“I use to get my smoke from a Ken Burns.”

“Yeah, that's what I was afraid of (SCV). I'll know soon enough, tho.

Personally, I have alot of admiration for the soldiers on both sides of that terrible conflict, with a wee tilt toward the Confeds. Forget the cause - the American War for Southern Independence is one of the great conflicts in the world's history. It was nervously watched from all corners of the globe. The courage and determination of the average foot soldier is unsurpassed, as were the horrors they experienced.

I joined the USS LCS Association a few years back in recognition of my dad's participation in WWII. My membership in the SCV would be a similar gesture.”

“lmao troll!”

“I recently read a book recommended to me by sandy(he posts everyonce in a while) call "Cold Mountain" It's basically a guy who gets disinfranchised with the "cause" and the war effort and deserts from the hospital to go home. It takes him a month or so to hike to Cold Mountain. Very good read.”

“Dayhiker, I read that book also, it is a very good read.”

“Lots of TTers have read that one. Not me, tho. It was the topic of much conversation at the Cold Mountain Approach Shelter last year. (see "ECT Shining Rocks" thread).”

“Lots of people are facinated with the civil war.

I used to work with a guy who was a Civil War Re-enactor. Kind of a cool-strange hobby. He travels all around to do re-enactments. The "unit" he's in is confederate, but they are all willing to switch sides to balance the forces for a better battle re-creation. I went to see him in a battle at Pea Ridge, Arkansas. Pretty cool. Actually it was quite cold, but these guys were willing to suffer. He is into backpacking also, just more primitive during re-enactments.”

“My great great grandfather was a civil war deserter who went up into Canada and became a lumberman. The rest of my ancestors didn't come to the country (from Ireland) until after the civil war. But I have always been fascinated by the history. I've been looking for the Cold Mountain book at the library because I heard that it was a really good book.”

“Cold Mountain is on my "to read" list.”

“September 17 was the 140th anniversary of the Antietam/Sharpsburg battle in Western Maryland.

For a few years, about 20 years ago, I had a subscription to Civil War Times Illustrated.
There were interesting stories about obscure details such as Jews in the Confederacy and Gen. Joe Wheeler(he was five feet tall).

The fact is that it took the killing-off of a significant number of the Confederate moneyed elite to take the fight out of the C.S.A.
They were, after all, the rotten ba$tards who set the whole thing in motion.”

“Good point Tom. The guy I mentioned who spoke at the civic club included the Jews in the CSA as an example of how "enlightened" they were. I thought I would barf.”

“Cool. A counter hateful diatribe.”

“Wait. I don't think one-line spate of namecalling constitutes a diatribe.

And the politics of war doesn't alway reduce well into a sentence or two.”

“If you're calling my last post a diatribe then I wasn't clear on my intent. When I said that I would barf, I was referring to the hypocrysy of the speaker.”

“There was a Catholic chaplin for a Tennessee unit that was killed in the battle of Jonesboro, GA. My K of C chapter was instrumental in having a memorial stone placed on the lawn of the county courthouse in J'boro.

I met an Irishman at a local bar a couple years ago. He was working in the area. He asked for directions to Tara, which is "in" Jonesboro. I told him that Tara didn't exist - GWTW is fiction. The poor bloke nearly cried. I told him that there is a museum there, but no Tara...”

“What? There is no Tara!!?!!

I have my own Tara, and a sister for her too.”

“"Each branch may be different, but a representative of the local chapter spoke at a local civic club(Kiwanis) that I'm a member of. He launched into a racist, hateful diatribe that was way, way over the line. I think everyone who was in attendance was offended and embarrased. Hopefully, all of the groups aren't like that."
dayhiker
10:00:51 AM
09/24/02

From the inquiries I've made, dayhiker, they are. That's the reason I haven't joined. That and the fact that I was told that my lack of a Southern accent would probably get me hung, LOL.”

“No, Dayhiker, I replying to Tom. Sorry for the confusion.”

“They're filming a movie version of Cold Mountain right now. WHere are they filming? Central Europe. Why? There's no place "rural" or "primitive" enough for filming in America.”

“Central Europe is more rural and primitive than rural North America? Surprising, skeptical, but I have never been to Europe, so I don't know.”

“Nicole Kidman is apparently the female lead for the movie.”

“yowza!

<G>”

“Oh come on. They filmed "The Last of The Mohicans" in North Carolina. Somebody's using that as an excuse for the cheap labor over there.”

“Cheap labor in Europe. I thought they were all welfare states over there? I'm sure Tom can educate us on welfare states(grin).”

“Central Europe, not Western Europe. Those people in Central Europe will do almost anything to get ahold of hard currency...”

“Hmmmm....
"Glory" was filmed in these parts in the early 90's - my nephew was an extra. The "battlefield" is now a subdivision and a strip mall.”

“Gotcha, I usually forget that the western portion of the former USSR is actually Europe.”

“A friend of mine's wife is from The Czech republic. Apparently it's pretty grim there.”

“It is properly termed in this end of the country, 'The Unfawtunate Wawuh of Nawthun Aggression'.
Which it most certainly was, IMHO.”

“historical revisionists suck.”

“Your point?”

“just that. Apologists. Deniers. A$$holes. You know.”

“Would you care to be more specific?”

“it wasn't directed at you Dad. At least I don't think it was. Hmm...

Actually, I'm saying I despise the revisionist history that *some* confederate wannabe hoseheads spout.”

“So let it go, bubba. I want to hear what you have to say.”

“Let me make it easier for ya. I live here and I've heard the racist bull$hit spilling from the mouths of the ignorant @ssholes who still hear the cannonballs flying, and I've had a good bit of it directed at me. I maintain that it was, correctly, a states' rights issue.”

“Tahnks, Pa, for the encouragement, but, shucks, I'm going to sit back and watcht he progression fo this thread before I hop on my warhorse. This issue is too much like my views on organized religion. Too volatile. But you're a "n00b" regular that I'd like to discuss, ah, er, um, I guess, I suppose, something else with sometime. Peace.”

“Mutt, you lose 2 points right off the bat for being snobby and condescending.

Second your arrogance is astounding, as if the collective is waiting,holding our very breath to hear what you have to say. Your opinion is equal to each of those who have posted here, which is to say it is worth #&%!$. You are just another person posting on another message board.Get over yourself.

you lose a total of 10 points”

“OS, you are a cowardly, condescending, trolling horse's @ss! Why don't you post under your usual handle? Is it because your are ashamed of your dumb@ss self?”