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In the this past Sunday paper, front page, there was a story about big "cats" sighted in the upper, lower Michigan (it's a Michigan thang), more or less in the area east/southeast of Traverse City (this has gotten some people, myself included, very giddy!). I bring this up because I was wondering if there was a book on animal scat out there. Along with identifying trees, plants and birds, I'd like to be able to tell what kind of wildlife is out there that I can't see. Oh yea, I'd like to know if one of these cats are on the trail just ahead me, too.

Anyone?
laqtis
8:52:24 AM
10/02/02

I've seen books on scat and print iding before. Unfortunately I don't have one I could tell you the title and author of. Sounds interesting to me to, let me know what you find.
Sassafras
8:54:45 AM
10/02/02

i've had the thought that i need to get one of those books too, laqtis...there has to be several!

i've also thought that on the book, it should say, "Without Us, You Don't Know Sh-t!" ha ha.
lyra
8:55:47 AM
10/02/02

Hey Sass - Did yo usee that story? Looks like there's a big pair that live in the Manistee River Valley. Also, there have been sightings just south (Kalkaska) of Jordan. Maybe we'll get lucky (safely lucky, that is..)

lyra - That's some funny #&%!$!

Oh no! potty humor!
laqtis
8:59:13 AM
10/02/02

Oh, I wonder, wonder who
But who knew who
Who wrote the book of #&%!$
Tell me, tell me, tell me
Who wrote the book of #&%!$
Well, I've got to know the answer
Is it someone from above
Oh, I wonder, wonder who
But who knew who
Who wrote the book of #&%!$

Baby, baby, baby
I #&%!$ you, yes I do
And it says so in this book of #&%!$
That I'm the one that's true
Oh, I wonder, wonder who
But who knew who
Who wrote the book of #&%!$

Chapter one says you #&%!$ her
You #&%!$ her with all your heart
Chapter two says you'll never
You never, never... never gonna part
Chapter tree, remember
The meaning of romance
In chapter four you break up
Oh, won't you give me just one more chance

Oh, I wonder, wonder who
But who knew who
Who wrote the book of #&%!$

I wonder who
Who wrote the book of #&%!$
pedxing
9:10:07 AM
10/02/02

EVERYBODY DANCE NOW!
laqtis
9:12:10 AM
10/02/02

I don't know about a book......

but you can check your knowledge of #&%!$ here .
chili36
9:14:54 AM
10/02/02

wheee, time to boogie here on TT! hahahaha...

potty humor is funny as #&%!$!
lyra
9:14:54 AM
10/02/02

I've got "Animal Tracks" by Olaus J. Murie (A Peterson Feild Guide) It's a good-sized paperback and has lots of information--perhaps too much.

ISBN 0-395-91094-3
stumprider
9:16:23 AM
10/02/02

Here is your guide laqtis.
chili36
9:16:57 AM
10/02/02

Q, I saw the story. I swear I've seen one near Nordhouse Dunes. Call me nutsy if you want....
Sassafras
9:17:24 AM
10/02/02


Well, here's a question that made me post this thread. I saw some #&%!$ on the trail. Never seen that kind of #&%!$ before. I said to cupp "what kind of #&%!$ is this?" he said, "I don't know #&%!$, how should I know?". So I sez, "this #&%!$ looks like a turbin" and he sez "No #&%!$? Any Al queda round?" and I sez " No, doumb #&%!$, looks like no other #&%!$ I've seen before, and I've been through a lot of #&%!$!"

Can anyone tell me what kind of #&%!$ this might be??
laqtis
9:21:53 AM
10/02/02

Sass - There have been reports for a while now. The weird thing is that this farmer has gotten a permit from the DNR to kill the cat, 'cause it's killing his animals. Cougers have been on the endangered list for a long time and the DNR gives this guys a permit to kill it if he ses it. Funny thing, the DNR stand by the there point of "No cats in Michigan since 1903!! That the end of it!" I wonder if there are worried that if it gets out that there are in fact cats and big cats at that, that it would hurt the income from hunting.....
laqtis
9:26:51 AM
10/02/02

What els do yall want to kno?

I am the KWEENG OF DOODOO!
do:3
sarabelle
9:30:54 AM
10/02/02

No, they'd have more lotteries for BIG CAT hunts. They'd make more $. I think it's ignorant for them to insist there aren't any. I'm surprised that's their stance. The good thing about cats, at least in MI, is they are soooo elusive. I bet that farmer never sees the thing to take a shot.

Did you know we have over 4,000 lynx? I have never seen a hair of one.
Sassafras
9:40:57 AM
10/02/02

Wow, did not know about the lynx. That's great news too! For some reason, I'm really liking this talk of cats in that area.
laqtis
9:49:46 AM
10/02/02

I have a book on scat identification, don't know the name of it off the top of my head.
If you hike Borestone mtn in Maine, stop at the nature center and they have a poster with actual scat glued on it. :)
twigeater
9:56:20 AM
10/02/02

Cougar have been sighted in the east, even around the SE Pa-Delaware area.

They are thought to be re-establishng themselves in the mountains. Lots of people believe they are there, but there has been no proof yet.

The Cougar sighting around SE-Pa was pretty well documented in news accounts several years ago. The animal apparently came to its senses and left, because there have been no sightings since.

So cougars in Michigan would seem quite logical.

The prevailing theory is that they are so elusive nobody has sighted one in the wild. Given the number of people criss-crossing the parks and forests, that would seem unlikely.

Another theory holds that farmers shoot them when they see them. But if that was the case, somebody would be bragging their fool heads off and there would be a cadaver.

Time will tell, There are certainly a lot of people who believe they are out there. There is also a plentiful supply of deer for them.
Geobeet
11:42:10 AM
10/02/02

More than plentiful.

The thing is, I believe they are pretty much nocturnal...which would make it harder to sight them. It was early, early morning when I saw the one I saw.

I wonder what Cow Patty knows about them, if anything?
Sassafras
11:47:45 AM
10/02/02

Bear Doo Doo

Big doo doo with bells in it is from a Grizzly, big doo doo without the bells is from a Black Bear and big doo doo with an eskimo in it is from a Polar Bear.
Savage
12:04:04 PM
10/02/02

Mountain lions in New York?

By Rick Brockway

The little black and white kids jumped and ran across the pasture as the goats grazed in the new spring grass. A paint foal rested, stretched out flat in the warm, morning sun.


It was just another day in the country.


Further up the hill, above the old barbed wire fence, large, flat boulders bordered the hardwoods of the Catskill hills. There upon the huge rocks, the big cat lay.


It was brownish-yellow in color with a long tail. It was no house cat, and certainly not a bobcat. The feline just lay there watching, often twitching its tail, content in the thought of a possible dinner below.


This was not the first time that this mountain lion or cougar had been seen in the valley near Prattsville. The DEC denies the existence of these big cats in the area, but there have been several sightings around the state.


A few years ago, I was hunting in the Adirondacks east of Speculator. There were several inches of snow on the ground as I headed down Long Pond Ridge in the late afternoon.


I had been following a single set of huge deer tracks when I noticed very large cat tracks parallel to those I was following. These were not from a bobcat. These tracks were five or so inches across, and there were definite marks from a dragged tail in the fluffy snow.


I stalked along slowly, constantly looking, when I got a chill along my spine. I never saw the cat, but there was a strange feeling that crept across me.


He was definitely there, close by, watching. As darkness approached, I dropped off the mountain and headed for camp.


When I reached an old log cabin, I asked the rest of the guys if there were any mountain lions in the area. Most of the other hunters thought I was crazy, with the exception of ol' John.


John Vodron was an old Adirondack guide, an aged hunter and a great storyteller. For the rest of the evening we were entertained with countless tales of lions and bears.


John claimed that he had seen several cougars over the past 60 years. One growled and snarled, following him for several miles out of the woods, as he carried a hind quarter of venison in his back pack. He claimed to have seen one with a deer down on the log road to camp a few days before.


A couple of days later, we saw a poster in Charley John's store in Speculator. It asked hunters to report all mountain lion sightings. Maybe I was right. They were probably mountain lion tracks.


I have heard people tell of seeing mountain lions in Franklin, and in Milford and Deposit a few years ago. One was reported along Cannonsville Reservoir several times.


Do cougars or panthers live in New York State today? According the DEC in Stamford, "No." They have no documented proof, so they deny their existence.


Rumors around Prattsville provide a reasonable explanation. Some lady had one as a pet, and it escaped. Well, maybe. No one knows for sure.


Everyone has seen these big cats on television, in books and the movies. Seasoned hunters claim to have seen them. So, do they exist?


I saw some tracks, and I'm convinced. There is a lot of rugged country in the Adirondacks and Catskills.


There are many places for them to hide. If there is abundant food away from civilization, there is no need for these cats to be around houses and farms, unless they are hungry.


Maybe some day we'll have some real proof, but until then, all we can do is wonder.



What's happening?
nimrod
12:24:34 PM
10/02/02

Mountain Lions are here in New York. If you asked anyone 10 years ago about Moose in New York they would of said - Your Nuts. Cars have been whacking them all summer long ad the DEC officers have been putting them down. Mountain Lions are here and its going to take a crazed one like that baby eating bear in the catskills to confirm it.
nimrod
12:29:59 PM
10/02/02

Wow, after reading this thread I feel like I'm up to my neck in #&%!$
Indiana John
12:31:56 PM
10/02/02

You rang?
shit
1:00:45 PM
10/02/02

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