Radar Detectors

“OK, with all the travelling this group does, I know we've got some people who drive fast and use radar detectors...

I have some questions.

1. Do they really "work"? Have you ever gotten a speeding ticket while using one?
2. How fast do you drive when you use it?
3. If I buy one, are there certain features I should look for?
4. I've seen ads for a device that say it makes you "invisible" to radar, by sending a scrambling signal back to the radar gun. Anyone have one of those?

I am always a safe and courteous driver. I'm not looking for a way to drive at extreme speeds, I just want to make good time on those long trips, and decrease the chance of getting a ticket on my daily 140-mile-round-trip commute.”

“No, no, & no!

MOST highway Patrol use Lazer GUNS know whcih makes the RADAR detecter pointless. Instead get two speaker magnets and place one one the front drivers side bumper (of course under the hood) & one under the drivers rear bumper if your worried that bad. It will deflect the radar signal! It doent always work but its in the Aarchy Cookbook!

As for Lazer they will get you. BUT, there is away to excape the lazer gun by immeadiatly slamming the brakes on to drop your speed instantly. Then lazer gun will not stop at an accurate reading untill a steady speed is read.

IT DOES WORK IVE DONE IT THOUSANDS OF TIMES! bad on the breaks thow, but beats a 200$ ticket.”

“They do work, but depending on how fast you are driving, where the cops set up, and local terrain, you would be in the detecting zone when it goes off. They are not absolutly foolproof.

The ones I had also generated a lot of spurious signals. For one thing, it went off whenever I passed a Radio Shack store (a Radio Shack detector I don't need).

The are illegal in Virginia and Connecticut, so you have to not just turn them off, but stow them out of sight. In Va., I can tell you that troopers do stop people for it when they spot it.

Most state police in the east will give from 5 to 10 miles over the limit based on the imperfection of radar sets. Most give 10, and a Virginia trooper on I-81 with a handheld radar in the median strip waved at me to speed up one day when I dropped down to the speed limit (that was in the days of nationwide 55 mph).

With or without radar, I'd stay within of the speed limit. Heck, it's 65 on most interestates anyway, and 70 is as fast as I ever want to go.

Of course, in Pennsy Fritz, only the state police use radar. Locals use VASCAR or a similar device. These are timing devices that compute the time it takes to travel between two predetermined spots to figure out speed. Radar detectors are useless against those. Other jurisdictions are likely to use timing devices as well, so I figure the radar detector is simply a useless device, entertaining, good for finding Radio Shack stores, but otherwise useless.

I have no experience with scrambling devices. I would fear using one, since it could trigger a response in the radar set and a trooper could radio ahead to a chase car to tail you, perhaps clock you on the old speedometer (unmarked state police cars are becoming harder to spot).”

“I use one.

Saved my butt numerous times. If I do get stopped however, in between the time the cop stops and is coming up to my car, that radar detector gets hidden! (why tempt them into giving you that ticket for sure??)

The theory is that cops drive with radar on all the time, so you'll detect it far away. The reality is sometimes they'll just flip it on when they meet you, so you have no advance notice.

That's how a lot of speeders with detectors get tickets. Has happened to me.

BUT... they do help. For example, I dont know if it's legal in this MN county where I work, but the frickin' cops sit by the side of the road with no lights on. I mean, even when it's dark!! Seems to reek of entrampment to me.

However, my radar has saved me by going off in plenty of time before reaching their "disabled" cars. ha..... f'ers!!”

“Buy a CB radio, they ARE full proof!!

Geo, where I live the State police use radar and Lazer! RaDAR while shooting & driving, and Lazer for sitting! like I said before radar is just not worth the money! Lazer can always be cheated!



As for unmarked (Plane Rapters) the cb radio will take care of that!”

“It's only "entrampment" if you use your "feminine wiles" to get out of the ticket...”

“When I get to the open road, I set my cruise control to 9 mph over the speed limit and go. In Michigan, most areas that speed will be about 79 mph. Don't need to go voer that speed.”

“we used to have one...i thought it was great! we missed it when it stopped working inexplicably. i don't know if they're legal in MD, but i doubt it... just as long as you stash it somewhere if necessary, and don't pipe up that it's "hided," a la treebait, you should be fine. hee hee!

without a radar detector, i've never been pulled over, even though i go at least 10 or 15 over on long trips. i attribute it to my psychic abilities...i always seem to find myself behind a slow driver all of a sudden while passing a cop on the side of the road. bizarre!”

“When I'm driving and my mother-in-law is along, she watches the speed-o-meter, and frequently asks "How fast can you go, before you get a ticket?"

Anyone wanna borrow my mother-in-law?”

“I drive the speed limit.”

“Well I(a Deputy Sheriff) can tell you that we have hand held lazer and radar "guns". So that an officer stands and points it at the car that is speeding, pulls the trigger and gets your speed instantly. There is nothing about getting a steady speed. The speed read out changes as the speed of the vehicle changes. A detector would never warn you, unless you are one of the cars behind the target. Same with car mounted radar, they don't send out a signal all the time, just when the trigger is pushed. But I can tell you that most cops will write a ticket if they see or hear the detector!

In Osceola County we don't stop a car until it is going 16 mph over the limit; except in school zones.”

“Yeah go for the bel vector 985... it'll save your a$$. Although, like some have said, travelling on a lonely road with no other cars you will get a ticket. They don't have to have anything on so they wait and pop it on, or gun ya and by then your done. But in traffic with a good one it will help!!”

“ION- We stand on busy roads too. You actually can aim it to a certain car in a group, and stop that one!”

“Tango, how do you pick?”

“In the school they teach you how to estimate the speed by just looking. To pass the class at the end they drive cars past you and you have to say the speed. We had to get 8 out of 10 correct (within 3 mph). I have not notice any of us picking a certain color (red) more than any other color of car either.”

“With her index finger, no doubt...”

“Ha Ha Ha FG--good one!”

“Oh please, tango, don't encourage him... :-)”

“Tango,

If I catch your radar going off when you're after someone else that's driving way ahead of me then it does work. I'm talking from experience, saved me from one while I was heading north at about 95mph...”

“ION I mentioned that in my first post! FYI”

“Put some bear bait out front...run with packs, and stay on the cb and give as much info as you ask for...also..please start the habit of flashing your lights to warn a brother....noone does this much anymore..i still do”

“bitpusher..."entrampment"

LMFAO!!!

(and people think I only get on their asses over spelling mistakes. LOL!!)”

“I wondered when someone would pick up on that one....

Normally I leave spelling mistakes alone, but that one was too rich...”

“Prowler....the term used on CB for unmarked police cars is "plain wrapper"..."Plane Rapters"...too funny.”

“CB, really? I didn't think anyone used those anymore....

Tell me more, I've never had one, what is the practical value?

Mostly just listen to the truckers?”

“its Plane Rapter, just like the Bird in The Sky!!

I now my slang brother! 10”

“it's "plain wrapper", dude.”

“I have always used one and have never had a problem.

I aways drive 85 to 90 on interstates!

Mine has saved my but lots of times.

8)”

“This is the best radar and laser detector on the market. The valentine 1 is by far the best device ever built to help you beat a tiket. To see more on the valentine 1 go to:

http://www.valentine1.com/

This detector has been unanimously chosen as the best by numerous car magazines and countles sportcar aficionados. Take it from me, it is well worth the money. Good Luck.
I believe they will even pay for your ticket if you get one while using the V1.”

“maybe? rad but Ive always heard it as Rapter!! My ex- brother n law is a over the road driver (9yrs.)and he always refured to it as Rapter. Ive been driving for 4 know, maybee 5?

It does make sense as wrapper, like a unmarked candy wrapper, but who cares any way, Ill call it what I want and you all call it what you want, DEAL!”

“UNIDEN Bear tracker is the one you want. The original is a in-dash unit with every known frequency in the scanner. They have come out with some new bear trackers, even a portable, plug in the cig lighter and put it on top of the dash unit(this is a tough one to find). Look them up at uniden.com”

“Its plain wrapper! And normally one would state the color of the car as well when alerting others. like it's a brown or red wrapper or even the make of the car. IND. State Troopers run Camaro's, Berreta's, Lumina's etc all the time. Just like cops on bikes are called 'Evil Kenevils' (sp). You'll see alot of those types across the river from Louisville in Indy.

I've had the same Escort detector since the mid-80's. One of those big heavy ones that nobody wants to steal. I must say it has work for me. I speed but not by much. One time I got pulled over into the scale house aka 'ckicken coup' and the little fat man behind the mirrored glasses(trooper wannabe) and his tall goofy trainee gave me and my truck the 3th degree. Everything but a cavity search. They found my old detector stuff away deep in my briefcase. Brought it in and gave me the 4th degree. After a bunch of 'yes sirs' and heavy arse kissin I was out the door and back on the road with my lucky detector to boot. For that I'm a grateful.

Aren't those Valentines made by one of those guys that left Cincinnati Microwave(Escort and Solo makers)?”

“They make lazer detectors that work pretty well. Kind of pricey though. If you do spend good money on one, go for a in the dash model. The display will mount in your dash board and look like it's part of the car. Radar scramblers are very illegal, so don't get caught. CB is by far the most powerful and the most fun, but only on major highways with truck traffic. If you want a good laugh, travel the interstate late at night with the CB on.”

“I use one, and its saved me a lot of times. Except for when we left WY, 45 minutes heading back to CA. I was looking at a metallic beige car with ski racks, I thought. Then the radar went off just as he got close enough to notice those were lights on top. I normally look for black or white cars. I'm hoping it doesn't go on my record.

Between home and the Sierras, we know where they hide, so we know where to slow down, and where we can speed up. We usually drive at night, so if we see tail lights go off, we know what's ahead. I try not to go over 9mph over, when I'm on probation. CA has traffic school, so you can't get a ticket for 18 mo. SnowDude got a ticket 1 day short of his probation period, and his insurance went up $400 yr.

My truck goes 100 and it doesn't feel like it. I use cruise as much as possible because of that.



I'm not good at playing girl to get out of a ticket. My friends all do it.”

“*crackle* Your coming in loud and clear, wall-to-wall, tree-top tall, bouncing like a rubber ball...come on back *click*

Some CB terminology

*County Mounty-Sherrif car
*Local yokel-City cop
*big dog/big bear/papa bear-state trooper
*dog with teeth/bite-police cruiser actively shooting radar
*Barking dog-radar detector going off
*CHIPS/mopeds with muscle-Bikecops
*Large Car-Fast/powerful deisel
*four wheeler-any noncommercial vehicle
*aligator-retread peices in the road
*lot lizard-truck stop mistress
*Anyone got your ears on-used to ask if anyone is monitoring the channel
*Radio Check on 19-If you hear this give the sender a shout back that you can read him and any info on the road in his direction
**try to note mile markers when playing with the cb radio
"Northbound Red peterbuilt, you have a big bear at mile marker 45, 2 local yokels past marker 48 in smallville, and your clear to the state line"
**try to catch the make (peterbuilt, International, kenworth) of the deisel or company name when addressing a "driver"
or you can call them out by the trailer(reefer/refridge van, Van, lowboy, flatbed, tank, termite hauler/log trailer)”

“I always use the fool who is speeding ahead of me as a detector. It works well for radar and lazer.”

“SLOW DOWN!”

“Gear slut, that's what I do. I'm normally 10 over unless I can tuck in behind someone going faster. Then, I'll go up to 90 (in a 65 zone.)”

“WOW Opie you must be CB proffessional!!

Congradulations on passing your test!!!!!

Yes that is all the slang BUT wheres your true slang!


you forgot about,,

10
com-on”

“Snow Nymph, perhaps you are not to worry.

Ive been picked up like SEVEN times since I started working in MN in March of 2000. The only ticket I got was from the state patrol (radar was quickly hidden). I woulda argued that one, BUT I'd been to a Christmas party earlier. Had like 3 beers between say 7 p.m. and 11 p.m....... and then had stopped at office for an hour. STILL.... didn't think arguing and potentially getting a breath test was worth it!! eeeeeeeeek!!!

Anyhoo, the county sheriff's dept. covers Highway 52 between a couple towns. They are hired as police in them. So I am always meeting them. Have been pulled over for equipment violations. ANYTHING. Probably mostly because I have Iowa plates on my car?? (OK, I suppose they don't see that right away... but STILL..)

Last time I was pulled over, the young guy asked me if I'd been picked up lately. (I was snickering inside thinking, yes, you would be No. 7) I told him about the highway patrol ticket I got in January of this year.

He went back, ran it through the computer system, came back and said, "It shows your last ticket was in '97." (Or some such thing.)

HUH??? I think when you are in different states, they don't necessarily pass information back and forth..... or at least not in any kind of timely manner.

You would think it would be really easy with computers.

I know a friend a few years back who moved from Iowa to MN and had a pending DWI going on his insurance, losing license for awhile etc. He somehow got a WI license quick... which he then used to get his MN license. It worked at the time.

(I do think years later it caught up to him. Not sure how bad penalties were then, or if there were even any.)”

“they are just now changing that system liz...states didn't tell each other about tickets, and used to you could even get a license in each state if you had an address there...they are now going to use a central comp..so your tix will show to everyone and go straight to your insurance...ya..it blows!


oh prowler...what's your 20 good buddy, heard ya work the truckers clock reeaaal good teddy bear, why don't ya slide in behind me and lets skoot to the state line truck stop...over and out..good buddy!

ohh..note..never call a "driver" good buddy...or if he finds you..you'll have probs sitting down”

“Trucker Clock, who waonts it!

Come on with yo homo sexual truck drivers out there talk to teddy bear, com on!

Pull up in front of my rig driver, let teddy bear know how he drives!

TRUCKER CLOCK WHO WAONTS IT!!

Tell me you like the way I handle mr rig driver!!!”

“prowler...the story behind that comedy bit was when they contacted the man at that sex line afterwards to get his permission to put it on cd..turns out he was a rehab'd crack addict in a half-way house doing the call center as a way to get back on his feet.”

“Just outrun the cops and don't worry about it.”

“Opie you talkin about Bob & Tom flick right?

if you havnt heard that then go to there site and maybee they still have it up! its halarious!!!!”