Quallofil vs. Hollofil

“I already checked out the old sleeping bag threads, but nothing I could find answered my question- What's the difference between Qualofill and Holofill, and which is better? I need a cold weather bag, in the zero degree range, and even though I read a lot of posts from people who say down is the way to go, I just don't have that kind of cash. Thanks.”

“Corporal nasty- i checked out several gear sites today and looked at the colseouts they had and found some great deals on 0 degree bags.

check rei.com and their outlet
www.ems.com---this weekend they are having 20%off any item
blue ridge mountain sports
basspro-shops.com
campmore
sierra trading post
sun and ski sports

good luck”

“Thanks, bbinkley- I'm heading out to Campmor this weekend actually. It feels like christmas time already.”

“Quallofill has 4 holes inside the fibers shaped like a cross instead of one big one like in Hollofill. It is also treated with a slickening agent so the fibers don't bind together resulting in better compression, better downlike feel and supposedly longer life and slightly lighter weight. I have a Quallofill summer bag that's made by Slumberjack and it's 16 years old. It has lost some loft, but not a lot and is still good. I also have an expedition parka insulated with it and it's very warm and has held up well. Down will still last longer, but Quallofill isn't too bad if it's constructed right. The fibers must be enveloped in scrim before they are sewn into the bag. The exception is if the bag is offset quilted.”

“I had a buddy whose (ex) wife was worried about him and bought him a zero degree bag from K-mart for $35-40. He was pleased she thought of him, but dissappointed she bought it there. When it was all said and done, that bag worked great for him. It wasn't but a few ounces heavier than my EMS zero degree lite loft bag. Just an observation.”

“Thanks Richb, I think you just sold your first Quallofill sleeping bag- Pick up your commission at Campmor in Jersey anytime after this Sunday. That's exactly the info I was looking for. Uphill, I know exactly what you're talking about- Sometimes cheaper doesn't always mean less quality, even in extreme cases like that. I don't want to take any chances though, I'm trying to weed out all my "cheap" gear without spending too much money, if you know what I mean.”

“I don't know if this will help but I have always used and I love Slumberjack sleeping bags!

Go check out there website.

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“Looks like Quallofil has been upgraded since I bought my bag and parka years ago. Check this out.”

“Leave it up to the good people at Du Pont!

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“So richb I want a 10 or zero degree qualofill and <2.5lbs. What your pick.”

“Well if you let weight become a issue then go for it!

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“Can you imagine what hiking would be like without nylon that Dupont discovered. We would still be using canvas.”

“Bear, I'm not sure you'll find a bag that light in that temperature range in any synthetic. In a high end down bag maybe, but then they're lots more money. My old Slumberjack Quallofil 30 degree bag weighs almost 3 pounds. Try the gearfinder function at Backpacker.com and see what they can come up with.”

“Thanks rich”

“Get a down bag dude.”

“Yah. I don't know if 25% more warmth means jack #&%!$ when your bag is 30 degrees.”

“Hey Corporal Nasty - your message implies that you may be going to Campmor on Sunday.. Don't. They'll be closed. Bergen County has a stupid law that says major businesses can't be open on Sunday, and they'll be closed. If you go on Saturday, let me know at what time. I may meet you up there.”

“Quallofil is spelled with a "q". duhhh.

Artex is right - Bergen county still has blue laws.

jerber - my old quallofil zero degree bag weighed close to 7 pounds and took up half my pack. I'm not even sure if there are any down bags that light in that temp range.”

“What the hell? This ain't the south! That's the whole reason I left the south! Okay, that's it, Jersey is officially part of the south in my mind. Thanks for the info, Artex, gotta do some rearranging of plans now, but I guess I'll be heading there on Saturday after work. I'll get back to you on a time.”

“Sounds good my man. Just don't let me buy nothing. yeah, right.”

“Okay, so I take it you'll be arriving on a handtruck, in a strait jacket, wearing a half mask ala Hannibal Lecter? My momma always told me not to stand in front of a charging bull.”

“That's actually not a bad idea. I have better self-control these days, but Campmor is my weak spot. Just FYI, I have to hang around and wait for the cable guy between 11a-2p, which means I should be able to meet you up there any time after 7p.”

“I don't use down either, mostly from fear of dampness. I have an old (1987) Slumberjack 20°F bag with the old 4 hole Quallofill and a Slumberjack -30°F bag with the new 7 hole Quallofill. Both bags are completely satisfacory no-bells and whistles gear and I recommend Slumberjack products from long experience.

In my opinion, although many consider it outdated, Quallofill is still the most compressible and comfortable synthetic and you just can't beat the price. Polarguard, Polarguard HV and 3D offer the advantage of not spilling through a tear in your bag because they are continuous filament. My bags have duct tape patches and I've never had a problem - not even in the washing machine.”

“Thanks again everyone, looks like I'll be taking a long look at the Slumberjack Quallofills.”

“Tanks”

“Thanks again everyone, I got myself a Slumberjack Blue Thunder 0 degree Quallofill bag yesterday, $70. A friend of mine went with me, and wanted to pick up a polarguard bag- Same temp rating, same weight (more or less) a hundred bucks more. He ended up going with the same bag as I got- the only real difference between the two was that the polarguard compressed better, leaving you with more room in your pack. It wasn't a hundred bucks worth of room anyway, if you ask me.”

“Sounds like a good buy. Let us know how it works out for the winter season.”

“I got a Qualofill 7 sleeping bag from AJUNGILAK. And I didn't know at wich temperature it resists. Can somebody help me ?
Thanks.”

“measure the height of the loft - 5 to 6 inches is probably 0 deg F, 2-3 inches is probably 20 deg F”